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  Should we abolish the popular vote? (search mode)
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Question: a Phillip-esque type poll
#1
yes
 
#2
no
 
#3
possibly, let's hear a good argument for it M&C...
 
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A18
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« on: July 21, 2005, 11:15:37 PM »

The benefit of the electoral college is that the president-elect must seek out widespread support, and not just stack up large majorities in certain geographical segments of the country.
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A18
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 11:53:29 AM »

'Unequitable' is irrelevant. Notice our Constitution is established for all the people, not just the majority, and reserves most powers to the states.

The benefit of the electoral college is that the president-elect must seek out widespread support, and not just stack up large majorities in certain geographical segments of the country.

But what makes Mike Smith's vote more important if he lives in York, Pennsylvania, than if he lives in Queens?
The same argument could be used to declare the Senate an archaic institution, yet it remains, as it represents a principle that is a cornerstone of the federal system.
Well it's both. Both archaic and a cornerstone of the (archaic) federal system. It's also got the great advantage of being ungerrymanderable by state legislatures.

Federal system archaic? Uh, no.
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A18
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 03:10:20 PM »

Yes, there is. You can not protect the rights of the states without a Senate.

People have the right to self-rule. That means that there must be choices between geographic areas in order to preserve meaningful liberty of any kind or substance.

There is no greater American tradition than the federalist tradition. It is because we have abandoned so much of that tradition that America exited the last century less free than when it entered.
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