What happens if Trump/Republicans keep winning while losing the PV? (user search)
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Beet
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« on: June 11, 2017, 02:24:39 PM »

Let's say it's also happening at the Congressional level - Ds have also won the House PV but failed to win the House, and also the overall Senate PV, but failed to win the Senate. It happens in 2020. And then again in 2024.

Does anything happen other than Democrats making a noise and then everyone else forgetting about it? Or does it start a real push for electoral reform?

What would a real push for electoral reform look like?
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Beet
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 03:51:12 PM »

I don't see why people keep bringing up splitting up California. What would that achieve? It would impact the Senate, but have no impact on the presidency. Besides, Republicans could just split up Nebraska. It's pretty silly as a solution.

In my view, an undemocratic system is illegitimate. You can have a PV/outcome split once in a while, as in the UK and Australia, but when there are systemic factors affecting this and it is chronic, the system is no longer supported by popular sovereignty. The best thing states like California could do in situations like that is to simply declare independence.
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