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« on: January 02, 2017, 11:28:04 AM »

I think Minnesota might vote to the right of Florida next time.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2017, 11:32:57 AM »

New Hampshire could vote to the right of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2017, 11:45:41 AM »

New Hampshire could vote to the right of Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

If the Democrats nominate a male, yes. But even then I doubt it will be to the right of any of the states you mentioned.

Minnesota and Maine are the only ones that come to my mind. I could definitely see Maine voting to the right of FL, maybe MN as well, though that one is more tricky.  

I think all of theNew Englnd states will trend left in 2020, with the possible exception of Massachusetts and Connecticut.
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2017, 12:02:45 PM »

If Dems get Detroit turnout back up but also nominate an elitist candidate who appeals to lakefront liberals, I could easily see Minnesota and Maine voting to the right of Michigan. There are still plenty of white working-class people to offend there. Maybe New Hampshire as well.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2017, 01:34:04 PM »

If Trump retires, Minnesota will vote to the right of at least one Trump state.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2017, 01:40:55 PM »

I could see Minnesota and New Hampshire voting to the right of Michigan.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2017, 01:42:11 PM »

...The question is whether some of those states that went clearly for Trump (like Ohio and Iowa) will revert to their old ways in 2020 while some states like Minnesota and New Hampshire move little in a Democratic win of the Presidency.

Or -- whether Trump will win re-election 'bigly', probably with the aid of electoral fraud.   
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2017, 11:04:27 PM »

Minnesota and New Hampshire vote to the right of Florida and NC.
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2017, 01:37:37 AM »

If Trump becomes extremely unpopular in 2020, I get the feeling Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, maybe Iowa, and maybe even Ohio could vote to the left of New Hampshire.

Depending on how high the Dems can drive up black turnout in 2020, Michigan could vote to the left of Minnesota, New Hampshire, Colorado, and maybe Virginia.
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« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2020, 04:15:14 PM »

MN right off FL 10.5% difference lol
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2020, 04:20:32 PM »

wow these takes didn't age well.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2020, 04:49:26 PM »

Nevada may vote right of Michigan but that is about the only one and even that I am not sure about.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2020, 05:02:33 PM »

Were Nevada, Illinois, and New York the only states that met this description?
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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2020, 05:28:01 PM »

Nevada may vote right of Michigan but that is about the only one and even that I am not sure about.
nah..once after full count is finished, Biden's lead in Nevada is likely to be 4+ pts.
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« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2020, 09:21:36 PM »

Were Nevada, Illinois, and New York the only states that met this description?

How would Illinois and New York fit the description
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« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2020, 09:46:28 PM »

Kinda funny how popular the Minnesota is going red meme was.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2020, 10:59:52 PM »

Thread aged like milk, holy crap.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2020, 11:29:52 PM »

Kinda funny how popular the Minnesota is going red meme was.

Minnesota's result is really bizarre in general. Biden outperformed polls by 3 points (RCP), while underperforming polls in WI and IA by a whopping 6 points, OH by over 7 points, and MI by 1.5 points. Sentiment in rural Minnesota was that Trump was good for business and the economy, and that the George Floyd protests went too far and "defunding the police" was dangerous.

Just a guess until I have more data to look at: MSP suburbs are less religious and more progressive in outlook than those in Wisconsin, and Iowa didn't have the kind of suburban base to support a Biden resurgence. But I really, really want to know what pollsters were doing that resulted in Biden overperforming polls by 3 points, while underperforming two similar states by 6 points.
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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2020, 11:36:15 PM »

Perhaps education played a role in MN. MN is more educated than WI or MI.

Anyway, a good if still incorrect answer was NV, but we really had no way of knowing the factors involved in that.

The correct answer is surely HI. In an election that seemed so abnormal on the surface, HI's insignificant pro-incumbent swing is just so normal to have happened.

NY and IL are red mirage states. That's why nobody's called competitive congressional races in the former.
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« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2020, 12:52:29 AM »

Kinda funny how popular the Minnesota is going red meme was.
You have to understand that it was generally viewed as the entire Midwest - barring IL - becoming a lot more favorable to Republicans.
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2020, 10:25:51 AM »

Only possibility is Nevada right of Michigan, but even that looks unlikely.
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