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« on: January 02, 2017, 01:09:51 PM »

My prediction is the Paksitan People's Party will never escape it's increased regionalisation in Sindh. Say what you like about Khan, the PTI seems to be doing a better job at campaigning on the ground. If PPP don't return in Punjab next election, I think they might be starting to be eclipsed.
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2017, 06:35:41 PM »

Communist Party of Cuba - it might still exist, but I seriously can't see it surviving the death of the Castro brothers and normalization of relations with the US in its current form.

ZANU–PF - I mean, what will it be without Mugabe come a few years from now (assuming he is not actually immortal)?

African National Congress - it'll be in a strong position for a while, but it seems very bloated and likely to splinter over the coming decades.
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2017, 06:36:26 PM »

The Dutch CDA?
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2017, 07:07:58 PM »


More likely that PvDA?
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2017, 08:00:45 AM »


If the past two elections are an indication, yeah.
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2017, 08:04:23 AM »

Nah they'll be reduced to eight seats but then be polling at thirty eight within six months of the formation of a new government that they're not part of.
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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2017, 10:14:41 AM »

Pasok of Greece obviously.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2017, 11:42:09 AM »

Roses are seriously fadding, aren't they?

Unless hands are not able to handle thorns anymore...
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2017, 02:41:19 PM »

PSOE?
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2017, 03:13:11 PM »

The Israeli Labour party seems to be in a very serious danger.
And Zuma's ANC in South Africa seems like it might collapse in the distant future.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2017, 10:34:27 PM »

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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2017, 10:44:48 PM »

Not PRI.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2017, 12:17:47 AM »


No. Five years of FG/Lab government by the metropolitan middle classes for the metropolitan middle classes (and no-one else) saved them. Labour are much more likely long-term casualties.
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2017, 02:06:38 AM »

The Vorarlberg SPÖ (8%).
The Tyrol SPÖ (12%)
The Salzburg SPÖ (12%, down from 45% in 2004)
The Upper Austria SPÖ (18%)

The Vienna ÖVP (8%)
The Carinthia ÖVP (14%)
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2017, 08:31:41 AM »

Well, if we're looking at regional branches then the SPD is all but dead in plenty of places across Germany. Moreover not even beloved political genius Martin Schulz may be able to save it at the federal level.

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« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2017, 02:35:16 PM »

Yes.
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2017, 02:38:31 PM »

They have a very elderly support base right? Because that's what to look for if we're looking for 'possible RIP' rather than 'LOL rollercoaster of a party' or even 'structural decline but still deffo relevant' or whatever.
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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2017, 07:28:59 PM »

They have a very elderly support base right? Because that's what to look for if we're looking for 'possible RIP' rather than 'LOL rollercoaster of a party' or even 'structural decline but still deffo relevant' or whatever.
One could argue that going from 41 seats and #1 to 21 seats and #4 and, two years later, to 13 seats and #5 does fit the "RIP" timeline, but you're right.

Still, if one keeps in mind just how powerful the party used to be not only in terms of electoral support but also as the pivotal party within the Dutch party system, and if one assumes most CDA voters are, indeed, pretty old and often won't be there in 15 years, and if one takes into account that "still deffo relevant" nowadays even applies to parties with 2% support, such as the Animal Party and the SGP, I do think it is appropriate to bring up the CDA in this thread.
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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2017, 09:14:51 PM »

They have a very elderly support base right? Because that's what to look for if we're looking for 'possible RIP' rather than 'LOL rollercoaster of a party' or even 'structural decline but still deffo relevant' or whatever.
One could argue that going from 41 seats and #1 to 21 seats and #4 and, two years later, to 13 seats and #5 does fit the "RIP" timeline, but you're right.

Even more so when you consider that in the post-War era, the three predecessor parties would combined for > half the vote sometimes.
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« Reply #19 on: January 04, 2017, 11:14:40 PM »
« Edited: January 04, 2017, 11:17:29 PM by DavidB. »

They have a very elderly support base right? Because that's what to look for if we're looking for 'possible RIP' rather than 'LOL rollercoaster of a party' or even 'structural decline but still deffo relevant' or whatever.
One could argue that going from 41 seats and #1 to 21 seats and #4 and, two years later, to 13 seats and #5 does fit the "RIP" timeline, but you're right.
Even more so when you consider that in the post-War era, the three predecessor parties would combined for > half the vote sometimes.
They always had over half the vote before the war in all elections with universal suffrage, and in the post-War era in all elections until 1963 (except 1959). So yeah.
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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2017, 03:51:37 AM »

Old Labour -> New Labour -> Dead Labour (until they ditch Corbyn for someone competent)

Indian National Congress likely won't be back in power for a while, another 10 years at least.
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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2017, 08:14:34 AM »

Old Labour -> New Labour -> Dead Labour (until they ditch Corbyn for someone competent)

As the Fabian Society concluded recently, Labour is too weak to win government but too strong to die.

There was a load of (equally silly) talk in the mid-1990s about the Tories meeting the same fate as the Canadian PCs did in 1993, mostly from people who couldn't grasp that the the UK isn't Canada.
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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2017, 05:16:24 PM »

It probably was realistic to suggest 5 years ago that the Canadian Liberals were on a death spiral. Now look at them. So anything can happen.
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2017, 06:04:12 PM »

The Liberal Democratic Party of Moldova. It won 20.2% of the vote in 2014 but now is polling at...0.5%! Yikes. Shocked
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2017, 05:49:22 AM »

Scottish Labour comes to mind; although I'm sure that they'll recover at some point...

The Liberal Democratic Party of Moldova. It won 20.2% of the vote in 2014 but now is polling at...0.5%! Yikes. Shocked

Its only existed since 2007; hardly long enough to be a mighty party.  It seems to be one of those parties that are common in that part of the world: they form, quickly get into power (usually because they push the "we're not corrupt like the other parties!!!" thing; then when things don't change they collapse to nothing - other examples that come to mind are Res Publica and Pro Patria in Estonia; who both did the same thing and ended up merging together.  Moldova is politically rather odd though; when you could make a legitimate argument that the Communist Party are a centre-right party in a country you know that you are talking about a very odd nation.
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