Will Obamacare repeal/replace pass Congress?

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

I think at the rate this is going, Obamacare is here to stay. I mean to have Kennedy, Capito, Cassidy, Collins, Portman, Gardner and Heller practically hinting or outright saying no, I believe it will fail. I don't even expect more than 47 yea's at this rate

I don't think they're stupid enough to go against their own state interests ans vote for it if it doesn't protect the Medicaid expansion.

[Mr. Morden]

They might be able to pass some minor tweaks and call that a "replacement", but that's as far as it'll go.

[Santander]

Partial repeal and repackaging seems most likely at this point.

[The Other Castro]

They might be able to pass some minor tweaks and call that a "replacement", but that's as far as it'll go.

Mostly this. The current House plan that was just put forward will not pass.

[I Won - Get Over It]

They might be able to pass some minor tweaks and call that a "replacement", but that's as far as it'll go.

Yes, and take credit for it. I'm pretty sure that Trump is not against Obamacare. So he will take Obamacare and rebrand it with big golden TRUMP. He is good at it.

[Classic Conservative]

Some form of it.

[Mr. Morden]

Btw, to repeat what I wrote last week:

Why does it seem like people are vacillating back and forth between "Congressional Republicans are lap dogs who'll vote with Trump no matter what" and "Trump won't be able to get anything passed through Congress"?

[I Won - Get Over It]

They might be able to pass some minor tweaks and call that a "replacement", but that's as far as it'll go.

Yes, and take credit for it. I'm pretty sure that Trump is not against Obamacare. So he will take Obamacare and rebrand it with big golden TRUMP. He is good at it.

Trump said he would keep pre-existing conditions and Planned Parenthood funding yet this bill eliminates both

Have you already read it? It is 123 pages long.

[The Other Castro]

1. Republicans introduce repeal/replace bill
2. Critical Republicans announce opposition
3. Repeat step 1 but with some concessions
4. Repeat step 2
5. Repeat step 1 but with more concessions
6. Democrats stay or mostly stay united with 48/47 opposition vote (with/without Manchin)
7. Vote after vote is held, each time failing in the Senate
8. Republicans emphasize every failure with current healthcare system to shift the conversation
9. 2018 elections
10.

[Person Man]

Its basically replace subsidies, quality assurance, and the mandate with loans?

[Ronnie]

Ryan says his plan will pass the House:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-votes-235793

I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe he's telling the truth.

[The_Doctor]

Ryan says his plan will pass the House:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-votes-235793

I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe he's telling the truth.

There will be 218 votes. There won't be 51 votes in the Senate. Also RyanCare, interestingly, may end up not on the docket because of this. All the ObamaCare political capital may end up going to this and if it fails, RyanCare may not even come up.

Personally I think they end up leaving 90% of the law in and end up agreeing to a status quo, more or less, with a conservative dressing.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Actually here's what CNN reported on this bill:

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So not totally terrible but ironically forces states to expand Medicaid otherwise they'll never get it again after 2020.

Ironically Kansas Senate today is debating passing Medicaid expansion after the House voted yes. I'm beginning to think nobody is taking repeal serious anymore

What is the current map of states that have taken the Medicaid expansion?

[The_Doctor]

This is why the Medicaid expansion was left alone.

[Ronnie]

Ryan says his plan will pass the House:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-votes-235793

I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe he's telling the truth.

There will be 218 votes. There won't be 51 votes in the Senate. Also RyanCare, interestingly, may end up not on the docket because of this. All the ObamaCare political capital may end up going to this and if it fails, RyanCare may not even come up.

Personally I think they end up leaving 90% of the law in and end up agreeing to a status quo, more or less, with a conservative dressing.

Aside from Rand Paul and perhaps Mike Lee, I can't think of anyone McConnell or Trump can't potentially convince to bring on board.  Ted Cruz seems like someone who should have already pushed back against it, but he has not, leading me to believe he'll back it when push comes to shove.  We'll see, I guess.

[Mr. Morden]

Ryan says his plan will pass the House:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-votes-235793

I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe he's telling the truth.

There will be 218 votes. There won't be 51 votes in the Senate. Also RyanCare, interestingly, may end up not on the docket because of this. All the ObamaCare political capital may end up going to this and if it fails, RyanCare may not even come up.

Personally I think they end up leaving 90% of the law in and end up agreeing to a status quo, more or less, with a conservative dressing.

Aside from Rand Paul and perhaps Mike Lee, I can't think of anyone McConnell or Trump can't potentially convince to bring on board.  Ted Cruz seems like someone who should have already pushed back against it, but he has not, leading me to believe he'll back it when push comes to shove.  We'll see, I guess.

I'm not convinced McConnell actually wants it to pass.  The fact that he's bypassing the Senate committees to just vote on the House bill suggests that he might just be going through the motions, so everyone who needs to be on record voting for "Obamacare repeal" will be able to do so, and then they can move on to Plan B, whatever that is.

[Devout Centrist]

Ryan says his plan will pass the House:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/paul-ryan-obamacare-repeal-votes-235793

I don't know, but I'm inclined to believe he's telling the truth.

There will be 218 votes. There won't be 51 votes in the Senate. Also RyanCare, interestingly, may end up not on the docket because of this. All the ObamaCare political capital may end up going to this and if it fails, RyanCare may not even come up.

Personally I think they end up leaving 90% of the law in and end up agreeing to a status quo, more or less, with a conservative dressing.

He may not even have 218. If the Freedom Caucus stays put, Ryancare is dead.

[The Other Castro]

This might not even get past the House:

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
House conservatives emerge from meeting suggesting GOP health care bill has serious problems, willl need D support - not theirs - to pass

[Ronnie]

This might not even get past the House:

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
House conservatives emerge from meeting suggesting GOP health care bill has serious problems, willl need D support - not theirs - to pass

He just appended that tweet with this one:

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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/839308116227416064

[publicunofficial]

This might not even get past the House:

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
House conservatives emerge from meeting suggesting GOP health care bill has serious problems, willl need D support - not theirs - to pass

Any Democrat who votes for Ryancare should be primaried. I don't care how Republican-leaning their district is.

[Hindsight was 2020]

This might not even get past the House:

Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney
House conservatives emerge from meeting suggesting GOP health care bill has serious problems, willl need D support - not theirs - to pass

Any Democrat who votes for Ryancare should be primaried. I don't care how Republican-leaning their district is.

Also why would any dem vote for it when so many Rs are against it? They have the perfect excuse for right leaning districts "hey your own party hates it"

[Green Line]

Republicans can barely scrape together enough votes to keep the government running.  Did anyone really think they were going to be able to do this??  

[Mr. Morden]

Did anyone really think they were going to be able to do this??  

Well, many folks here seemed to be under the impression that because they confirmed his Cabinet, that meant that the Republican in Congress were going to vote with Trump on everything.  The only dissenting votes would be those allowed by leadership that didn't prevent passage (e.g., Collins and Murkowski on DeVos), and so everything they wanted to pass would go through.

[Ronnie]

Going further than Paul Ryan, Kellyanne Conway says that the president guarantees the bill will pass both the house and the senate:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-guarantees-republican-health-care-will-pass-235819

[KingSweden]

Going further than Paul Ryan, Kellyanne Conway says that the president guarantees the bill will pass both the house and the senate:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-guarantees-republican-health-care-will-pass-235819

Well, it's settled then. This isn't passing.