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Question: 'a man sleeping with a man is just the same as a man sleeping with his dog? do you agree with this elected official?
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« on: July 22, 2005, 01:25:20 PM »

His remarks constantly offend Americans and gives America a bad reputation abroad.

Yes, I agree with him.  And you, as a Catholic, should be offended by homosexuality and any sexual immorality.
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2005, 01:38:09 PM »

His remarks constantly offend Americans and gives America a bad reputation abroad.

Yes, I agree with him.  And you, as a Catholic, should be offended by homosexuality and any sexual immorality.
same here... Fags are filthier than dogs.

I do not agree with you.
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« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2005, 04:21:48 PM »

Actually it is very common for animals to mate or at least attempt to with members of their same sex

A lot of animals also kill and eat their young, but that doesn't make it ok for humans to kill their own young....oh, wait a second....Sorry, I forgot you liberals believe abortion is alright also.
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« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2005, 04:41:00 PM »

He came to the defense of one of his top aides who was openly gay. He's not a bigot.

So, tell me, why would a social conservative want to vote for Santorum if he associates with those who "openly" flaunt their shame as if it were their glory?  Doesn’t the bible teach that approving of someone’s sin is worse than the sin itself?
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« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2005, 04:46:08 PM »


again, I disagree with you...

John 8:7 "He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone."
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« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2005, 04:47:59 PM »

No. I believe you can fire someone for being a homosexual in most states.

Can't a political campaign fire someone for any and every reason?
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« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2005, 04:55:52 PM »

I don't know if there's an exception for political campaigns or not, but we live in a very socialist country where you can't fire someone, for example, on the basis of race. Truly disgraceful how bad things have gotten in the "land of the free."

Don't know if you are being serious or not, but I don't agree with being able to fire someone on the basis of race.
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« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2005, 11:22:59 AM »

What would you rather watch

a women sleeping with a women
or a women sleeping with her dog?

I don't invite people into my house, whether in person or over the tv or over the internet, to have sex.

Maybe you're frustrated because you're not wholly devoted to the word of God.
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« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2005, 11:25:26 AM »

What would you rather watch

a women sleeping with a women
or a women sleeping with her dog?

I don't invite people into my house, whether in person or over the tv or over the internet, to have sex.

Maybe you're frustrated because you're not wholly devoted to the word of God.

How i practice my faith is my buisness. As you dont know how i do this you have no right to tell me whether i am doing something wrong or not.

Then why are you "frustrated"?
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« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2005, 11:58:01 AM »


Why didnt you ask me that question first before judging me with that filthy mind of yours.

My filthy mind?!  Aren't you the one who asked:

What would you rather watch

a women sleeping with a women
or a women sleeping with her dog?

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I am frustrated as we have a President that has failed to fund any kind of education policy.

parents are the number one factor in education, not government.  So be frustrated that there are so many parents who don't take an active interest in their kids education.

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We have personal debt climbing all the time.

Since when is that news?  Most young adults have been taught by Hollywood and MTV that "if it feels good, do it."

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We then have a senate passing a bill to make it harder for people to get out of the holes they are in.

Then if you feel so sorry for the people who have followed their greed into debt, then why don’t you sell all your possessions and use the money to pay off their debts?  Why do you insist on someone else picking up the bill instead of you paying off their debt?

Paul writing to the Romans “Let no debt remain outstanding”

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We have 45 million people that dont have healthcare. We have people that defend the actions of this policy with 'healthcare isnt expensive' well why is it climbing then?

I am self-employed and have four kids and a wife, and our monthly premium is $257/month.  How many of those 45 million have PlayStation and more than one TV?  How many of those 45 million have money to go to the movies?  How many of those 45 million have their priorities mixed up?

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We live in a country that proves natural selection - survival of the fittest...yet the same people that promote this culture ban the theory from school classrooms.

Huh

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I am frustrated with the direction of this country

The direction of this country is a result of sin.  That is why there are so many single mothers perpetuating the cycle of poverty and ignorance.  That is why there are 2 million Americans behind bars.  That is why a good portion of the population is infected with STDs.
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« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2005, 12:06:57 PM »
« Edited: July 25, 2005, 12:10:40 PM by jmfcst »

Your kidding me right? the country is in sin? are you pat robertson?

No, I am not Robertson, but I am not blind to the fact that:
--one out of four girls are molested
--2 million americans are behind bars
--STDs are common throughout the population
--teaching kids to remain virgin until marriage is mocked by the media
--media is pushing the approval of homosexuality
--a president can't call mass murderers "evil" without causing a media frenzy
--etc, etc, etc

Basically, most Americans have used their freedom to indulge their greed and sexual immorality.  
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2005, 12:40:41 PM »

I enjoy sex yet i am not married. Can i not have something to enjoy in such a desperate world?

Like I stated before, you’re frustrated because you’re not wholly dedicated to Christ.

Gal 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

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Media is pushing the approval of homosexuality- 100 years ago if you said blacks were integrated in our society many people would be outraged. If you look at the Greeks, many of them praciticed homosexuality. This idea that its modern is a myth. It started way before Jesus came down.

Apples and oranges - you could compare any sin to discrimination and say "why are adulterers, or murderers, or liars discriminated against? 100 years ago blacks were also discriminated against..."

1) White gentiles discriminating against blacks gentiles is NOT in agreement with the bible, old testament or new testament.  Even Jews discriminating against gentiles is forbidden in the new testament since Christ "has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility"

2) discriminating against homosexuality (calling it a sin) IS IN AGREEMENT with the bible.
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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2005, 12:46:34 PM »

So can you enjoy sex and be dedicated to Christ?
Does Christ have a problem with me owning a vibrator? I'm not having sex outside marriage with anyone?

I didn't know you meant having sex with one's self.
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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2005, 04:14:36 PM »


You have no right to claim she is less 'Catholic' based on such sweeping assumptions. In Scotland most Catholics are realists; they have sex out of wedlock, the use contraception some even have abortions, that is their personal choice. Sex and sexual health has nothing to do with religion it is a personal thing and no one has the legitimacy to question another persons 'religiousness' as a result. Some of the biggest moral preachers who spew out all the 'hosannas, holy holies and thou shalt nots' are some of the biggest hypocrites on the planet.

P.S I'm Catholic too.


So, was Jesus wrong to preach against sexual immorality?
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2005, 04:42:06 PM »

Who said that, but it tends to be those who make the biggest issue about so called sexual immorality & homosexuals tend to go against the very theme of the bible & Jesus's overall teachings to "love thy neighbor" and "not to judge others"

His "overall teachings"?!  Jesus' teachings can be summed up in two words: faith and repentance.

So, you can single out love and judging others all you want, but if you refuse to repent of sin, you will perish.

"The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!" (spoken by Jesus Christ, Mark 1:14)

"But unless you repent, you too will all perish." (spoken by Jesus Christ, Luke 13:3,5)
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« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2005, 05:00:25 PM »

Point being the overall teachings of the bible, the overall message to "love thy neighbor" and not to judge others are something that many of the hoiler than thou gay bashers & morality detectors don't live by

To the contrary, the point being the GREATEST COMMANDMENT of the bible is to "Love God" which is measured by your obedience to his commands, and the 2nd greatest commandment is to "Love your neighbor as yourself."

Mat 22:37-39 Jesus replied: "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."  This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: "Love your neighbor as yourself."

John 14:15 Jesus said, "If you love me you will obey my commandments."

You simply can not separate love from obedience.
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« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2005, 11:29:09 AM »

Gay loving home or child spending years in foster care?

That's like asking "swinger loving home or foster care?"

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« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2005, 05:47:33 PM »
« Edited: July 26, 2005, 06:05:43 PM by jmfcst »

No it isn't - a gay couple can be monogamous, and I have seen such couples.

Well, it could also be that the swinging couple is 5'5" and the homosexual couple is 5'10", but I was comparing homosexuals to swingers because they are both immoral - Monogamy doesn't equate to morality.

You could simply ask the question, "Immoral actity xyz or foster care?":

Admitted and unrepenting daily dog beating, loving couple or foster care?...Admitted and unrepenting bank robbing, loving couple or foster care?...Admitted and unrepenting habitual lying, loving couple or foster care?...Admitted and unrepenting cable tv descramming, loving couple or foster care?...Admitted and unrepenting Satan worshipping, loving couple or foster care?...etc, etc.

Besides, can two unmarried people adopt a child?  If a state says that two people are unfit to marry, how can a state allow them to adopt children?

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2005, 11:29:00 PM »

While not exactly the same thing, both are forms of sexual activity that will fail to produce offspring.

So is heterosexual sex which finishes with an ejaculation anywhere but the vagina.

You're right. So they are all comparable to beastiality.

What?!
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