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« on: July 25, 2005, 05:13:31 PM »

White House hints at U.N. appointment while lawmakers are in recess.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8702754/

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 09:43:36 AM »

Bush appoints Bolton to U.N. post

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8758621/

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Done deal!  Should the Senate now give Bolton an up or down vote?
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 12:20:25 PM »

I'd rather the lady that is/was the interim ambassador continue her work. She seems to be doing a good job.

what is her name?
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 12:21:02 PM »

What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?

maybe he sees eye to eye with him
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2005, 01:03:38 PM »

[sarcasm]
Yea cause this guy is the only one that does...
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such empty words...
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 02:16:32 PM »

Yes, he helped out Plame. He just got a promotion for that.

I seriously doubt Bush would want someone at the UN involved in the Plame case.  If Bush suspects Rove to be indicted, surely he would want to limit the scandal to other parts of the administration.

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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2005, 03:18:57 PM »

What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?

My thoughts exactly.

Have you not read Bush's comments on the man?  Obviously Bush went out of way to get the guy he wanted, so obviously Bush believes they are both on the same page.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2005, 04:53:58 PM »

He can't find someone who is in line with his views that doesn't have such a big paper trail and congressional opposition to his appointment? 

Bolton is very hard-line, which obviously Bush feels fits into this administrations plans for the next 3 1/2 years.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2005, 05:02:28 PM »

But he could no doubt find a somebody who would take exactly the same course of action and be confirmed easily.  That's why I say it's more of a personal issue with Bush not wanting to lose to congress than Bolton being irreplaceable.

Dude, wake up!  This country is at war and the outcome is not a given.  Yet, the Dems see Bush as more of a threat than our enemies!

The Dems in the Senate wouldn't even allow a vote on Bolton.  Now, if the Dems want to try to prove Bolton was unacceptable to the Senate, then they can allow an up or down vote on Bolton as soon as the August recess is over.
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2005, 05:12:33 PM »

So, you believe Bolton is irreplaceable and the course of action he would take could not be ducplicated by any other individual, an individual who likely could easily be confirmed, and you also believe that nominating Bolton is crucial to victory in the war on terror.

I believe Bolton's approach is VERY crucial to victory in the war on terror.  And Bush does not need to go looking for another nominee.  Bush has found the man he wants and if a majority of the republic doesn't agree with it, then a majority of the republic's elected Senators can vote to reject his nominee.

Simple, end of story.
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« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2005, 05:36:48 PM »
« Edited: August 01, 2005, 05:38:48 PM by jmfcst »

I still believe the appointment of Bolton is unnecessary and Bush is going through with this to show the Congress that who he chooses gets in.  That is more of a motive to Bush than is a belief that Bolton is essential to international affairs.

Yeah, that's right, it is all a game to rub the Dems face in the mud of their defeats.  In fact, the whole war is about rubbing the Dems face in the mud.

...did it ever occur to you that the Dems are jealous of Bush being the one making history in this very crucial time period of this country, and that is why they oppose, quietly deep down if not publically, every action Bush makes in the war?
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« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2005, 05:45:49 PM »

JMF I hope you can see how Bolton is a controversial nomination.  There would be little grounds to oppose a guy like Roberts when he gets voted on, and few will.  But Bolton is a man with a long paper trail of questionable comments and it makes sense that people would oppose those views.

Sure, he is controversial.  He wants to:

1) take a hard line with NKorea
2) take a hard line with Iran
3) tell the UN to go jump in a lake

The Dems rather have the UN running things because deep down they don't like the traditional American way of life...and that is why they oppose Bolton.  

The opposition to Bolton's personality is simply a red herring.
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« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2005, 05:50:05 PM »

This view, of course, will do nothing to improve my standing in GOP circles...

Neither will your support for Snowe for President in '08!  Smiley
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« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2005, 05:56:05 PM »

I thought the left hates America talk would calm down after 2004.  I was wrong.

Yep, you are wrong, for Pacifica Radio is still spouting anti-American propaganda day in and day out.
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« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2005, 06:14:35 PM »
« Edited: January 10, 2014, 02:46:17 PM by True Federalist »

Also if possible I'd like some quotes from Pacifica (which I've never listened to as far as I can remember) to back up what you're saying.  I'm sure that they've said pretty stupid things, as that's what extremists will do, but I'd like to know just what.

here is the link:

http://www.pacifica.org/

It is the basic Dem base kind of stuff:  anti-capitalism, anti-globalization, anti-fossil fuel, pro-gay, anti-military, pro-labor, pro-Castro, anti-Americanism, anti-Christian, anti-Israel, pro-Muslim, etc, etc, etc.

They have speakers who visit Cuba and say the vast majorities of Cubans are better off than the average America.

Basically, it is as if opebo had his own radio network.
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« Reply #15 on: August 01, 2005, 06:16:22 PM »

George Bush is as fault for not having a vote.  It was this easy, provide the documens you get the vote.  Bush for some reason (probably due to the damaging stuff that was in those documents) chose the path of ultimate secrecy yet again & refused to release relevant documents regarding his appointment, so their was no vote.  The fault of having no vote lies in the hand of Bush.  & the reason he probably didn't release the documents is probably that stuff in those documents were damaging and could have caused some Republicans who were teetering to be against the nomination.

So why would Bush want Bolton if any reasonable person would look at these documents and conclude Bolton is a wacko?
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