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« Reply #225 on: February 19, 2018, 05:57:22 PM »

hold on we are checking the math
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« Reply #226 on: February 19, 2018, 06:10:08 PM »

Well this is an interesting result. The opportunist federalist cabal and their opposition both got what they wanted. Condolences to JGibson.
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« Reply #227 on: February 19, 2018, 06:11:52 PM »

Well, it is a good thing ReaganClinton20xx switched to Alliance this morning, if he takes office and resigns, Alliance gets to appoint the replacement. Therefore, feds will not have a majority regardless on if this is right or not.
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« Reply #228 on: February 19, 2018, 06:24:41 PM »

The constitution states that the leadership of the "effected party" gets to fill the vacancy, so there are two ways this can go:

1. If RC takes his seat, he does so as an Alliance member, so Alliance would be the effected party in the case of his subsequent resignation and Transit gets to pick the replacement.

2. RC doesn't take his seat, meaning that there is a vacant spot to which the people elected a listed Federalist. Yankee gets to pick the replacement.
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« Reply #229 on: February 19, 2018, 07:15:10 PM »

The math holds up when reducing to a quota of 10.9.
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« Reply #230 on: February 19, 2018, 07:25:20 PM »

Alrighty then.
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« Reply #231 on: February 19, 2018, 11:10:22 PM »

The constitution states that the leadership of the "effected party" gets to fill the vacancy, so there are two ways this can go:

1. If RC takes his seat, he does so as an Alliance member, so Alliance would be the effected party in the case of his subsequent resignation and Transit gets to pick the replacement.

2. RC doesn't take his seat, meaning that there is a vacant spot to which the people elected a listed Federalist. Yankee gets to pick the replacement.

Number 2 is less clear, when the person not swearing in is a member of a party that is different from the time of election. Is it the party at time of swearing in or time of election?

I think there is also a number 3, concession of victory in the Federal Electoral Act (so not in the constitution)
https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Federal_Electoral_Act#Section_12:_Concession_of_Victory

If someone elected concedes after certification but before the swearing in date, the seat goes to the next person with highest preferences.
Interested parties should look at the possible options with their legal advisors.
 
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« Reply #232 on: February 20, 2018, 01:04:16 PM »

President, Round 1:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 47 (43.12%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 32 (29.36%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 23 (21.10%)
WI: Not_Madigan/Peebs - 4 (3.67%)
Unconfirmed Write-Ins (1 each for Politicalmasta73/PiT (the Physicist), Peebs/HomestarSB9, and Bore (unable to accept)) - 3 total (2.75% total)

All three unconfirmed write-ins are eliminated. No second pref for any of them, so they're all exhausted.

Round 2:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 47 (44.34%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 32 (30.19%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 23 (21.70%)
WI: Not_Madigan/Peebs - 4 (3.77%)

Madigan is eliminated. Two of his votes go to Pericles, one each go to Fhtagn and Spiral.

Round 3:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 48 (45.28%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 34 (32.08%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 24 (22.64%)

Spiral is eliminated. 15 of his votes go to Pericles, seven go to Fhtagn, two are exhausted.

Round 4:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 55 (52.88%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 49 (47.12%)

Fhtagn has been re-elected to a second full term.
Small correction: Lumine/Siren should have one vote on the first round, as both wrote themselves in for lower preference. Also, I'm fairly certain the three "unconfirmed write-ins" are just exhausted automatically, as those voters in effect did not vote for any candidate.
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« Reply #233 on: February 20, 2018, 01:37:09 PM »

President, Round 1:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 47 (44.34%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 31 (29.25%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 23 (21.70%)
WI: Not_Madigan/Peebs - 3 (2.83%)
WI: LumineVonReuental/Siren - 1 (0.94%)
WI: Tmthforu94/Peebs - 1 (0.94%)

Lumine and Tmth are eliminated. The vote for Lumine goes to Pericles, the vote for Tmth goes to Madigan.

Round 2:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 47 (44.34%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 32 (30.19%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 23 (21.70%)
WI: Not_Madigan/Peebs - 4 (3.77%)

Madigan is eliminated. Two of his votes go to Pericles, one each go to Fhtagn and Spiral.

Round 3:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 48 (45.28%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 34 (32.08%)
Spiral/Adam Griffin - 24 (22.64%)

Spiral is eliminated. 15 of his votes go to Pericles, seven go to Fhtagn, two are exhausted.

Round 4:
Fhtagn/PiT (the Physicist) - 55 (52.88%)
Pericles/MikeWells12 - 49 (47.12%)

Fhtagn has been re-elected to a second full term.
Small correction: Lumine/Siren should have one vote on the first round, as both wrote themselves in for lower preference. Also, I'm fairly certain the three "unconfirmed write-ins" are just exhausted automatically, as those voters in effect did not vote for any candidate.
If that's the case, then Tmthforu94/Peebs also gets a vote in the first round, since I gave that ticket a first pref and Tmth gave it a second. Revised calculations in quote, if it matters.
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« Reply #234 on: February 20, 2018, 01:37:15 PM »
« Edited: February 20, 2018, 01:39:38 PM by People's Speaker North Carolina Yankee »

At-large is never a head to head contest. Never has been, never will be, even if for a fleeting moment it will be, until the final votes are cast the whole field is in flux. Then you find out who came up short on that last count, especially when transfers are accounted for and there is a lot of transfers, with a number of candidates below quota.

In some ways that is a better system in that when it works probably in an ideal world (or at least my ideal world where all the candidates have earned their own voters both inside and outside the party and my PMs basically just serve as reminders that the elections have started), more representative in that sense. I have never yet seen a result that didn't match the Popular vote in an At-Large House election. April 2017 was perhaps the best test ever of that.

Granted, as is always the case in Atlasia, you have the potential for a post election chaos to erase an election result in an instant through party changes and scandals. This is partly why June was so maddening because we won a massive landslide and then DFW got fidgety and bolted for for funsies.

But the election method works! Now if only we could get more then nine or 10 candidates (or go down to seven seats) Tongue

Also, while extremely unlikely, if I were to be given the chance to appoint a Fed, I probably look at Jimmy or Koopa first as newer people with similar views and backgrounds to RC (Assembly service etc).
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« Reply #235 on: April 07, 2018, 08:34:20 PM »

If there is a new Federal Electoral act that becomes law (a possibility) will the Department and the Census bureau prepare a communications plan to inform the citizens of the country of the changes so they are aware of the new law?
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« Reply #236 on: April 07, 2018, 09:53:04 PM »

If there is a new Federal Electoral act that becomes law (a possibility) will the Department and the Census bureau prepare a communications plan to inform the citizens of the country of the changes so they are aware of the new law?
I suppose I could, if it would set your mind at ease.
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« Reply #237 on: April 07, 2018, 10:14:06 PM »

It was a suggestion. Don't do it for me, I've tried to highlight the changes I've found. I'm informed enough.
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« Reply #238 on: April 19, 2018, 05:00:57 PM »
« Edited: April 19, 2018, 05:23:04 PM by Peebs »

WARNING! Do not vote until 0:00! You will have 72 hours in which to vote - there's no rush!


REPUBLIC OF ATLASIA - In Dave We Trust
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READ THIS FIRST

1. The election will last 72 hours, starting at 0:00 Friday April 20 and ending 0:00 Monday April 23.

2. You are eligible to vote in this election if you have made 10 posts on the Atlas Forum in the past 8 weeks, have registered as a voter with the Registrar General more than 7 days before the start of the election, and have not had your voting rights stripped as a result of deregistration or a court verdict.

3. You must vote by ranking your choices in the order of your preference: 1 for your first preference, 2 for your second preference, and so on. You may write in preferences for candidates not on the ballot. If you only wish to preference one candidate, marking an X next to the candidate's name or simply writing the candidate's name is sufficient, provided that you do not wish your vote to transfer to other candidates.

4. If you do not wish to vote for any candidate on the ballot nor to write in a candidate, you may vote for None of the Above as your first preference. All candidates ranked under None of the Above will not receive those preferences during the counting of the votes.

5. You are permitted, but not advised, to edit your ballot within 20 minutes of posting it within this thread. Deleting your ballot at any time or editing it after 20 minutes will result in the invalidation of your vote.

6. Please check over your ballot thoroughly before you click "Post". You have no excuse for casting a ballot which contains errors or does not accurately reflect your preferences. Failure to correct errors in your ballot may result in its disqualification. While the alphabetically-ordered ballot below is provided for your convenience should you wish to quote this post, you may order the candidates on your ballot however you would like.



HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - NINE SEATS



[  ] dfwlibertylover of Texas
Independent



[  ] Jimmy7812 of Pennsylvania
Alliance Party



[  ] jk2020 (Sestak) of California
Mario Party



[  ] Leinad of Michigan
Federalist Party



[  ] NeverAgain of Virginia
Progressive Union Party



[  ] Ninja0428 of Scotland
Progressive Union Party



[  ] North Carolina Yankee of North Carolina
Federalist Party



[  ] Peebs of North Carolina
Peace Party



[  ] politicalmasta73 of Maine
Peace Party



[  ] RFayette of California
Federalist Party



[  ] weatherboy1102 of South Carolina
Progrssive Union Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
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[  ] None of the above

Note to Sestak: See? That was no reason to ree.
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« Reply #239 on: April 19, 2018, 05:16:22 PM »

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Objection. The census list states that I am registered as "Mario Party", and has for some time. Given that April Fools' Day was over two weeks ago, I was under the impression that the census was accurate and up to date regarding my registration. If, as you seem to be claiming, it is not, then I hold that I should be allowed additional time to change my registration for the ballot. I am willing to litigate if necessary.
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« Reply #240 on: April 19, 2018, 05:17:57 PM »

Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.

Objection. The census list states that I am registered as "Mario Party", and has for some time. Given that April Fools' Day was over two weeks ago, I was under the impression that the census was accurate and up to date regarding my registration. If, as you seem to be claiming, it is not, then I hold that I should be allowed additional time to change my registration for the ballot. I am willing to litigate if necessary.
Well, yeah, you can officially change it back within the next couple hours.
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« Reply #241 on: April 22, 2018, 08:07:44 AM »

Could someone clarify the IRV rules for me? Specifically, what happens in a two-person race if there is a tie on the first ballot?
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« Reply #242 on: April 22, 2018, 08:09:40 AM »

Could someone clarify the IRV rules for me? Specifically, what happens in a two-person race if there is a tie on the first ballot?
I think it depends on the region. Federally, they have a runoff, and if that ends in a tie as well, they split the term. In Lincoln, they just split the term. Not sure for the South and Fremont, though.
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« Reply #243 on: April 22, 2018, 10:55:55 PM »

Just to clarify, is the surplus threshold the ceiling of votes over 9 or exactly votes over 9?
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« Reply #244 on: April 23, 2018, 12:02:32 AM »

Just to clarify, is the surplus threshold the ceiling of votes over 9 or exactly votes over 9?
My understanding is that the threshold is anything over nine votes (assuming it's still nine) - so if a candidate gets more than nine votes, the surplus will be transferred to their second preferences.
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« Reply #245 on: April 23, 2018, 06:52:25 PM »

Too lazy to give the whole explanation, so here's a neat spreadsheet. Rounded to the nearest thousandth. Quota is 12, 116 valid voters total. ltomlinson, vern1988 (both not enough posts), PragmaticPopulist (edited too late), wxtransit (deleted original ballot), and Fuzzy Bear (registered too late) are invalid.

CandidateRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
NeverAgain18121212121212
North Carolina Yankee14121212121212
jk2020 (Sestak)11111212121212
dfwlibertylover1010.66710.66710.66713.6671212
Leinad1011.76211.76211.76211.76212.00612
RFayette1010.76211.76211.76211.76211.92511.929
Weatherboy1102911.33311.33311.33311.33311.57711.577
Peebs77.4767.4767.47610.47611.12711.128
Ninja042889.6679.6679.66710.66711.03311.033
Politicalmasta7377.33310.33310.33310.33310.33310.333
Jake Jewvinivisk (WI)7777000
Jimmy78125500000
Remaining Seats9776654
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« Reply #246 on: June 20, 2018, 10:31:18 PM »

WARNING! Do not vote until 0:00 EST (1:00 EDT)! You will have 72 hours in which to vote - there's no rush!


REPUBLIC OF ATLASIA - In Dave We Trust
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READ THIS FIRST

1. The election will last 72 hours, starting at 0:00 EST Friday June 22 and ending 0:00 EST Monday June 25.

2. You are eligible to vote in this election if you have made 10 posts on the Atlas Forum in the past 8 weeks, have registered as a voter with the Registrar General more than 7 days before the start of the election, and have not had your voting rights stripped as a result of deregistration or a court verdict.

3. You must vote by ranking your choices in the order of your preference: 1 for your first preference, 2 for your second preference, and so on. You may write in preferences for candidates not on the ballot. If you only wish to preference one candidate, marking an X next to the candidate's name or simply writing the candidate's name is sufficient, provided that you do not wish your vote to transfer to other candidates.

4. If you do not wish to vote for any candidate on the ballot nor to write in a candidate, you may vote for None of the Above as your first preference. All candidates ranked under None of the Above will not receive those preferences during the counting of the votes.

5. You are permitted, but not advised, to edit your ballot within 20 minutes of posting it within this thread. Deleting your ballot at any time or editing it after 20 minutes will result in the invalidation of your vote.

6. Please check over your ballot thoroughly before you click "Post". You have no excuse for casting a ballot which contains errors or does not accurately reflect your preferences. Failure to correct errors in your ballot may result in its disqualification. While the alphabetically-ordered ballot below is provided for your convenience should you wish to quote this post, you may order the candidates on your ballot however you would like.



PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OF ATLASIA


[  ] North Carolina Yankee/dfwlibertylover
Federalist Party/Independent



[  ] Ninja0428/1184AZ
Progressive Union Party



[  ] LumineVonReuental/Siren
Alliance/Peace Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
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[  ] None of the above



HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES - NINE SEATS


[  ] Computer89/Old School Republican of Oregon
Federalist Party



[  ] fhtagn of South Carolina
Federalist Party



[  ] Lechasseur of Louisiana
Federalist Party



[  ] OneJ_ of Mississippi
Peace Party



[  ] Peebs of North Carolina
Peace Party



[  ] Pericles of Minnesota
Progressive Union Party



[  ] politicalmasta73 of Maine
Federalist Party



[  ] razze of Florida
Peace Party



[  ] RFayette of California
Federalist Party



[  ] vern1988 of Maine
United Atlas Centrists



[  ] weatherboy1102 of South Carolina
Progressive Union Party



[  ] Write-in:______________________________
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[  ] None of the above
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« Reply #247 on: June 24, 2018, 06:59:35 PM »

Question: what will you do with the House ballot that has two first preferences? Since we cannot read voter's intent for first preference it's like an invalid vote for House I reckon.
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« Reply #248 on: June 24, 2018, 07:24:57 PM »

^This. Also, what about that voter who didnt rank their choices, and simply X'd multiple options? I don't remember the username atm.
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« Reply #249 on: June 24, 2018, 11:45:58 PM »

Question: what will you do with the House ballot that has two first preferences? Since we cannot read voter's intent for first preference it's like an invalid vote for House I reckon.
Yeah, it's exhausted when two candidates share a preference.
What about that voter who didnt rank their choices, and simply X'd multiple options? I don't remember the username atm.
I believe it would work from the top down (which is how it will be addressed in the calculations in the morning/afternoon). At least, that's what my sources are telling me.
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