Louisiana "Blue Lives Matter" Law Makes Resisting Arrest a Hate Crime
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« on: January 23, 2017, 09:10:48 PM »

Solid lawmaking.

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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2017, 09:11:12 PM »

What the heck?
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2017, 09:11:20 PM »

Good.  It is a hate crime.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2017, 09:12:18 PM »

Huh?
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2017, 09:13:17 PM »

This is literally the most dangerous state for it to become a law. Very, very, very bad. Why would Edwards do this.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2017, 09:13:40 PM »

I like the intent of this law, but I don't like the designation of "hate crime" in any circumstance.  Just charge someone with the crime they committed.  The prosecution can mention motivation to the jury during sentencing if they want, but it shouldn't be an official designation.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2017, 09:15:41 PM »

This sounds like an article from a slightly more edgy version of the Onion.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2017, 09:15:55 PM »


"Why was I pulled over officer" = Hate crime if the cop decides he doesn't like your tone. (Whether that be the tone of your voice or the tone of your skin color)
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2017, 09:16:48 PM »


No it isn't. Take for instance someone who truly believes they are innocent, and they resist the people coming to put them in a cage. How is that a hate crime? It doesn't mean the person resisting hates the police, or has any prejudices or what have you towards them. It just means they don't want to go into a cage for no reason. Resisting arrest is probably one of the easiest charges for police to abuse, and I can't say I like it being made a hate crime with that in mind.

This is just a law made to pander to certain people. It's completely useless and possibly even harmful/counterproductive.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2017, 09:18:04 PM »

Awful. Disappointing that JBE signed this.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2017, 09:18:31 PM »

Did JBE really sign this?
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2017, 09:19:03 PM »

I like the intent of this law, but I don't like the designation of "hate crime" in any circumstance.  Just charge someone with the crime they committed.  The prosecution can mention motivation to the jury during sentencing if they want, but it shouldn't be an official designation.

With a few very specific exceptions regarding race [which is where wiggle room is obviously needed], I actually agree with this.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2017, 09:21:50 PM »

I really want the "The Future of the Democratic Party is JBE" types to respond to this.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2017, 09:22:18 PM »

JBE: FF->HP

I like the intent of this law, but I don't like the designation of "hate crime" in any circumstance.  Just charge someone with the crime they committed.  The prosecution can mention motivation to the jury during sentencing if they want, but it shouldn't be an official designation.

With a few very specific exceptions regarding race, I actually agree with this.

Why race and not sex, gender, orientation, religion, etc.?
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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2017, 09:29:29 PM »

Awful.

The police need more accountability, not things more unfairly tilted toward them. This will be easily abused.
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« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2017, 09:31:35 PM »

It should be made clear that the letter of the law does not specifically state that resisting arrest can be treated as a hate crime. This article refers to one Louisiana Police Chief's interpretation of the law which, if he attempted to enforce it, would likely result in a legal dispute over the exact meaning of Louisiana's "Blue Lives Matter" law.

Nevertheless, this law is ridiculous, absurd, and harms the intent of hate crimes laws, which are intended to protect historically marginalized and disadvantaged groups due to immutable characteristics; an occupation, such as policing, would not fit said qualifications.
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« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2017, 09:36:17 PM »

Police need their own bathrooms next!

Seriously, this is horsesh**t. I have no idea how hate gets into the equation here. Refuse to take a breathalyzer? HATE CRIME!
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« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2017, 09:37:47 PM »


No it isn't. Take for instance someone who truly believes they are innocent, and they resist the people coming to put them in a cage. How is that a hate crime? It doesn't mean the person resisting hates the police, or has any prejudices or what have you towards them. It just means they don't want to go into a cage for no reason. Resisting arrest is probably one of the easiest charges for police to abuse, and I can't say I like it being made a hate crime with that in mind.

This is just a law made to pander to certain people. It's completely useless and possibly even harmful/counterproductive.

Well, I hate it.

I don't really think it should be charged as a hate crime necessarily, but I like the symbolism.
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« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2017, 09:40:03 PM »


No it isn't. Take for instance someone who truly believes they are innocent, and they resist the people coming to put them in a cage. How is that a hate crime? It doesn't mean the person resisting hates the police, or has any prejudices or what have you towards them. It just means they don't want to go into a cage for no reason. Resisting arrest is probably one of the easiest charges for police to abuse, and I can't say I like it being made a hate crime with that in mind.

This is just a law made to pander to certain people. It's completely useless and possibly even harmful/counterproductive.

Well, I hate it.

I don't really think it should be charged as a hate crime necessarily, but I like the symbolism.

"This law is probably a bad idea, but it makes me feel good if I don't think about it!"
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« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2017, 09:41:06 PM »


No it isn't. Take for instance someone who truly believes they are innocent, and they resist the people coming to put them in a cage. How is that a hate crime? It doesn't mean the person resisting hates the police, or has any prejudices or what have you towards them. It just means they don't want to go into a cage for no reason. Resisting arrest is probably one of the easiest charges for police to abuse, and I can't say I like it being made a hate crime with that in mind.

This is just a law made to pander to certain people. It's completely useless and possibly even harmful/counterproductive.

Well, I hate it.

I don't really think it should be charged as a hate crime necessarily, but I like the symbolism.

"This law is probably a bad idea, but it makes me feel good if I don't think about it!"

Just call me a liberal.
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« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2017, 09:45:34 PM »
« Edited: January 23, 2017, 09:48:57 PM by Special Boy »


No it isn't. Take for instance someone who truly believes they are innocent, and they resist the people coming to put them in a cage. How is that a hate crime? It doesn't mean the person resisting hates the police, or has any prejudices or what have you towards them. It just means they don't want to go into a cage for no reason. Resisting arrest is probably one of the easiest charges for police to abuse, and I can't say I like it being made a hate crime with that in mind.

This is just a law made to pander to certain people. It's completely useless and possibly even harmful/counterproductive.

Well, I hate it.

I don't really think it should be charged as a hate crime necessarily, but I like the symbolism.

"This law is probably a bad idea, but it makes me feel good if I don't think about it!"

Just call me a liberal.

We've come full circle, then? Isn't that the entire Trump thing boiled down, anyway? And who knows? Maybe it will work on some weird Cybernetic Synchronistic Jungian mumbo-jumbo level. Personally, I give it a 15% chance of it being Morning in America, and about a 50/50 chance of this being some Hypernormalization (the set of social conditions of the late 70s/early-mid 80s USSR) 2.0
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« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2017, 09:46:17 PM »

Very, very, very bad. Why would Edwards do this.
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« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2017, 09:48:29 PM »

What a great rationale. Let's apply this to other hate crime laws as a test. So if I punch a black guy, I guess that makes it a hate crime, regardless of intent.
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« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2017, 09:49:53 PM »

What a great rationale. Let's apply this to other hate crime laws as a test. So if I punch a black guy, I guess that makes it a hate crime, regardless of intent.

That's usually how it works in this country anyway.
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« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2017, 09:50:05 PM »

What a great rationale. Let's apply this to other hate crime laws as a test. So if I punch a black guy, I guess that makes it a hate crime, regardless of intent.

But you will want to believe it was even though you and everyone knows it wasn't true!
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