The first good idea to come out of Russia since....ever

[they don't love you like i love you]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38571174/young-russians-born-this-decade-face-complete-smoking-ban

It's a shame such a terrible sh!thole country had to pioneer this fantastic law.

[Intell]

This is good, I guess.

[Crumpets]

Wow. This is... not going to work.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Wow. This is... not going to work.

[Horus]

Wow. This is... not going to work.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Wonderful then they can drown their frustration in adulterated alcohol.

[White Trash]

Wonderful then they can drown their frustration in adulterated alcohol.

Yeah, given how much tobacco Russians consume, I seriously doubt that they will just quit cold turkey. I'd wager you'll see a sharp increase in the consumption of other substances.

[Cassius]

Remember that these people are 2-3 years old at this point, so when they do get to an age where they're more likely to be affected by the law they won't necessarily be massive smokers already. Of course, I'm sure some black market trade will grow up around this, but then that happens every time a government bans anything, and Russia already has a comparatively large black market criminal scene so I doubt it will be a serious change from the norm. The point of these laws isn't to stop every single person from smoking (or doing whatever is banned), the point is simply to achieve a reduction, and any reduction achieved, I think, is good.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Hopefully this leads to more roll-ups, which are scientifically proven to look cooler than cigs.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

It'll be as effective as prohibition. Criminals will make ton of moneys on this and addicts will remain addicted.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It's probably not going to work, but I say let's make a statement anyway. Freedom law.

[dead0man]

Freedom law.

"freedom" is an odd choice of words here, even if it is the Atlas way to approve of something.

Anyway, horrible law.  Obviously not as dumb/bad a ban as say, warming your car up unattended or newspapers at college book stores (because inclusion and diversity!), still bad though.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Freedom law.

"freedom" is an odd choice of words here, even if it is the Atlas way to approve of something.

True. Let's say it's a not-too-shabby law, then.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Code:

It's probably not going to work, but I say let's make a statement anyway. Freedom law.

Nanny state like this is never a good idea. For all noble intentions, it frequently leds to more damage than good.

[dead0man]

Code:

It's probably not going to work, but I say let's make a statement anyway. Freedom law.

Nanny state like this is never a good idea. For all noble intentions, it frequently leds to more damage than good.

Of course not, but don't expect young people with "good intentions" to ever care about things like "likely negative outcomes" or "increased police pressure on poor people".  Their heart is in the right place and that's all that matters.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

"increased police pressure on poor people".

This is exactly why I'm not as uncritically pro-gun control as I used to be, although I still hope it could be accomplished in some way that wouldn't lead to this.

[ag]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38571174/young-russians-born-this-decade-face-complete-smoking-ban

It's a shame such a terrible sh!thole country had to pioneer this fantastic law.

It is really great, if interpreted as a law to maximize corruption (which is, of course, the objective of its authors). Pretty much horrid for all other purposes though.

[ag]

It's probably not going to work, but I say let's make a statement anyway. Freedom law.

A ban on consumption as "freedom"? You have an interesting interpretation of what freedom is.

BTW, what is your attitude to marijuana?

[Higgs]

What happened to All Liberal, All the Time BRTD?

[Cashew]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38571174/young-russians-born-this-decade-face-complete-smoking-ban

It's a shame such a terrible sh!thole country had to pioneer this fantastic law.

Booo! Down with prohibitionist tyrant Putin!

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

This is a repulsive law. The idea of a good or service being legal for some legal adults but not for others is antithecal to freedom.

[RFayette]

Terrible law:  tobacco is evil, but adults have the right to make their own decisions.

If we ban tobacco, what's next?  Soda, snack cakes, fried food?  There are nanny-staters who probably want to ban all those awesome things, and it would suck if we set a precedent making such bans acceptable.

[ag]

Cigarettes should be banned. What are the people on this thread smoking?

Religion is opium for the people. It should be banned as well.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

Cigarettes should be banned. What are the people on this thread smoking?

Then ban the production of a harmful product, instead of declaring certain people to be less in the eyes of the law.

[they don't love you like i love you]

What happened to All Liberal, All the Time BRTD?

Restricting tobacco is liberal. All the first states to implement indoor smoking bans are liberal.