Was that a speech by a republican or a old school democrat?
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« on: February 28, 2017, 10:14:17 PM »

American workers, protectionism, fair trade, certain programs like paid leave......

The speech was NOT a reagan-conservative speech.
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2017, 10:25:35 PM »

you never before needed to know so much about politics and be so up-to-date to really understand what in fact is happening.

can change each day...and i believe, this is also connected to the media/public response each idea gets.
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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2017, 10:29:13 PM »

While I agree on some of the points...let's face it...none of those things are passing. The GOP wont even vote for paid leave, fair trade, protectionism, etc...

Yup.

All Trump has done in this regard is proven that the republican base is far more economically populist than a lot of people realized.
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2017, 02:31:07 AM »

Did you miss the for call for mass deregulation, more pipelines, and corporate tax cuts mixed with some ISIS hysteria and more border talk? That's the real agenda. The rest is just what Dubya used to call "compassionate conservatism."
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2017, 02:43:37 AM »

While I agree on some of the points...let's face it...none of those things are passing. The GOP wont even vote for paid leave, fair trade, protectionism, etc...

Yup.

All Trump has done in this regard is proven that the republican base is far more economically populist than a lot of people realized.
Not necessarily. People tend to vastly overestimate how rational voting behavior is. People support Trump for lots of reasons, but his actual policies are probably not at the top of that list. Most of his supporters support Trumps policies because they are Trumps policies. They likely wouldn't support the same policies had they originated from Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2017, 02:53:09 AM »

While I agree on some of the points...let's face it...none of those things are passing. The GOP wont even vote for paid leave, fair trade, protectionism, etc...

Yup.

All Trump has done in this regard is proven that the republican base is far more economically populist than a lot of people realized.
Not necessarily. People tend to vastly overestimate how rational voting behavior is. People support Trump for lots of reasons, but his actual policies are probably not at the top of that list. Most of his supporters support Trumps policies because they are Trumps policies. They likely wouldn't support the same policies had they originated from Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

It doesn't prove his voters are populist but it does prove they aren't doctrinaire libertarians.
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2017, 02:55:54 AM »

While I agree on some of the points...let's face it...none of those things are passing. The GOP wont even vote for paid leave, fair trade, protectionism, etc...

Yup.

All Trump has done in this regard is proven that the republican base is far more economically populist than a lot of people realized.
Not necessarily. People tend to vastly overestimate how rational voting behavior is. People support Trump for lots of reasons, but his actual policies are probably not at the top of that list. Most of his supporters support Trumps policies because they are Trumps policies. They likely wouldn't support the same policies had they originated from Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton.

Many of the people that voted for Trump in MI, PA, and WI were two time Obama voters. Sure, Hillary did a great job of tanking herself at every turn, but I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Trump's views on trade and infrastructure opened the door. Remember that Obama and Romney were both free traders, so it was impossible to vote based on that issue in 2012, and infrastructure was never even discussed.
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