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« on: February 28, 2017, 04:20:49 PM »
Who will be the Jeb Bush candidate in terms of major preparation for a presidential run only to be stopped by a completely different candidate?
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 04:37:15 PM »
Elizabeth Warren
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 04:50:09 PM »

Yea, I could believe this.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2017, 04:51:12 PM »
Andrew Cuomo or Cory Booker
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2017, 04:54:25 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2017, 04:56:37 PM by Maxwell »

nah.

Being Jeb Bush isn't just about being a paper tiger. Being Jeb Bush is about being completely ideologically out of step with the party, perceived as owing all of your loyalties to hostile interests, AND being a secretly disastrous politician.

I think Cory Booker is perfect for this, considering I think Cuomo is both more ideologically conservative and more rhetorically left-wing and is also a slightly craftier politico. But Cuomo is also corrupt, so I suspect a scandal dooms Cuomo and kills his campaign before he even gets started ala Christie.

So Booker is to Bush as Cuomo is to Christie. I think Warren is to Cruz - a candidate most of the ideologues agree with, but haven't fallen in love with. She'll do well, but I doubt she'll be the nominee.
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« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2017, 06:27:12 PM »
« Edited: February 28, 2017, 06:57:39 PM by Eharding »
Most likely: Kamala Harris.

Guys, not Cuomo. Cuomo's Christie.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2017, 06:30:16 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2017, 06:45:54 PM »
Cuomo
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2017, 07:02:58 PM »

If Warren really knew wanted to run then she should've ran for President in 2016.
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« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2017, 07:16:47 PM »
The Democrats have no one comparable to Jeb Bush in their party.  Not really.
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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2017, 07:47:08 PM »
You're forgetting a big name:

Mark Dayton.

Trust fund baby from a super-rich family.

Very little experience working a real job. Never needed to work because he inherited all that money from his grandfather.

Governor of a large state.

Wasn't talked about as a potential candidate at first.

Also seems to have questionable political skills.
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« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2017, 08:30:04 PM »
Cuomo

He seems like the the guy who would massively outspend all of his opponents just to crash and drop out.
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« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2017, 08:41:04 PM »
Quote from: VerySeriousPerson on February 28, 2017, 08:30:04 PM

He seems like the the guy who would massively outspend all of his opponents just to crash and drop out.

I don't think he can do that.  As I've said before, Cuomo will be able to raise a decent amount of money, simply because he's the sitting governor of New York, and so a lot of rich people want to suck up to him.  But I don't think he would actually be able to outraise the rest of the field a la Bush unless people actually think he's likely to win the nomination.  And I don't really see that happening.  Is Cuomo ever going to be leading the polls, for example, as Bush was at least briefly?  I don't see it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2017, 08:47:40 PM »
Hillary Clinton, if she ran again, would be the closest thing. I don't see any of the likely candidates as a good Jeb analogue though.
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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2017, 09:16:48 PM »
Cuomo: Loved by the establishment, but not by voters.
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2017, 03:13:24 AM »
Uh, Hillary Clinton?
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2017, 04:04:22 AM »
Gillibrand.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2017, 04:16:53 AM »
I mean again, part of being Jeb is being the muh 'frontrunner' ahead in the polls early on purely due to high name ID
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« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2017, 04:38:24 AM »
Hilldawg !
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« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2017, 05:32:44 AM »
Quote from: whitesox130 on February 28, 2017, 07:47:08 PM
You're forgetting a big name:

Mark Dayton.

Trust fund baby from a super-rich family.

Very little experience working a real job. Never needed to work because he inherited all that money from his grandfather.

Governor of a large state.

Wasn't talked about as a potential candidate at first.

Also seems to have questionable political skills.

Dayton is a likely presidential candidate? Tongue
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2017, 09:26:24 AM »
Quote from: Lief 🐋 on February 28, 2017, 08:47:40 PM
Hillary Clinton, if she ran again, would be the closest thing. I don't see any of the likely candidates as a good Jeb analogue though.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2017, 09:50:17 AM »
Dayton is not running, ROFL.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2017, 10:52:18 AM »
you can't get closer than hillary.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2017, 10:56:50 AM »
Quote from: Eharding on February 28, 2017, 06:27:12 PM
Most likely: Kamala Harris.

Guys, not Cuomo. Cuomo's Christie.

That's probably true.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2017, 12:04:51 PM »
Hillary Clinton won a majority of Democratic primary voters in two elections, so actually did have a hefty, enthusiastic coalition in her party. She won the nomination. She won the national popular vote by 3 million. She has become an inspirational feminist icon to a sizeable group of voters (none of whom are represented here, evidently Roll Eyes). She is no Jeb Bush.

 
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