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« Reply #725 on: March 12, 2017, 01:37:30 am »


I forgot to put skip.

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ETA: disliking the sanders movement and not considering corporations and rich people evil doesn't magically make you a part of the third-way

Not what the campaign was about, and since you don't realise that you're probably third-way.

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Those were meant to be two different things, though sanders did focus too much on A. the rich being terrible and B. pandering to lower-middle class(not poor), and not enough on the impovrished. It says something about socialists(at least the ones I've seen on this site) that they seem to have no complaints about such a campaign.

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Sanders campaign was in many cases flawed, not speaking to working class voters, in Baltimore and rural WV, and rather having hustings in stadiums that were filled with college children. This is a very valid criticism to make

Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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« Reply #726 on: March 12, 2017, 02:11:48 am »


Off topic, but why do you suddenly have my old avatar?

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« Reply #727 on: March 12, 2017, 02:12:49 am »


Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

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« Reply #728 on: March 12, 2017, 02:27:50 am »


Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWyOTvLg04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMr-8jpymQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMCymLO-GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaFV2N1KFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJ7f-3XGB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W103Gs0MP1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL1bL2A5rw

The reasons to why he mentioned billionares, are because the gross poverty that results in the country, is because of massive income inequality, and reinforced through the massive wealth the billlionares reciveve, get and keep.
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« Reply #729 on: March 12, 2017, 02:51:19 am »

Resetting this, for Intell, I'd simply say non-SJW socialist
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« Reply #730 on: March 12, 2017, 02:54:09 am »

Evangelical.
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« Reply #731 on: March 12, 2017, 03:50:08 am »


Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

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And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWyOTvLg04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMr-8jpymQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMCymLO-GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaFV2N1KFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJ7f-3XGB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W103Gs0MP1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL1bL2A5rw

The reasons to why he mentioned billionares, are because the gross poverty that results in the country, is because of massive income inequality, and reinforced through the massive wealth the billlionares reciveve, get and keep.

Three of these were before the campaign even started. He did talk about poverty a bit, but his main focus was the lower middle class. His biggest policies of the campaign were free collage and student debt(appeals to middle and lower middle class collage educated millennials), Universal Healthcare(which does help the poor a lot, but the poor are more focused on having food and paying the rent because they're in that bad of a situation; the people who are strongly interested in it are more middle-class people who have the money to pay for healthcare and thus see it being really overly expensive and flawed), and the minimum wage(which actually does help poor people who can get a job, but he fails to mention unemployment). Too much of the campaign is framed as a movement, a group united by ideology, and not enough about simply helping people. Why do we have to add a bunch of class conflict to the mix?

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« Reply #732 on: March 12, 2017, 05:16:28 am »
« Edited: March 12, 2017, 05:31:39 am by Intell »


Sanders did focus on the interests of the poor, and mentioned poverty, inequaity, and lack of jobs in his campaign, to say otherwise is disingenuous.

SKIP

And when he did, it was in the context of evil billionaires. The "lack of jobs" was "the billionaires outsourcing them", the mention of inequality was "these billionaires are too rich", and the mentions of poverty seemed to be a part of the "why billionaires are evil" presentation.

BTW I don't think I've actually seen one of you actually criticize sanders lack of focus on the truly poor.

-skip-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWyOTvLg04

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIMr-8jpymQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxMCymLO-GU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFaFV2N1KFM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJ7f-3XGB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W103Gs0MP1E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBL1bL2A5rw

The reasons to why he mentioned billionares, are because the gross poverty that results in the country, is because of massive income inequality, and reinforced through the massive wealth the billlionares reciveve, get and keep.

Three of these were before the campaign even started. He did talk about poverty a bit, but his main focus was the lower middle class. His biggest policies of the campaign were free collage and student debt(appeals to middle and lower middle class collage educated millennials), Universal Healthcare(which does help the poor a lot, but the poor are more focused on having food and paying the rent because they're in that bad of a situation; the people who are strongly interested in it are more middle-class people who have the money to pay for healthcare and thus see it being really overly expensive and flawed), and the minimum wage(which actually does help poor people who can get a job, but he fails to mention unemployment). Too much of the campaign is framed as a movement, a group united by ideology, and not enough about simply helping people. Why do we have to add a bunch of class conflict to the mix?

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Because society is driven by class conflicts, especially the rich, with extreme levels of wealth, being partly to blame, as a result of the current economic system, as inequality of the distrbution of wealth.

"free collage and student debt"- This helps the working class a lot, by being allowed acess to higher education and results in increased social mobility.

 "Universal Healthcare"- Again helps the poor, and middle class people, but also the poor not covered by Medicaid, and don't get proper funding needed from medicaid.

"Jobs"- I love how you said jobs, and before stated, jobs being outsourced to other countries (as a result of rich people and the economic system to benefit them.), while ignoring it before.

3 of it was before the campaign started, but it is there to show his consisten platform.

He's movement is driven by ideology, but an ideology aimed at helping the lives of poor and working class people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn_2Ca6_TKs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S49aeJsTJP4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJXC_FlNNH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTbmsnEguUo

But ok.

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« Reply #733 on: March 12, 2017, 08:28:40 am »

L.D. Smith is a populist (sane, normal, etc.)
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« Reply #734 on: March 12, 2017, 08:29:35 am »

Populist Democrat
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« Reply #735 on: March 12, 2017, 12:21:26 pm »

Socialist
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« Reply #736 on: March 12, 2017, 01:59:54 pm »


You are neither typical nor a reader.

Santander: Right-populist/nationalist who likes to troll.
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« Reply #737 on: March 12, 2017, 02:53:27 pm »

Right Leaning Moderate Hero
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« Reply #738 on: March 12, 2017, 03:10:27 pm »

Libertarian leaning moderate hero (only libertarian leaning by a negligible amount, however, which can be ascribed to human decency and indifference to capitalism)
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« Reply #739 on: March 12, 2017, 03:40:01 pm »

A rare socially moderate Dem who also isn't hyper-left wing on economics
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« Reply #740 on: March 20, 2017, 01:42:06 am »

Soft religious right type conservative.
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« Reply #741 on: March 20, 2017, 01:48:21 am »

standard lefty.
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« Reply #742 on: March 20, 2017, 07:43:17 am »

Less-standard lefty.
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« Reply #743 on: March 20, 2017, 08:11:41 am »

Centrist
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« Reply #744 on: March 20, 2017, 10:35:26 am »

Social liberal, as in both somebody who's liberal on "social issues" and a liberal that takes a center-left view on economics without being outright socialist.
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« Reply #745 on: March 20, 2017, 10:59:51 am »

Hawkish center-right liberal. While Barry Goldwater is an obvious comparison, but others might be William F. Buckley, Rudy Giuliani, Joseph Lieberman, or Tom Ridge (broad array, but a few uniting characteristics).
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« Reply #746 on: March 20, 2017, 11:34:38 am »

Non-liberal (but not necessary "illiberal") conservative, but maybe not as much so as he makes himself out to be.
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« Reply #747 on: March 20, 2017, 11:54:58 am »

Far-left
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« Reply #748 on: March 20, 2017, 11:57:38 am »


Aww, thank you! Love you too.

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« Reply #749 on: March 20, 2017, 12:35:35 pm »

Big-league conservative
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