What would have happened if Wallace was renominated in 1944?
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« on: February 16, 2017, 10:32:42 PM »

How would this change the course of history? With the atomic bomb, Korean War, etc.
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 10:58:22 PM »

Well except Wallace loses 1948 everything from 1945-1948 stay the same

Atom Bomb still happens
Marshall plan still happens
Republicans still take congress in 1946 (prob by larger margin)
Taft Hartley still passes(Remember Truman vetoed it it got overriden )
Military gets desegregated  like otl


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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 06:19:01 PM »

Apocalypse.
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« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2017, 08:07:31 AM »

Well except Wallace loses 1948 everything from 1945-1948 stay the same

Atom Bomb still happens
Marshall plan still happens
Republicans still take congress in 1946 (prob by larger margin)
Taft Hartley still passes (Remember Truman vetoed it it got overriden )
Military gets desegregated  like otl
Wallace would likely have compromised much more with indigenous working class demands for Communism in Greece and Western Europe. Whether he would have supported foreign aid as much as Truman is uncertain – he might have tried to work with the radically progressive working class demands, although they are very different from most working classes in the United States. He would I imagine have been much less willing to recognize the authoritarian regimes of Portugal and Spain.

Most likely there would have been much more presidential pressure for Civil Rights, and Wallace would have been less willing to compromise with the South. Georgia, Arkansas and Texas would definitely have bolted to Thurmond or another Dixiecrat in 1948, and Virginia and Florida would very likely have done so. Wallace was sufficiently liberal that North Carolina, Tennessee and Oklahoma – states with large-scale disfranchisement and full Jim Crow laws but possessing areas that were overwhelmingly Republican in the Appalachians or usually Republican in the northwestern Plains – could even have listed Thurmond as the “Democratic” nominee with full knowledge the result would be Dewey taking their state’s electoral votes and producing something like this map:

Possibly President Dewey – given that we will for simplicity’s sake presume he ran with Warren who was to of course author Brown v. Board of Education – would have attempted to legislate Civil Rights himself. Republican efforts to enforce Civil Rights might have split the Democratic Party just as much as the Democrats trying to do so themselves, especially if Wallace retained the support shown above in the most liberal parts of the North. The possibility of a permanent three-party system is interesting but uncertain – if a Dewey Presidency had not produced major gains in Southern civil rights it might have been long-lasting, but otherwise one imagines that the Dixiecrats would have merged into one or other major party.
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« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2017, 02:09:52 PM »
« Edited: June 03, 2017, 02:31:02 PM by Kingpoleon »


342: Thomas Dewey/Goodwin Knight* - 53.1%
131: Henry Wallace/Claude Pepper - 40.1%
58: Richard Russell Jr./James Eastland - 6.7%
Others - 0.1%


*Became Governor in 1945 when Wallace appointed Warren Attorney General; re-elected in 1946

Dewey appoints a Cabinet of Rivals including Earl Warren, Theodore Roosevelt, III(Commerce), MacArthur(War), Bricker(Treasury), and Stassen(State). Charles Evan Hughes, Jr., Earl Warren, and Robert Taft, Jr., as his SCOTUS appointees, varied widely in their opinions. Chief of Staff Herbert Brownell gathered a group of supporters, including former members of Hiram Johnson's staff. Dewey's inner circle includes former staffers and family members of Johnson, Willkie, and McNary, who all died rather close together. The remainder were Brownell, a handful of Roosevelts and Rockefellers, the Dulles brothers, and James Hagerty.
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