Trumpcare Megathread: It's dead (for now)

[Person Man]

Tomorrow is the big decision day and I'm fairly certain he will cut the CSR's.

I think he'll announce that he's paying them for one more month, and then we get to do this all over again in a month, when he'll announce that he's doing 1 more month, and so on.

Nothing on this?

The big announcement seems to be Jim Justice switching parties so I if Trump does stop CSR payments, the announcement wont be tonight.

Maybe it is time to put Pepe in the ground after all...

[Person Man]

Tomorrow is the big decision day and I'm fairly certain he will cut the CSR's.

I think he'll announce that he's paying them for one more month, and then we get to do this all over again in a month, when he'll announce that he's doing 1 more month, and so on.

Nothing on this?

The big announcement seems to be Jim Justice switching parties so I if Trump does stop CSR payments, the announcement wont be tonight.

I guess he's moving up in the world...the executive washroom really does that for people.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The senate stands adjourned until September 5.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Republican donor sues GOP for fraud over ObamaCare repeal failure

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I'm sure this will go nowhere, but it's amusing.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Republican donor sues GOP for fraud over ObamaCare repeal failure

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I'm sure this will go nowhere, but it's amusing.

TBF, he has a point.

[Person Man]

Republican donor sues GOP for fraud over ObamaCare repeal failure

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I'm sure this will go nowhere, but it's amusing.

TBF, he has a point.

This almost like suing the doctor for malpractice when a patient dies because they don't respong to immunotherapy after they didn't respond to chemo.

[Frodo]

It's a start.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Skinny repeal isnt necessary, if you have economic hardships, tax penalties don't apply.

[Higgins]

Make Obamacare stronger - wider - more affordable. Keep your hands off Medicare and Medicaid.

[Person Man]

Trump has officially given up:

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TrumpCare

[Frodo]

Trump has officially given up:

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Beautiful -as soon as a law is passed by this Congress (and signed by this President) stabilizing Obamacare and sets it on a path toward it truly 'bending the cost curve', then we will know this law has gained a status on par with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.   

[HisGrace]

Trump has officially given up:

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Beautiful -as soon as a law is passed by this Congress (and signed by this President) stabilizing Obamacare and sets it on a path toward it truly 'bending the cost curve', then we will know this law has gained a status on par with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.   

It could be "upgraded" to something that provides genuine universal coverage. I don't know why we didn't just do a voucher system. Democrats would like it better since it actually provides universal coverage, I and a lot of Republicans would like it better since it's more market driven, and it avoids a lot of the logistical problems with the exchanges. It could have easily passed with bi-partisan support either in 08 or today.

[Cashew]

Trump has officially given up:

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Beautiful -as soon as a law is passed by this Congress (and signed by this President) stabilizing Obamacare and sets it on a path toward it truly 'bending the cost curve', then we will know this law has gained a status on par with Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.  

It's not truly a fix unless it strips all power from Republican governors to sabotage the law.

[GeorgiaModerate]

New Kaiser poll

ACA favorability:

Favorable 52 (Very favorable 30) - record highs for both
Unfavorable 39 (Very unfavorable 29)

View on Senate bill not passing:

Good thing 60
Bad thing 35

Next steps:

Fix remaining problems with ACA 69
Continue with repeal & replace 29

[GeorgiaModerate]

Just in case there's not enough going on in the political world, tomorrow the CBO will release its score of what happens if Trump stops ACA subsidy payments.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/346560-cbo-to-release-report-tuesday-on-ending-obamacare-insurer-payments

[GeorgiaModerate]

CBO score if Trump costs off CSRs to the insurance companies

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[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

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So, basically, about two million people die from lack of insurance over the course of 2018 and 2019, but it actually saves lives afterwards. If this were to be paired with $194 billion in tax increases for millionaires and/or spending cuts (I don't tolerate increasing the deficit), maybe I could support it.

[GeorgiaModerate]

August CSR payments will be made

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I just thought got an evik thought as to how the GOP could maybe get its cake and eat it too. With this CBO score, they might pair a requirement for the CSRs to be paid with a $194 billion tax cut and pass it under reconciliation. I think they can probably get the Senate parliamentarian to hold eir nose long enuf to agree to such shenanigans.

[Yank2133]

August CSR payments will be made

Wow cuck!

[GeorgiaModerate]

Vox has an interesting article on shifting American attitudes on the government and health care.  Using data from Gallup and Pew polls, they found a huge swing in just the last four years.  On the question of  whether it's the federal government's responsibility to ensure that all Americans have health coverage, the results were:

2013: 42/56 (-14)
2014: 47/50 (-3)
2015: 51/47 (+4)
2016: 51/46 (+5)
2017: 60/39 (+21)

That's a net change of +16 in the last year, and an astonishing +35 over four years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16158918/voxcare-poll-government-run-health-care

[Young Conservative]

Vox has an interesting article on shifting American attitudes on the government and health care.  Using data from Gallup and Pew polls, they found a huge swing in just the last four years.  On the question of  whether it's the federal government's responsibility to ensure that all Americans have health coverage, the results were:

2013: 42/56 (-14)
2014: 47/50 (-3)
2015: 51/47 (+4)
2016: 51/46 (+5)
2017: 60/39 (+21)

That's a net change of +16 in the last year, and an astonishing +35 over four years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16158918/voxcare-poll-government-run-health-care

Because the media literally straight up lies and people are getting desensitized to it...

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Vox has an interesting article on shifting American attitudes on the government and health care.  Using data from Gallup and Pew polls, they found a huge swing in just the last four years.  On the question of  whether it's the federal government's responsibility to ensure that all Americans have health coverage, the results were:

2013: 42/56 (-14)
2014: 47/50 (-3)
2015: 51/47 (+4)
2016: 51/46 (+5)
2017: 60/39 (+21)

That's a net change of +16 in the last year, and an astonishing +35 over four years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16158918/voxcare-poll-government-run-health-care

People who disapprove of ObamaCare from the left will switch back to saying they disapprove of it after Republicans stop trying to repeal it.

[Holmes]

Vox has an interesting article on shifting American attitudes on the government and health care.  Using data from Gallup and Pew polls, they found a huge swing in just the last four years.  On the question of  whether it's the federal government's responsibility to ensure that all Americans have health coverage, the results were:

2013: 42/56 (-14)
2014: 47/50 (-3)
2015: 51/47 (+4)
2016: 51/46 (+5)
2017: 60/39 (+21)

That's a net change of +16 in the last year, and an astonishing +35 over four years.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/16/16158918/voxcare-poll-government-run-health-care

People who disapprove of ObamaCare from the left will switch back to saying they disapprove of it after Republicans stop trying to repeal it.

The numbers are for whether it's the government's responsibility that everyone has health care, not Obamacare's approvals.

[The Other Castro]

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