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cinyc
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« on: April 09, 2017, 06:02:27 PM »

It's not free, someone has to pay for it.

Pretty weird & ignorant post. When you talk about something being free, you talk about it being free or costing nothing from the perspective of the consumer/buyer.

That is kind of basic & you don't really need a Phd to know what the term "free" means or are people gonna come up with ridiculous new definitions to justify such posts?

There is no such thing as a free lunch - or free college tuition, or free healthcare or free anything.  Somebody has to pay for it. 

If you still don't understand, Google Milton Friedman.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2017, 07:30:31 PM »

Well, an argument could be made about using inherent natural resource wealth to fund X,Y, or Z as a free lunch.  That is basically how Alaska runs its government with a net outflow of funds to its citizens each year, right?  Of course, it's a highly volatile free lunch that could always be worth 3X or 1/3rd as much next year.

There's always an opportunity cost somewhere.  What's to say funding X is better for the economy or society or whatever than funding Y or saving the money for a rainy day or giving the money to the people?  What's to say natural resource wealth wouldn't be better managed by selling it to a private entity outright, who will try to maximize profit (the government has less of a reason to do that)?

So no, there's no such thing as a free lunch, even in your hypothetical.

Here, one can ask, for example, whether it is fair for non-college graduates who add to overall economic wealth - say your proverbial plumber - to subsidize college students taking classes in an economically worthless major, like most of the social sciences.  Is society better off if the plumber had the tax money devoted to this to invest in his business?  And we can ask whether overall tuition will go up for the so-called rich who aren't eligible for this "free" tuition.  Or non-tuition "fees" like room and board or activity fees will rise as a result.  Or if SUNY and CUNY schools won't be able to attract the best professors because there is less money to pay them.  And on and on and on.
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