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« Reply #150 on: January 11, 2018, 03:00:08 PM »

Yeah, Messer is definitely a Todd Youngian force of electoral nature.

Braun continues to be the strongest Republican going, and it's looking all the likelier he cuts up through the middle between Messer and Rokita.
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« Reply #151 on: January 13, 2018, 09:54:12 PM »

https://twitter.com/indgop/status/952253852484554752

Messer wins the strawpoll at the GOP meeting. About the result I'd expect looking at the Messer/Rokita/Braun ratio.
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« Reply #152 on: January 14, 2018, 01:16:16 PM »

https://twitter.com/indgop/status/952253852484554752

Messer wins the strawpoll at the GOP meeting. About the result I'd expect looking at the Messer/Rokita/Braun ratio.

Good result. Won’t matter much but it should be a good signal to GOP donors that Messer is their man.
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« Reply #153 on: January 14, 2018, 10:09:33 PM »

https://twitter.com/indgop/status/952253852484554752

Messer wins the strawpoll at the GOP meeting. About the result I'd expect looking at the Messer/Rokita/Braun ratio.

Good result. Won’t matter much but it should be a good signal to GOP donors that Messer is their man.

He's the man to the Indiana establishment. I'm not sure that his support from them will translate to the GOP grassroots. Have they learned their lesson? Maybe. But I'm skeptical.
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« Reply #154 on: February 01, 2018, 09:45:21 AM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.
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« Reply #155 on: February 01, 2018, 10:17:20 AM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.


Go Braun!
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« Reply #156 on: February 01, 2018, 11:43:43 AM »

https://twitter.com/indgop/status/952253852484554752

Messer wins the strawpoll at the GOP meeting. About the result I'd expect looking at the Messer/Rokita/Braun ratio.

Is this the straw poll he was accused of rigging?
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« Reply #157 on: February 01, 2018, 02:29:49 PM »

https://twitter.com/indgop/status/952253852484554752

Messer wins the strawpoll at the GOP meeting. About the result I'd expect looking at the Messer/Rokita/Braun ratio.

Is this the straw poll he was accused of rigging?

Yes.

Also, Rokita comes up with 450 thousand, essentially nothing (lol.)
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« Reply #158 on: February 01, 2018, 03:09:31 PM »

Braun might seriously become the front runner soon
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« Reply #159 on: February 02, 2018, 09:18:20 AM »

Braun might seriously become the front runner soon

Braun concerns me much more than the Congressmen clowns.

Same. Everyone has 3 months left to get him out of the race.
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« Reply #160 on: February 02, 2018, 10:07:00 AM »

I am concerned by Donnelly's small haul.
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« Reply #161 on: February 09, 2018, 02:38:10 PM »

For all the talk, Donnelly passes the filling day without a primary challenge. Will be Donnelly, Braun, Messer and Rokita on the May 8th primary ballots.
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« Reply #162 on: February 09, 2018, 11:57:41 PM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.

Braun is self-financing. 90% of his funds are from himself, and he says he has more on the way. Donnelly and the other Republicans have been relying on traditional fundraising.
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« Reply #163 on: February 12, 2018, 09:59:21 AM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.

Braun is self-financing. 90% of his funds are from himself, and he says he has more on the way. Donnelly and the other Republicans have been relying on traditional fundraising.

Still, that’s unideal. Maybe Donnelly is in more trouble than McCaskill.
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« Reply #164 on: February 12, 2018, 10:07:08 AM »

This is just a guess, but I assume Donnelly lacks the fundraising base that McCaskill has? He's never been a very high figure in the party, seems to keep to himself etc
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« Reply #165 on: February 12, 2018, 10:32:32 AM »
« Edited: February 12, 2018, 01:35:24 PM by Cal »

If 90% of Braun's funds are self-financed as Cal said, then that would put his traditional fundraising figures at ~200k.  Which would still mean Donnelly is outraising the Republican field through traditional fundraising.  A bit over ~1mil for the Republican field and ~1.2mil for Donnelly is encouraging numbers.

I'm not saying that Braun's self-fundraising should be ignored, it's very clearly a threat.  But I don't think we should act like Donnelly's fundraising is suddenly awful because Braun has more personal wealth to juke up his own numbers.

Here's percentages breaking down donations and self-financing: https://www.opensecrets.org/races/candidates?cycle=2018&id=INS1&spec=N

Braun has raised less than $400,000 from donors and has loaned his campaign over $3 million since announcing. Donnelly still has over twice on-hand what Braun does, though.
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« Reply #166 on: February 12, 2018, 11:46:23 AM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.

Braun is self-financing. 90% of his funds are from himself, and he says he has more on the way. Donnelly and the other Republicans have been relying on traditional fundraising.

Still, that’s unideal. Maybe Donnelly is in more trouble than McCaskill.

I so agree. I think McCaskill is often underrated as a campaigner and fundraiser. Her win in 2012 was not accidental, whereas Donnelly’s was much less intentional.
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« Reply #167 on: February 12, 2018, 05:32:25 PM »

Q4 numbers:

Braun: 2 million (!!!)
Donnelly: 1.2 million
Messer: 430 thousand (!!!)
Rokita: hasn't posted his numbers yet...?

(source) https://howeypolitics.com/

Okay, I'm not sure how Rokita hasn't posted his numbers yet since we're past the filling deadline, but whatever. I know Braun is independently wealthy, but wow. 2 million? And Messer could only muster up 430 thousand? This is a three-way horserace. Definitely one to watch.

Braun is self-financing. 90% of his funds are from himself, and he says he has more on the way. Donnelly and the other Republicans have been relying on traditional fundraising.

Still, that’s unideal. Maybe Donnelly is in more trouble than McCaskill.

I so agree. I think McCaskill is often underrated as a campaigner and fundraiser. Her win in 2012 was not accidental, whereas Donnelly’s was much less intentional.

I think  McCaskill is an exceptionally talented politician, but have thought she’s the weakest Democrat up this cycle, with Donnelly a close second. That might not quite be the case anymore, but we’ll see. It’s good to know Donnelly still has much more on hand than Braun.
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« Reply #168 on: February 12, 2018, 05:44:31 PM »

I really wish I had been wrong about Braun being the strongest candidate in the primary. Couple his self-funding with his being easily the most Indiana-friendly candidate of the three Republicans and I really don't like the idea of facing him.
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« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2018, 09:29:36 AM »

Rokita has his 1st TV slot up.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=4r5QXctM4L8
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« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2018, 09:48:20 AM »

Isn't trump below water in Indiana? running as Pro-trump might hurt him more than its going to help him
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« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2018, 01:57:36 PM »

Here are two of Braun’s. The immigration one is on tv now. I’m not sure if messer has a spot up yet or not. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OKCbQ5UFgbY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VXuwIZEVmFM
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« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2018, 02:01:12 PM »

Here is the first debate if anyone’s interested. Messer is the sensible one but is afraid to say that so he tries to justify his less extremist positions like voting to not shutdown the government as what Trump wanted. Rokita might be the strongest debator but he was full of attack’s and in general is not a very nice guy. Braun was pretty rambly, and avoided taking clear positions.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rXcrhC1r8UY
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« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2018, 02:10:21 PM »

Isn't trump below water in Indiana? running as Pro-trump might hurt him more than its going to help him

Trump is barely underwater but certainly is not among GOP primary voters.
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« Reply #174 on: March 02, 2018, 09:32:27 AM »

Isn't trump below water in Indiana? running as Pro-trump might hurt him more than its going to help him

Not in the primaries
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