Congressional Special Elections Results Thread (OLD, PLEASE UNSTICKY)

[Alabama_Indy10]

Republicans All Moore and Strange Voters white Alabamans are bad people.

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Don't forget to take Krazen with you when you pass.

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[136or142]

Final result
Roy Moore: 262,070 54.6%
Luther Strange: 218,036, 45.4%

Strange won the 3 large counties by population as well as the small majority black county of Sumter.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Macon went for Moore 71-29. Jefferson fell back down to earth, going Strange by only 58-42 in the end.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

The Good news is that there are no more of these silly primaries to deal with for the rest of the calendar year. All that remains are two general elections. (11/7 in UT-3 and 12/12 in AL-SEN)

[Comrade Funk]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Dumb people vote for dumb politicians.

[Lord Admirale]

Republicans All Moore and Strange Voters people are bad people.

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[Badger]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

And a problem that you guys need to fix. Democrats kick out terrible incumbents. (Chaka Fattah, Corrine Brown, Bill Jefferson) Republicans re-elect them - even pre-Trump. (Scott DesJarlais, Michael Grimm, Darrell Issa, Sam Brownback)

[Mr. Smith]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

And a problem that you guys need to fix. Democrats kick out terrible incumbents. (Chaka Fattah, Corrine Brown, Bill Jefferson) Republicans re-elect them - even pre-Trump. (Scott DesJarlais, Michael Grimm, Darrell Issa, Sam Brownback)

So why's Steny Hoyer still a factor then?

Do try again.

[Tintrlvr]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

And a problem that you guys need to fix. Democrats kick out terrible incumbents. (Chaka Fattah, Corrine Brown, Bill Jefferson) Republicans re-elect them - even pre-Trump. (Scott DesJarlais, Michael Grimm, Darrell Issa, Sam Brownback)

So why's Steny Hoyer still a factor then?

Do try again.

I'm sure you have some bizarre and arbitrary reason for hating Steny Hoyer, but the point of comparison seems to be non-existent. This isn't about people you personally dislike.

[Badger]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

And a problem that you guys need to fix. Democrats kick out terrible incumbents. (Chaka Fattah, Corrine Brown, Bill Jefferson) Republicans re-elect them - even pre-Trump. (Scott DesJarlais, Michael Grimm, Darrell Issa, Sam Brownback)

So why's Steny Hoyer still a factor then?

Do try again.

I'm sure you have some bizarre and arbitrary reason for hating Steny Hoyer, but the point of comparison seems to be non-existent. This isn't about people you personally dislike.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

This is your party, Republicans

Y'all keep saying that, yet these kind of candidates (Moore, Trump) keep winning.

Yes, that's...that's the problem.

And a problem that you guys need to fix. Democrats kick out terrible incumbents. (Chaka Fattah, Corrine Brown, Bill Jefferson) Republicans re-elect them - even pre-Trump. (Scott DesJarlais, Michael Grimm, Darrell Issa, Sam Brownback)

Oh really?

Democrats didn't ask Bill Jefferson to step down. He got thrown out by the voters. He got a standing ovation from Pelosi and her caucus, after the corruption was revealed. So much for "throwing him out". She ran against corruption to gain the majority, then shielded and protected those in her own caucus who got caught with their hands in the cookie jar.

Charlie Rangel kept running and winning for years, despite multiple scandals.

Bob Menendez was reelected in 2012, despite the current scandal already being public.

Democrats historically have circled the wagons, in many such instances.

[Holmes]

....who do you think were the people that voted out Bill Jefferson

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

OP is updated with basic information on the next election.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

....who do you think were the people that voted out Bill Jefferson

A coalition composed of Republicans, Independents and reasonable Democrats who voted for a rather Liberal Republican in a very low turnout election.

December 2008, LA-02 General Election
Republican   Joseph Cao   33,122   49.6
Democratic   William J. Jefferson   31,296   46.8

Orleans Parish 2008 Presidential:
Barack H. Obama   Joseph R. Biden, Jr.   Democratic   117,102   79.42%
John S. McCain, III   Sarah Palin   Republican   28,130   19.08%

Orleans Parish 2007 Governor:
John Georges   No Party Affiliation   27,370   36.07%
Bobby Jindal   Republican   26,278   34.63%
Walter Boasso   Democratic   15,359   20.24%

Orleans Parish 2003 Governor
Kathleen Babineaux Blanco   Democrat   92,746   68.32%
Bobby Jindal   Republican   43,005   31.68%

The 2008 House elections were delayed in two races because of a Hurricane. LA had abandoned their jungle primary system for a period. So they had the primary in Sept, runoff in Oct and general in November. But the Hurricane forced the two house elections to be pushed back until December 2008.

So it was low turnout "Special" (though it was technically the general election for those seats). Had it occurred in November, I am fairly certain that Jefferson would have won.

And Jefferson's scandal began in late 2005. Yet he was reelected in 2006 57%-42% over another Democrat.

[Badger]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

[smoltchanov]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

No. It could elect Libertarian or even Constitutional party candidate (or another far rightist), but - not a Democrat...

[Brittain33]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

No. It could elect Libertarian or even Constitutional party candidate (or another far rightist), but - not a Democrat...

When has that ever happened?

[GeorgiaModerate]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

No. It could elect Libertarian or even Constitutional party candidate (or another far rightist), but - not a Democrat...

When has that ever happened?

No Libertarian or Constitution Party candidate has been elected to Congress (House or Senate), but it's worth noting that Virgil Goode, the 2012 CP Presidential candidate, won election to the same House seat as a Democrat, then an Independent, then a Republican.

Who was the last member of a true third party elected to Congress?  This excludes independents and one-off parties like Lieberman's.  I'd guess it was Sen. James Buckley (Conservative-NY) elected in 1970, but could be wrong.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

No. It could elect Libertarian or even Constitutional party candidate (or another far rightist), but - not a Democrat...

When has that ever happened?

Republican Ron Packard won as write-in, in what is basically now Darrell Issa's seat in 1982, against a controversial GOP nominee and a Democrat. Of course back then it was like 65%-70% Republican.

The answer is of course no. Just like Jefferson would have won easily in LA-02 in November 2008 (had it not been delayed), such a district would elect the Republican, unless it was a low turnout or off year race.

[smoltchanov]

But if fairness, the scandal hadn't truly blown open until after 06.

Does anyone truly believe a +30 R district would elect a Democrat if the incumbent was involved in such a scandal?

No. It could elect Libertarian or even Constitutional party candidate (or another far rightist), but - not a Democrat...

When has that ever happened?

AFAIK - no, but probability of this is higher then probability of electing Democrat in such district.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

NYT Results Page: https://www.nytimes.com/elections/results/utah-house-special-election

Polls close at 10 EST

[VPH]

I'm curious to see how Bennett does. He's a character alright, and he has the family name.

[An American Tail: Fubart Goes West]

I'm curious to see how Bennett does. He's a character alright, and he has the family name.

That's the only really interesting thing about this race that I can think of.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

WULFRIC PROJECTION: CURTIS WINS

CANDIDATE   PARTY   VOTES   PCT.   
John Curtis
Republican
53,206   59.4%   
Kathie Allen
Democrat
22,547   25.2   
Jim Bennett
UUT
8,202   9.2   
Sean Whalen
Independent
2,265   2.5   
Joe Buchman
Libertarian
1,974   2.2   
Jason Christensen
Independent American
1,304   1.5   
45% reporting (260 of 577 precincts)