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jfern
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« on: August 01, 2005, 09:59:46 AM »

Since he is so scared of making the documents public & to let the senate  see them, he is going to pull this crap??
Much as I don't really like Bolton, the Framers did put this provision in the Constitution for a reason. Bush is merely checking and balancing the powers of the Senate; it's a perfectly justified and legitimate action on his part.

What a bunch of bullsh**t. The framers put it in because it took weeks for Congress travel to the nation's capital in those days.
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jfern
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2005, 12:58:24 PM »

What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?

That Bolton helped out Plame?
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jfern
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2005, 01:36:16 PM »

What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?

Probably due to ideology.  Bush thinks the UN needs urgent reform, so he's chosen someone who is willing to express himself without stumbling over all the diplomatic speak.

But I mean this is the best guy he could find for that? I don't think his record is that strong anyway.

Yes, he helped out Plame. He just got a promotion for that.
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jfern
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2005, 04:57:03 PM »

The Senate has enough votes to confirm him, so they're not being 'spited.' The filibustering hackjobs are being spited, yes.

That's not a given. Republican Senators had been critical of him. Bush just wanted to avoid further hearings. Bush had refused to cooperate with Congress with the answers they wanted. The Democrats were not obstructing for the heck of it, they were stopping a very dangerous and unethical man who refused to answer certain questions. The Senate is not a rubber stamp for every whackjob that Bush appoints and even members of his own party oppose.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2005, 05:03:39 PM »

The Democrats were not obstructing for the heck of it, they were stopping a very dangerous and unethical man who refused to answer certain questions.

Dangerous?  hahaha . . . "Look out folks, he's stroking his mustache.  RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!"

So you're telling me that someone involved in the Iran Contra scandal and Plame scandal who supports attacking random countries for no reasons, and wants the UN building destroyed isn't dangerous?
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2005, 05:06:05 PM »

But he could no doubt find a somebody who would take exactly the same course of action and be confirmed easily.  That's why I say it's more of a personal issue with Bush not wanting to lose to congress than Bolton being irreplaceable.

Dude, wake up!  This country is at war and the outcome is not a given.  Yet, the Dems see Bush as more of a threat than our enemies!

The Dems in the Senate wouldn't even allow a vote on Bolton.  Now, if the Dems want to try to prove Bolton was unacceptable to the Senate, then they can allow an up or down vote on Bolton as soon as the August recess is over.

The man who ignored the August 6th, 2001 memo titled "Bin Laden determined to strike in US" is a far bigger threat to America than the man he ignored.
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