Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
November 22, 2017, 04:20:04 am
HomePredMockPollEVCalcAFEWIKIHelpLogin Register
News: Please delete your old personal messages.

+  Atlas Forum
|-+  Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion
| |-+  U.S. Presidential Election Results (Moderator: Torie)
| | |-+  Describe a Hillary-Romney-McCain-Kerry-Gore-Dole-Bush voter
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 Print
Author Topic: Describe a Hillary-Romney-McCain-Kerry-Gore-Dole-Bush voter  (Read 3483 times)
🕴🏼Melior🕴🏼
Melior
Full Member
***
Posts: 170
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.06, S: -4.17

View Profile
« on: February 25, 2017, 12:24:35 pm »
Ignore

Describe a voter who has voted against the winner every election.

And you can't say "a contrarian who votes against the winner every election in order to not appear too mainstream" because Hillary was perceived as the probable winner before the election, so this person would've voted for Donald Trump if this were case.

Logged

#NeverTrump
Representative simossad
simossad
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 389
Germany


View Profile
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 12:28:53 pm »
Ignore

A moderate Republican who was anti-Bush in 2000 and 2004. Propably voted for Kasich in the primaries.
Logged

Goldwater
Republitarian
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 14531
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.00, S: -4.35


View Profile
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 12:52:11 pm »
Ignore

Hmm, my first instinct would a #NeverTump Republican that also opposed the War in Iraq, but that doesn't explain the Gore vote. Actually, I wonder how many places had both a Dole-Gore swing and a Kerry-McCain swing, I can't imagine it's very many...
Logged



The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Here is my attempt and explaining my own confusing and contradictory views
Old School Republican
Computer89
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 7570


View Profile
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 12:55:14 pm »
Ignore

Moderate anti war never trump republican who believed that gore would continue the boom of the 1990s
Logged

Favorite Politicians from the last 50 years:




Economic Score: 3.61
Social: -0.1


"http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/28x23.gif

Foreign Policy: 1.6


My Timeline: http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=261223.0
(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31
Eharding
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2988


View Profile
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 01:40:18 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!
Logged

Make America Great Again

Political Matrix Score:
Economic score: +5.29
Social score: -3.13

Declaration of Grievances and Innocence:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173972.msg5583015#msg5583015

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2wHDOC2pOzA

Stop the Islamofascist Erdog
nclib
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9635
United States


View Profile
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 02:12:24 pm »
Ignore

The irony is that W. Bush and Trump are probably the most objectionable Republicans during this time.
Logged



"George Bush supports abstinence. Lucky Laura."
- sign seen at the March for Women's Lives, 4/25/04

uti2
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1169


View Profile
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 02:20:26 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

It's interesting, because Bush in 2000 actually ran on a less hawkish platform than Al Gore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9SOVzMV2bc
Logged
Goldwater
Republitarian
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 14531
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.00, S: -4.35


View Profile
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 09:00:46 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

I wouldn't go that far, but they are certainly very much a statistical rarity. It's not too hard to picture a person doing any of these individual swings, but all of them in the same person is another story...
Logged



The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Here is my attempt and explaining my own confusing and contradictory views
AGA
Chrome
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1022


View Profile
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 09:21:52 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.
Logged

RI
realisticidealist
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 10930
Vatican City State


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 4.35

View Profile
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2017, 10:09:11 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

Someone who always votes for veterans, but didn't like GWB?
Logged
(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31
Eharding
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2988


View Profile
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2017, 12:05:43 am »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.

-Dole got a much smaller percentage in 1996 than Bush04 did. The counties in Western Massachusetts that swung to McCain also swung to Bush04 as well.
Logged

Make America Great Again

Political Matrix Score:
Economic score: +5.29
Social score: -3.13

Declaration of Grievances and Innocence:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173972.msg5583015#msg5583015

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2wHDOC2pOzA

Stop the Islamofascist Erdog
Figueira
84285
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9044


View Profile
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2017, 01:28:55 am »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.

There were actually three towns in Massachusetts that voted Gore/Kerry/McCain/Romney/Clinton. The Dole/Bush part is tough, though.
Logged

Note: I am not actually British.

NOVA Green
Oregon Progressive
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3460
United States


View Profile
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2017, 02:36:46 am »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.

This actually sounds a lot like from friend Wes, who grew up, went to college and worked in Massachusetts before moving out to Oregon in the mid 1990s.

He was not a big fan of the DLC wing of the Democratic Party and Bill Clinton's support for Free Trade agreements (NAFTA), as a socially Liberal individual George W. turned him off with the excessive pandering to the evangelicals. He liked Gore on the labor & environmental position regarding free trade, plus as a techie he liked some of Gore's ideas on the tech sector, although I think he voted Nader in 2000 (Will need to ask him).

He thought the Iraq war was a huge folly, plus Kerry was from Mass.....

He was a bit torn in '08, because although personally he liked Obama, he also has a lot of respect of McCain for his "Maverick" brand, military background and experience (My friends Uncle died in 'Nam), and general rejection of the extremist religious agenda of the cultural warrior style Republicans.

2012, he liked and respected Romney, because of his Gubernatorial record in Mass, as well Obama.... I was living in NorCal at the time, so can't state definitively that he voted Romney, but suspect that was likely the case.

In 2016, he almost definitely did not vote Clinton in the GE, and although he disliked and despised much of Trump's style and substance, did support the more economic protectionist Trump messages (Minus the whole anti-immigrant Latino thing, Muslim bans and all that crap).... He was a strong Bernie backer in the primaries..... My suspicion is that he likely wrote-in Bernie rather than voting for either Trump or Clinton.

Logged

AGA
Chrome
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 1022


View Profile
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2017, 02:39:10 pm »
Ignore

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.

-Dole got a much smaller percentage in 1996 than Bush04 did. The counties in Western Massachusetts that swung to McCain also swung to Bush04 as well.

Out of the tens of millions of people who voted in 1996, 2004, and 2008, you're saying that not one of them was a Dole/Kerry/McCain voter? Couldn't it just be a Republican who didn't like Bush?
« Last Edit: February 26, 2017, 04:11:46 pm by AGA »Logged

ApatheticAustrian
ApathicAustrian
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 6654
Austria


View Profile
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2017, 03:23:44 pm »
Ignore

an anti iraq-war center of the road classical republican, focusing on fiscal policy.
Logged

Kingpoleon
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 15806
United States


View Profile
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2017, 10:58:58 pm »
Ignore

A hawkish, environmentalist, classical liberal. George W. is far too populist on welfare and economics with "compassionate conservatism". Trump's populism and anti-free trade turns this guy off.
Logged

"America now is stumbling through the darkness of hatred and divisiveness. Our values, our principles, and our determination to succeed as a free and democratic people will give us a torch to light the way." - Gerald Ford

"Good speech and good looks covers man's every vice. Plain speech and plain looks covers man's every virtue."

Economic: 1.38
Social: -2.36
nclib
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 9635
United States


View Profile
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2017, 12:09:39 am »
Ignore

Hmm, my first instinct would a #NeverTump Republican that also opposed the War in Iraq, but that doesn't explain the Gore vote. Actually, I wonder how many places had both a Dole-Gore swing and a Kerry-McCain swing, I can't imagine it's very many...

I can only find two counties - Russell, KS (Dole's home county) and Smith, TN (Gore's home county).

There were no McCain/Kerry/Dole voters. Prove me wrong!

What about someone in Massachusetts who usually votes Republican but wanted to support the nominee who was from his home state? There were four counties in Massachusetts that swung Republican in 2008.

-Dole got a much smaller percentage in 1996 than Bush04 did. The counties in Western Massachusetts that swung to McCain also swung to Bush04 as well.

Not really 'Western' Massachusetts.

Logged



"George Bush supports abstinence. Lucky Laura."
- sign seen at the March for Women's Lives, 4/25/04

Goldwater
Republitarian
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 14531
United States


Political Matrix
E: 4.00, S: -4.35


View Profile
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2017, 12:23:05 pm »
Ignore

Hmm, my first instinct would a #NeverTump Republican that also opposed the War in Iraq, but that doesn't explain the Gore vote. Actually, I wonder how many places had both a Dole-Gore swing and a Kerry-McCain swing, I can't imagine it's very many...

I can only find two counties - Russell, KS (Dole's home county) and Smith, TN (Gore's home county).

Makes sense, though I doubt either of them also has a Romney-Hillary swing. Tongue
Logged



The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Here is my attempt and explaining my own confusing and contradictory views
Wolverine22
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2442
United States


View Profile
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2017, 01:14:20 pm »
Ignore

A moderate Republican who had the basic decency to be repulsed at Donald Trump and who thought Iraq was a disaster in '04. Basically my aunt from Chagrin Falls, Ohio.
Logged



"There is nothing more dangerous than a pawn that thinks it's a queen."
-President Tom Kirkman (Designated Survivor)

Kirsten Gillibrand for President in 2020!
(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31
Eharding
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2988


View Profile
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2017, 01:29:06 pm »
Ignore

A moderate Republican who had the basic decency to be repulsed at Donald Trump and who thought Iraq was a disaster in '04. Basically my aunt from Chagrin Falls, Ohio.

-But why the vote for Gore, then?
Logged

Make America Great Again

Political Matrix Score:
Economic score: +5.29
Social score: -3.13

Declaration of Grievances and Innocence:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173972.msg5583015#msg5583015

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2wHDOC2pOzA

Stop the Islamofascist Erdog
Wolverine22
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2442
United States


View Profile
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2017, 02:04:41 pm »
Ignore

A moderate Republican who had the basic decency to be repulsed at Donald Trump and who thought Iraq was a disaster in '04. Basically my aunt from Chagrin Falls, Ohio.

-But why the vote for Gore, then?

She liked Clinton enough to vote Gore.
Logged



"There is nothing more dangerous than a pawn that thinks it's a queen."
-President Tom Kirkman (Designated Survivor)

Kirsten Gillibrand for President in 2020!
(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31
Eharding
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 2988


View Profile
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2017, 02:17:54 pm »
Ignore

A moderate Republican who had the basic decency to be repulsed at Donald Trump and who thought Iraq was a disaster in '04. Basically my aunt from Chagrin Falls, Ohio.

-But why the vote for Gore, then?

She liked Clinton enough to vote Gore.

-But then why the Dole vote?
Logged

Make America Great Again

Political Matrix Score:
Economic score: +5.29
Social score: -3.13

Declaration of Grievances and Innocence:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=173972.msg5583015#msg5583015

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2wHDOC2pOzA

Stop the Islamofascist Erdog
🕴🏼Melior🕴🏼
Melior
Full Member
***
Posts: 170
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.06, S: -4.17

View Profile
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2017, 07:59:34 pm »
Ignore

How about a self-identified "intellectual" who typically votes Republican but was turned off Bush and Trump's "anti-intellectual" behavior.
Logged

#NeverTrump
🕴🏼Melior🕴🏼
Melior
Full Member
***
Posts: 170
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.06, S: -4.17

View Profile
« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2017, 08:00:31 pm »
Ignore

I wonder how it feels like voting for the loser every election lol.
Logged

#NeverTrump
MarkD
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 725
United States


View Profile
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2017, 10:35:46 pm »
Ignore

I voted Dukakis, Bush41, Dole, Bush 43 (who lost the popular vote). Then I stayed away from the voting booth the next 3 elections. Then I voted for McMullin.
I had more enjoyment the times I did not vote.
Logged

Rewrite the 14th Amendment!
States should have clear guidelines what laws they cannot pass, and the federal courts should have far less discretion in choosing what laws to strike down. Take away from the federal courts the power to define liberty and the power to define equality. Those are legislative powers and should be in the hands of legislators. Rewrite Section 1 of the 14th to make its meaning narrower and clearer.
Pages: [1] 2 Print 
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Logout

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines