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JustinTimeCuber
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« on: March 24, 2017, 01:22:15 PM »

Honorable Justice Jbrase, Associate Justice for the South, I am filing this lawsuit against Ben Kenobi on the grounds that he broke the Rules of Procedure of the Southern Legislature, section 4:
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Ben Kenobi, as Dean of the Chamber of Delegates, conducted nominations under Section 1 then proceeded to hold a vote under the same. However, after all Delegates voted, he arbitrarily disqualified two of the votes, that of Delegate fhtagn and my own, by creating a rule with no precedent that ballots can not be edited more than 10 minutes after being posted. The Rules and Procedure give him no authority to do so, and he clearly did this on partisan grounds to change the result. Again, the Rules and Procedure give him no authority to do this.

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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 01:35:40 PM »

How exactly is invalidating a ballot edited 5 hours after it was cast partisan?
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 01:38:16 PM »

Well, for one, first you just tried to get my ballot, which was only edited 15 minutes after being cast. Secondly, you have no power to decide what the time limit is. Maybe if you would stop deadlocking everything and let the right person be Speaker, we could improve upon the rules.
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 01:57:38 PM »
« Edited: March 24, 2017, 02:00:00 PM by IDS Speaker Ben Kenobi »

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Correct, and in the end I chose to accept your ballot. This is after I already notified you once to correct your ballot (which was invalid as cast) as you had two ballots there.

I am not out to get you Cuber.

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How is it partisan for me to invalidate a ballot cast after 5 hours? Peebs agreed with me, that it was reasonable to invalidate ftaghn's ballot.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 02:01:53 PM »

I think you're misinterpreting what Secretary Peebs said, unless she PMed you. You still haven't pointed to any authority you might have to disqualify a vote based on it being edited too late. There is only one mention of your task as Dean:
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Doesn't say anything about arbitrarily discounting votes.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 02:04:36 PM »

Can confirm I did not PM Ben.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 02:05:24 PM »

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My task as Speaker and Dean of the House of Delegates is to conduct the Speakership vote. Peebs, who is our elections official concurs with invalidating fhtagn's ballot.

This deadlocks the election 2:2.

You are well within your rights to contest the election here, but there are precedents for invalidating ballots in similar circumstances in the South.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 02:06:16 PM »

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Indeed. I don't believe I ever claimed that you contacted me via PM.
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 02:17:39 PM »

Peebs, who is our elections official concurs with invalidating fhtagn's ballot.
Again, I said if anything, not that there was anything.
it appears that you are mistaken.
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 02:18:16 PM »

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Indeed. I don't believe I ever claimed that you contacted me via PM.
I figured I might as well make it clear. Tongue
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 06:37:44 PM »

I withdraw this case conditional on Delegate Ben Kenobi calling for a re-vote in the next two hours with the condition that no vote shall be invalidated without breaking a rule clearly stated in the original post calling for a re-vote.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 08:34:56 PM »

As stated in the other thread, until these cases are decided the office of speaker shall remain vacant and y'all will just have to move things in the the Chamber forward by consensus. I will give the plaintiff JTC 24 hours to plead his case and Ben Kenobi or a representative of his choosing shall have an additional 24 hours to respond.

So it is written, so it shall be done.
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2017, 10:33:07 PM »

I withdraw this case conditional on Delegate Ben Kenobi calling for a re-vote by 3:00 PM CDT tomorrow with the condition that no vote shall be invalidated without breaking a rule clearly stated in the original post calling for a re-vote.
Otherwise, I will plead my case. As I said in a different thread, starting up shouldn't take 2 full weeks. Vámonos.
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« Reply #13 on: March 25, 2017, 03:15:27 PM »

Okay, so since we've reached a deal, I'm withdrawing this case.
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