Why did God say: Let us give Satan to mankind?

[Greatest I am]

That is not implied in my question. Most Christians have little knowledge of their religion.
That is why they can adore a genocidal son murdering God and stay in an intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religion.

They know enough about their religion to practice it, you see, for Christianity has been practiced continuously since its inception - forming a tradition with a two-thousand-year-long paper trail. Which tradition has always regarded Satan as male.

Don't worry, I forgive you if you find this concept a little tricky to grasp. You are a self-described Gnostic.

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No, it has nothing to do with my moral sense. Just look at their lives.

Your looking from a moral perspective are you not?

If not, what perspective are you looking from to form your negative view?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

That is not implied in my question. Most Christians have little knowledge of their religion.
That is why they can adore a genocidal son murdering God and stay in an intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religion.

They know enough about their religion to practice it, you see, for Christianity has been practiced continuously since its inception - forming a tradition with a two-thousand-year-long paper trail.

Yes and they have also left a trail of dead people with their Inquisitions.

Christianity and Islam have both grown their religions by the sword instead of good deeds.

I cannot forgive you for ignoring the more vile aspects of Christianity.

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DL

[Mopsus]

Your looking from a moral perspective are you not? If not, what perspective are you looking from to form your negative view?

The perspective of human suffering. That we can tell the difference between the way the world is, and the way the world should be, has caused a lot of pain. Just look at the story of Cain and Abel.

They know enough about their religion to practice it, you see, for Christianity has been practiced continuously since its inception - forming a tradition with a two-thousand-year-long paper trail.

Yes and they have also left a trail of dead people with their Inquisitions. Christianity and Islam have both grown their religions by the sword instead of good deeds. I cannot forgive you for ignoring the more vile aspects of Christianity.

asserting that Satan has always been regarded as male = ignoring the more vile aspects of Christianity???

I'd tell you to lay off the crack cocaine, but the results are just too amusing.

[Greatest I am]

Your looking from a moral perspective are you not? If not, what perspective are you looking from to form your negative view?

The perspective of human suffering. That we can tell the difference between the way the world is, and the way the world should be, has caused a lot of pain. Just look at the story of Cain and Abel.

They know enough about their religion to practice it, you see, for Christianity has been practiced continuously since its inception - forming a tradition with a two-thousand-year-long paper trail.

Yes and they have also left a trail of dead people with their Inquisitions. Christianity and Islam have both grown their religions by the sword instead of good deeds. I cannot forgive you for ignoring the more vile aspects of Christianity.

asserting that Satan has always been regarded as male = ignoring the more vile aspects of Christianity???

I'd tell you to lay off the crack cocaine, but the results are just too amusing.

To know suffering is evil shows you are using your moral sense.

Thanks for making my point.

Regards
DL

[Mopsus]

To know suffering is evil shows you are using your moral sense. Thanks for making my point.

Suffering isn't necessarily evil, but evil is necessarily suffering.

If there were no evil, there would be less suffering.

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RAB

[Greatest I am]

To know suffering is evil shows you are using your moral sense. Thanks for making my point.

Suffering isn't necessarily evil, but evil is necessarily suffering.

If there were no evil, there would be less suffering.

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RAB

Show an example of suffering being good.

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DL

[Mopsus]

Show an example of suffering being good.

When your back hurts from sitting at the computer desk, so you go outside and take a walk.

[Greatest I am]

Show an example of suffering being good.

When your back hurts from sitting at the computer desk, so you go outside and take a walk.

That is quite a reach.

I see it as the impulse to walk as good but the suffering itself as being evil.

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

I do get what you were thinking though.

I would have used something more in line with the pains of healing, like after an opperation.

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DL

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

No it wouldn't. Read A Canticle for Leibowitz.

[Greatest I am]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

I would take itch over pain. Wouldn't you?

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

No it wouldn't. Read A Canticle for Leibowitz.

If it had an answer, I am sure you would have given it instead of a useless suggestion.

Regards
DL

[Mopsus]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

The easiest solution isn't always the best.

Regards

[Greatest I am]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

The easiest solution isn't always the best.

Regards

If the result is the same, yes it is.

Where did you learned your engineering.

I learned mine from engineers, not lawyers who know how to pad a bill.

Even lowly chimps know this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwwclyVYTkk

Regards
DL

[Mopsus]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

The easiest solution isn't always the best.

Regards

If the result is the same, yes it is.

But in this case, the result is not the same. What do you have against walking?

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

People inflict minor pain on themselves to get rid of itches all the time. I, at least, wouldn't choose an ineradicable itch over even major pain.

Anyway, this is a pointless digression from the topic of an asinine thread.

[Greatest I am]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

The easiest solution isn't always the best.

Regards

If the result is the same, yes it is.

But in this case, the result is not the same. What do you have against walking?

Where did walking enter our discussion?

Regardless, if walking half a mile gave the same results as walking a mile then the walker has wasted the time it took to walk the extra half mile when he could have been, let's say, working on his upper body.

Regards
DL

[Greatest I am]

People inflict minor pain on themselves to get rid of itches all the time. I, at least, wouldn't choose an ineradicable itch over even major pain.

Anyway, this is a pointless digression from the topic of an asinine thread.

Yes it was because no one said the itch was ineradicable.

Regards
DL

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

People inflict minor pain on themselves to get rid of itches all the time. I, at least, wouldn't choose an ineradicable itch over even major pain.

Anyway, this is a pointless digression from the topic of an asinine thread.

Yes it was because no one said the itch was ineradicable.

Regards
DL

No one said the pain was ineradicable either.

Again, this is pointless.

[Mopsus]

Regardless, if walking half a mile gave the same results as walking a mile then the walker has wasted the time it took to walk the extra half mile when he could have been, let's say, working on his upper body.

Greatest I am: confirmed curlbro.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

Regardless, if walking half a mile gave the same results as walking a mile then the walker has wasted the time it took to walk the extra half mile when he could have been, let's say, working on his upper body.

Greatest I am: confirmed curlbro.

Have the mods run an IP check to see if he's Liftwieghts34/Mike the Trainer?

[Greatest I am]

People inflict minor pain on themselves to get rid of itches all the time. I, at least, wouldn't choose an ineradicable itch over even major pain.

Anyway, this is a pointless digression from the topic of an asinine thread.

Yes it was because no one said the itch was ineradicable.

Regards
DL

No one said the pain was ineradicable either.

Again, this is pointless.

True, when you ignore your own words.

Regards
DL

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

If we knew nothing worse than an itch, it would seem an agony to us.

Yes but an agony easily cured by scratching.

The easiest solution isn't always the best.

Regards

If the result is the same, yes it is.

Where did you learned your engineering.

I learned mine from engineers, not lawyers who know how to pad a bill.

Even lowly chimps know this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwwclyVYTkk

Regards
DL

What chimps don't know is that life is more than that box with the treat in front of them.  It also involves the people who brought the box.  If you want more treats, simply cutting to the chase for the immediately in sight goal might not be the best policy.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It would be better if our bodies gave us an itch instead of pain or suffering.

No it wouldn't. Read A Canticle for Leibowitz.

Good advice no matter the context. Fantastic novel.

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Satan has traditionally described as a male in Jewish and Christian writing from the earliest times, though with innovation in this from time to time. In the late medieval period, iconography of the Fall in the adopted the practice of showing the serpent as appearing to Eve in the form of a woman.

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