MT-AL: Rob Quist (D) vs. Greg Gianforte (R) vs. Mark Wicks (L), May 25
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« Reply #425 on: April 06, 2017, 05:34:32 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Since we already have 19 more pages of analysis on this race than the DCCC apparently does, perhaps we should shoot them an email suggesting we collectively take over as strategy chair for this election.
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« Reply #426 on: April 06, 2017, 05:36:23 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

That the Democrats aren't wasting money on a race where they're down 12 points?
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« Reply #427 on: April 06, 2017, 05:38:23 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

What the naso...?
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« Reply #428 on: April 06, 2017, 05:40:05 PM »

but pelosi is the worst dem leader because muh republican tv ads.
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« Reply #429 on: April 06, 2017, 05:41:07 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

This is ridiculous.
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« Reply #430 on: April 06, 2017, 05:41:52 PM »

Well, there's plenty of evidence that the establishment hates progressives. David Brock's Shareblue is still bashing Bernie on a regular basis, and Hillary hacks like Whitehouse are spouting their batsh**t crazy conspiracy theories.

My comment really had nothing to do with the validity of your statement. It was just that you brought it up in the first place. It's the same reason you had that "but Hillary" label in 2016. Your commentary is often blatantly fixated on a single subject, and you are largely oblivious to that (or don't care either way). If I had to guess, the overall focus of your political thoughts is around the impure nature of the politicians that represent the views closest to your own - aka Democrats. Not that you have any obligation to focus on anything in particular, but you're practically like the IID of a police department. Your entire focus is inwards.

The party had a choice last year between someone who appealed to progressives and would have beaten Trump or someone who seemed designed to piss people like me off and lost to Trump. Trump had a worse favorable rating than Goldwater. He was not a strong candidate. So how's the establishment respond? David Brock is still running his crazy anti Bernie propaganda. Prominent Democrats are spouting off insane Russian conspiracy theories, and Tom Perez was installed at the last minute as DNC chair. As low of an opinion that I had of the Democratic party, I thought they'd have gotten a bit more of a clue from losing to Donald J Trump than they did. One can oppose both Trump and the idiots who promoted Trump because they thought their terrible candidate could easily beat him.
Ugh, do we really have to have this argument AGAIN?
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« Reply #431 on: April 06, 2017, 05:56:45 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
#JustDemocraticPartyThings
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« Reply #432 on: April 06, 2017, 05:59:04 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

That the Democrats aren't wasting money on a race where they're down 12 points?

It's Gravis.
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« Reply #433 on: April 06, 2017, 06:50:47 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

That the Democrats aren't wasting money on a race where they're down 12 points?
That's no reason to discredit it.  Many people think of Gallup as a good and reliable polling firm, and 538 gave them both the same rating (B-).
It's Gravis.
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« Reply #434 on: April 06, 2017, 06:53:37 PM »



I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Stuff like this is probably the third or fourth biggest reason for why my avatar is orange.
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« Reply #435 on: April 06, 2017, 07:11:23 PM »

I've never seen a national party organization as lazy and incompetent as the Democrats right now. What an awful state of affairs they're in.
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« Reply #436 on: April 06, 2017, 07:19:11 PM »

I feel like WV-03 could be winnable if Jenkins runs for Senate and Tomblin runs, also ME-02 with someone like Troy Jackson, IA-01, SD-AL etc. But with the party mentality they won't even be seriously contested.
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« Reply #437 on: April 06, 2017, 07:54:48 PM »

Gravis polled the race, and has it at Gianforte +12:

Gianforte 50%
Quist 38%
Wicks 3%
Breck 2%
Uncertain 7%
http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-montana-polling-3/
1,222 Voters; MoE +-2.9;  Poll Dates ? - It was released today.


Breck is apparently the Green Party candidate.  Did we miss him getting ballot access, or is Gravis polling someone not on the ballot?

There hasn't been any decision yet. It probably won't take much longer to settle this, though. As for the poll itself... thank God finally someone decided to poll this race. The GCS polls were nice, but too D-friendly. I'm also not really buying the results of this poll, honestly. I really don't see Gianforte winning by double digits. Trump's approval numbers look a bit too high, while Bullock's seem a bit too low. Montana is one of the few states where Democratic strength is often underestimated by the polls.
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« Reply #438 on: April 06, 2017, 08:49:14 PM »

Gravis polled the race, and has it at Gianforte +12:

Gianforte 50%
Quist 38%
Wicks 3%
Breck 2%
Uncertain 7%
http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-montana-polling-3/
1,222 Voters; MoE +-2.9;  Poll Dates ? - It was released today.


Breck is apparently the Green Party candidate.  Did we miss him getting ballot access, or is Gravis polling someone not on the ballot?

There hasn't been any decision yet. It probably won't take much longer to settle this, though. As for the poll itself... thank God finally someone decided to poll this race. The GCS polls were nice, but too D-friendly. I'm also not really buying the results of this poll, honestly. I really don't see Gianforte winning by double digits. Trump's approval numbers look a bit too high, while Bullock's seem a bit too low. Montana is one of the few states where Democratic strength is often underestimated by the polls.
I mean it's Gravis so I wouldn't take them too seriously, especially in a state with polling difficulty as great as Montana has.
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« Reply #439 on: April 06, 2017, 09:30:01 PM »

I'd be surprised if Wicks only got 3%. Libertarian protest votes tend to do very well in Montana.
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« Reply #440 on: April 06, 2017, 11:51:27 PM »

A 12-point gap in a subpar pollster over a month before the election shouldn't be insurmountable.
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« Reply #441 on: April 07, 2017, 12:43:47 AM »

A 12-point gap in a subpar pollster over a month before the election shouldn't be insurmountable.

Yeah, we aren't going to see real polls for a while out here.
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« Reply #442 on: April 08, 2017, 08:59:46 AM »

All-mail special election might be back on the table:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2017-04-07/governor-uses-veto-pen-to-push-mail-only-voting

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« Reply #443 on: April 08, 2017, 11:08:03 AM »

All-mail special election might be back on the table:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2017-04-07/governor-uses-veto-pen-to-push-mail-only-voting

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This is why Steve Bullock is the man.
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« Reply #444 on: April 08, 2017, 11:32:08 AM »

All-mail special election might be back on the table:

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/montana/articles/2017-04-07/governor-uses-veto-pen-to-push-mail-only-voting

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This is why Steve Bullock is the man.

This like, doesn't even come close to the most awesome Montana Democratic Governor Veto Hijinks.
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« Reply #445 on: April 08, 2017, 11:51:54 AM »


Man, quit making me so nostalgic. Look what Hillary cost us Cry
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« Reply #446 on: April 08, 2017, 04:16:07 PM »

release the sanders:

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« Reply #447 on: April 08, 2017, 04:21:24 PM »

hillary supporters really are the sorest primary election winners/general election losers.
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« Reply #448 on: April 08, 2017, 04:24:28 PM »

Bernie Sanders has a high favorability rating. At worst, he would be a net neutral to the Quist campaign.
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« Reply #449 on: April 08, 2017, 04:28:10 PM »

3) Endorsing and campaigning for Hillary Clinton. It made him look like a huge hypocrite, since his whole campaign was railing against her, now he supports her?

Why? Bernie could have legitimate issues with her and make a case against her in the context of him vs her, but against Trump, it's easy to see why she is still the better pick from the perspective of Democrats/many others.

imo, Trump has only continued to bolster that view since becoming president.
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