Most left-wing liberal religion

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Are there any religions out there that DON'T find something wrong with homosexuals?

Most of them actually. Most also have a problem with homosexual sex though.

In my mind, they are one and the same. I don't ask that they engage it necessarily, but do not damn anybody who does engage in it to hell or other pleasent holiday spots.

If that's the conclusion of the religion based on the religious text then what is their to disagree with? Seriously.

[afleitch]

I would seperate left wing and liberal here. Catholicism isn't liberal, but it is left wing when it comes to economics, wealth distribution and pacifism.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

In my mind, they are one and the same.

In practice it's often turned out like that. But it doesn't seem to have been the case orginally; homosexuality is not mentioned once in the Bible.
Intererestingly, while homosexual sex is mentioned a handful of times, it's not singled out for special treatment; even Leviticus (which contains some very... er... "unusual"... laws that probably made perfect sense for a Nomadic society, but not an urbanised one. There's a lot of stuff about mildew) where it's part of a long list of proscribed sexual activities.
Even the recommend punishment (death) isn't especially draconian for Leviticus; having sex with the wife of your neighbour is also apparently punishable by death.

Bearing all that in mind (and the fact that there's a bit of a debate over how relavent the Old Testament should be for Christians anyway, certainly the other laws in Leviticus (IMO the worst written and dullest part of the Bible) aren't followed by Christians) there's been far, far too much attention on homosexuality by certain churches.

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Fair point, but on what authority do they damn homosexuals to hell? It's not in the Bible (which is usually very clear about what things get you sent down their) and I don't think that preachers have the authority to declare what is and isn't a hell-worthy offense.

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Read the book of Romans sometime Al. It does specifically condemn homosexual acts.

[??????????]

Read the book of Romans sometime Al. It does specifically condemn homosexual acts.

The book of Romans is believed to have been written by Paul. Paul said a lot of things that were anti-woman also.

Doesn't matter who wrote it. It was still inspired by God.

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Read the book of Romans sometime Al. It does specifically condemn homosexual acts.

The book of Romans is believed to have been written by Paul. Paul said a lot of things that were anti-woman also.

Doesn't matter who wrote it. It was still inspired by God.

yeah, right

I wouldn't expect an atheist like you to understand that. Because of course you liberals "always know what's right for us".

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Read the book of Romans sometime Al. It does specifically condemn homosexual acts.

...as part of one of his [Paul's] general rants about sexual immorality. Most of what he said on that subject is ignored by most churches (not to say that should be the case, but to say that some consistency on this subject would be helpful) even the ones he was writing to.
He seems to have based his views on sexulity on Leviticus, btw.

[A18]

When you say 'liberals', does that include Jesus?

He's talking about liberals as in statist kooks, not classical liberals like Jesus and Thomas Jefferson.

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btw Catholics and Protestants don't even have the same Bible, so which one is 'inspired by God'?

The so called 'authority' of the Bible historically came from the Catholic Church. If this authority is not open to debate why do Protestants reject the Catholic Bible?

Most Catholics and Protestants use the King James Version of the bible. Pretty much the best one of the ones out there. Any respectable person won't use that New American nonsense.

Read the book of Romans sometime Al. It does specifically condemn homosexual acts.

...as part of one of his [Paul's] general rants about sexual immorality. Most of what he said on that subject is ignored by most churches (not to say that should be the case, but to say that some consistency on this subject would be helpful) even the ones he was writing to.
He seems to have based his views on sexulity on Leviticus, btw.

No part of the bible should really be 'ignored' per se, as it is all relevant to Christianity. Of course the Old Testament rules don't apply to Christians as they were "nailed to the cross" but to get the whole picture of what the bible means you must take into account every aspect of the writing.

[A18]

And that has what to do with anything?

[KillerPollo]

And that has what to do with anything?

Gayism.

[Josh/Devilman88]

The Quakers could be high up that list.

I know they tend to be on foreign policy issues & I think economic issues, but Aren't the Quakers really socially conservative??

No Qyajers are very liberal on socially views...