How have your views on abortion changed over the years?
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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2017, 11:11:50 PM »
« edited: February 18, 2017, 11:14:51 PM by MarkD »

Option 1. I changed my mind (from pro-life to pro-choice) when I read in a newspaper about an attorney who argued that if a fetus is an independent life with rights of its own, then putting a pregnant woman in jail is depriving a fetus of liberty without a fair trial.
Down through the years, I have also found it rather ironic that so many pro-lifers are so sure that "abortion is murder," yet they do not want to impose any punishment on a woman who asks to get an abortion.

However, I am NOT in favor of Roe v. Wade as an interpretation of the Constitution. Roe was not an interpretation of the Constitution at all. That Supreme Court decision must be overturned in order to restore a correct understanding of what the Constitution means.
From Justice White's dissenting opinion in Roe:
I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant women and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes. The upshot is that the people and the legislatures of the 50 States are constitutionally disentitled to weigh the relative importance of the continued existence and development of the fetus, on the one hand, against a spectrum of possible impacts on the woman, on the other hand. As an exercise of raw judicial power, the Court perhaps has authority to do what it does today; but, in my view, its judgment is an improvident and extravagant exercise of the power of judicial review that the Constitution extends to this Court.
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« Reply #76 on: February 19, 2017, 03:27:04 PM »

I guess I've always been (more or less) in the "pro-choice" camp but I increasingly find the libertarian-esque language of "choice" off-putting and I also have come to realize (based on discussions with people like TJ, for example) the fact that the moral sense of right and wrong that (most) people have is neither dictated by evolving notions of Progress nor rational (lol) interpretations of empirical data - nor should it be.

Moreover, I now realize that people who genuinely believe that abortion is murder aren't necessarily heartless misogynistic troglodytes, by any means; and consequently - especially considering just how incredibly sensitive moral debates over such intimate matters as the human (specifically, female human) body, the family, and children are - there will probably never be any resolution to this issue (and if there were, what would that say about the state of the fundamentally subjective nature of humanity? Would we really want to live in a world where everyone agreed on everything??).
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« Reply #77 on: March 20, 2017, 03:04:58 PM »

always have been "pro-choice" but now....contrary to my teenage years....i don't view abortion enemies as bigots but caring people with a different worldview on a matter which is even more important for them than for me.
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« Reply #78 on: March 20, 2017, 07:36:55 PM »

We also have plenty of men who want a world in which the sexual revolution has happened for men but not for women. These people are, needless to say, deplorable. (Madonna–whore complex, anyone?)

^This is an important point (although it is only tangentially related to abortion) that is lost on a lot of folks who view women as whores but men as studs for sleeping around. I'd (of course) take it a step further and balk at the idea of expecting fidelity on the part of a woman while the man uses pornography.

Also the way pop culture portrays men as lazy sex-obsessed idiots while women actually run everything is not particularly helpful.
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« Reply #79 on: March 20, 2017, 08:11:46 PM »

Also the way pop culture portrays men as lazy sex-obsessed idiots while women actually run everything is not particularly helpful.
Take out the lazy and it's true.
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« Reply #80 on: March 20, 2017, 08:26:03 PM »

Also the way pop culture portrays men as lazy sex-obsessed idiots while women actually run everything is not particularly helpful.
Take out the lazy and it's true.

I have to agree, but the key thing to remember is that it doesn't have to be so, especially since culture shapes society about as much as the other way around.
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« Reply #81 on: March 20, 2017, 11:10:33 PM »

I've become more pro-life. I've never been a moralist, and don't believe in government intervention in many cases (I was for a period an anarchocapitalist of sorts), my problem with abortion, and the death penalty has more to do with what I believe is a growing problem in our society in general. An increase in hubris.
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« Reply #82 on: March 20, 2017, 11:19:14 PM »

Still very much pro-life but I think i've cooled the rhetoric on the issue. It's still a prominent issue for me in GOP primaries but not in general elections.
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« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2017, 12:09:58 AM »

     I was pro-life until I was about 14. Then I thought about it and I realized I held that view for a really inane reason. I made an about-face and have been pro-choice ever since.
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« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2017, 11:20:09 AM »

I switched back and forth between "should I care or should I not?" Have been relatively apathetic on the issue over the years.
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« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2017, 12:28:30 PM »

Far more pro-choice, I used to favor a complete ban without exceptions AND prosecuting women and doctors who got/provided abortions.
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« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2018, 06:40:16 PM »
« Edited: March 29, 2018, 07:43:06 PM by MB »

Option 2, but never definitively for either.
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« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2018, 07:07:20 PM »

Growing up in rural Virginia, I've always been strongly pro-choice. Some people just should not have been born
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« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2018, 07:57:57 PM »

I use to be 100% pro-choice although I may be drifting rightward on this issue in regards to late term/partial birth abortion.
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« Reply #89 on: March 29, 2018, 09:50:38 PM »

When I first heard the term abortion, I didn't have an opinion on it. Then around my Sophomore Year of High School, after hearing arguments from both sides of the issue, I concluded that I was pro choice. I  oppose late term and partial birth abortions except for when the mother's health is at stake (which is the case for a majority of late term abortions anyway).

I still support exceptions for Incest, Rape and the life of the mother, especially in cases two and three and believe that forcing a rape victim to bring a pregnancy that was the result of a rape to term is putting the woman's health at risk, abet her mental and emotional health. I also believe that people who oppose abortions in cases of incest, rape, and the life of the mother are monsters. It's one thing to oppose abortion as a contraceptive measure, in fact I can respect their position even if I disagree with it, but to force a woman to carry a product of incest to term knowing the risks, or forcing a rape victim to carry her attacker's child to term, or to physically endanger a woman's life for the sake of carrying the pregnancy to term is ed up in so many ways it boils my blood when people try to make a case for outlawing it in these cases (what's worse is they do it on religious grounds). I would also federally fund abortion in these cases.

Now, as a contraceptive measure, I'm of the belief that it should be "safe, legal, and rare." I do not support any state or federal funding going towards abortions that are done solely as a contraceptive measure.  We should also be working to reduce the number of abortions and to do that, we need to have sex education in our schools that teach more than abstinence and we need to make contraceptives more accessible and more affordable.

To answer the question of the thread, I guess not much, if anything, has changed.
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