Belgian Politics & Elections: Federal, regional & EP elections on June 9, 2024

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When will Belgium split up?

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When will Belgium split? This country never made any sense to me. The best would be to partition it between the Netherlands and France.

[windjammer]

When will Belgium split? This country never made any sense to me. The best would be to partition it between the Netherlands and France.

See, this is why people don't like the French...

Which controversial thing did I say?

[windjammer]

When will Belgium split? This country never made any sense to me. The best would be to partition it between the Netherlands and France.

See, this is why people don't like the French...

Which controversial thing did I say?

It's not controversial at all, that's the point. At this point you are simply boring.

Well, fortunately I'm not posting here to please particular posters. So if you find me boring I invite you to either put me on ignore or to kindly **** off

[windjammer]

When will Belgium split? This country never made any sense to me. The best would be to partition it between the Netherlands and France.

See, this is why people don't like the French...

Which controversial thing did I say?

It's not controversial at all, that's the point. At this point you are simply boring.

Well, fortunately I'm not posting here to please particular posters. So if you find me boring I invite you to either put me on ignore or to kindly **** off

Si seulement tu étais capable de plaire à quoi qui que ce soit. Je suis vraiment désolé que tu n'as pas eu assez d'attention de la part de tes parents, et je vais suivre ton conseil.

Honestly I find this personal attack quite petty but that obviously doesn't affect me.
Just a remark, "quoi qui ce soit" is inaccurate, "qui que ce soit" is the appropriate version.

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Well, um, I was going to make a tongue in cheek point about how the French think that they basically own the whole of la francophonie but, uh..

Anyway, the principle point is that most Belgiums actually feel Belgian, and afaik there is actually a tendency towards accepting more refederalisation by the Flemmish at the moment; where even segments of CD&V are starting to be open to the idea

Belgium's creation history isn't based on nationalism but based on the English wanting to keep Antverp out of French control. It's 2 completely different areas, one composed by francophones who gives often high scores for socialists and farleftists parties, and the other by dutch speaking who vote in high margins for conservative parties.
The existence of Belgium is literally similar to the previous country of Tchekoslovaquia. I believe the best is to simply split up this realm into 2 areas with both of them choosing to either join France/Netherlands or remaining independent.

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Plenty of countries are artificial creations made to suit elites; which is part of the reason why nationalism is a scourge - but it doesn't mean Belgium is less of a real country than any other

It is less of a real country than others like France, Sweden, Denmark, Finland.

But yes, other countries' borders should have their borders fixed like Iraq for example.

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Typical Belgian problems right now: too many chocolate stores in Bruges, with a renowned chocolatier complaining about the increased competition and non-Belgian chocolate being sold. The liberals, of all parties, now wish to limit the number of chocolate and beer stores targeting tourists.

Hahahaha

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https://www.rtbf.be/info/opinions/detail_la-belgique-peut-disparaitre-par-implosion?id=10240352

"Belgium may disappear by implosion"

Good, hopefully it will disappear. This country never made any sense.

[windjammer]

Who is more supportive of independence? The youth or the old?

[windjammer]

Who is more supportive of independence? The youth or the old?

Youth (although I'm using VB as a proxy)

In Wallonia rattachists are very old.

I mean, let's be honest. In the case of Belgium exploding, Wallonia will certainly not want initially to join France. But that would be still inevitable in the end as this region can't be objectively economically independent and the french constitution allows giving massive autonomy to some region.

[windjammer]

Who is more supportive of independence? The youth or the old?

Youth (although I'm using VB as a proxy)

In Wallonia rattachists are very old.

I mean, let's be honest. In the case of Belgium exploding, Wallonia will certainly not want initially to join France. But that would be still inevitable in the end as this region can't be objectively economically independent and the french constitution allows giving massive autonomy to some region.

You realise there is a microstate on Wallonia's border that is pretty successful right? I think in the current EU set up it's not impossible for Wallonia to be an independent state. They would initially have a 20% budget reduction in case of a split but they'd probably negotiate some insane debt split in their favour with Flanders that compensates that.

Anyway I already explained elsewhere why it would even make more sense for Wallonia to join Germany more than France. But then again I don't know how Walloons would react politically to scission.

Well I think your comment bolded sums up quite my view that Wallonia couldn't remain alone and would have to join France, Germany or an another country.

And as for Luxembourg, this is way different than Wallonia.

[windjammer]

Well I suppose it's a question of time for NVA and Vlams to form outright a coalition in Flanders?

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Is Vlams Belang + NVA have an outright majority, would a coalition happen ?

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Honestly if this country ever desintegrates for good. If I were a flemish I would rather remain independent than joining the netherlands.

They are too different and alone Flanders have more potential to become some huge booming regions.