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« on: April 09, 2017, 09:37:37 PM »

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-national-tour_us_58e6f28be4b0cdad578e7a52?section=politics

This actually sounds pretty awesome and like a great thing, but more likely many here will swear off Sanders over it due to his affiliation with the SUPER EVIL Tom Perez.
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« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2017, 09:46:09 PM »

Bernie continues to allow the establishment to use him as a prop. First Cuomo, then Booker, now Perez. Though I guess we shouldn't expect great moral leadership after he endorsed scumbag Schumer for leadership.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2017, 10:04:11 AM »

But but but Perez is a corporatist establishment DLC sellout!
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2017, 11:10:38 AM »

Bernie continues to allow the establishment to use him as a prop. First Cuomo, then Booker, now Perez. Though I guess we shouldn't expect great moral leadership after he endorsed scumbag Schumer for leadership.

You literally just proved BRTD's point.
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2017, 11:15:33 AM »

Bernie continues to allow the establishment to use him as a prop. First Cuomo, then Booker, now Perez. Though I guess we shouldn't expect great moral leadership after he endorsed scumbag Schumer for leadership.

You literally just proved BRTD's point.

BRTD has no point. Saying "I'm sure people are going to criticize this" does not invalidate said criticism.
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2017, 11:17:39 AM »

Bernie is a pragmatic politician. That much should be obvious. There's a difference between being a sellout and a pragmatist, although some people won't see it that way.
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2017, 11:19:48 AM »

Bernie is a pragmatic politician. That much should be obvious. There's a difference between being a sellout and a pragmatist, although some people won't see it that way.
Seriously I don't think Bernie cares if someone like Cuomo is doing things like free college in order to win his supporters in 2020 over he actually believes in issue as long as this issue gets passed an thus moves the dem party left
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2017, 11:25:11 AM »

Bernie is a pragmatic politician. That much should be obvious. There's a difference between being a sellout and a pragmatist, although some people won't see it that way.
Seriously I don't think Bernie cares if someone like Cuomo is doing things like free college in order to win his supporters in 2020 over he actually believes in issue as long as this issue gets passed an thus moves the dem party left

This. Bernie is probably living it up right now.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2017, 12:10:51 PM »

...the fact that some people are even comparing Perez to Cuomo shows how ridiculous this is.
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2017, 12:13:07 PM »

...the fact that some people are even comparing Perez to Cuomo shows how ridiculous this is.
I wasn't trying to make a comparison I was saying Bernie doesn't care if the intents behind stuff like this is calculated or genuine (I think genuine Perez is liberal) as long as the party starts being more liberal
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2017, 01:30:07 PM »


Bernie continues to allow the establishment to use him as a prop. First Cuomo, then Booker, now Perez. Though I guess we shouldn't expect great moral leadership after he endorsed scumbag Schumer for leadership.

Part of the reason for this is that, now that Warren is considered "establishment" by much of the left, he's really the only person with enough street cred in his wing of the party to be worth holding a "party unity" event with. I mean, holding a rally with Raul Grijalva or Zephyr Teachout and the like might be half way there, but it would probably just lead to more accusations of them being a sellout, rather than a genuine coming-together of different ideologies and strategies.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2017, 02:12:32 PM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2017, 02:46:46 PM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

LOL. Bernie is the most well liked politician in the country.
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2017, 03:23:52 PM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

HP but it's 2017 and we have to move past the dreaded primary.

Take your own advice and grow up.
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2017, 03:36:00 PM »

There's a difference between being a sellout and a pragmatist, although some people won't see it that way.
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2017, 04:12:00 PM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

HP but it's 2017 and we have to move past the dreaded primary.

Take your own advice and grow up.




It's not my fault that someone who was appointed by Schumer to head Democratic outreach has spent hostile to the principles of the party. Saying Trump voters weren't racist/misogynist was the final straw in my forgiveness to Bernie and many of his supporters.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2017, 04:29:14 PM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

HP but it's 2017 and we have to move past the dreaded primary.

Take your own advice and grow up.




It's not my fault that someone who was appointed by Schumer to head Democratic outreach has spent hostile to the principles of the party. Saying Trump voters weren't racist/misogynist was the final straw in my forgiveness to Bernie and many of his supporters.

"Hostile?"  This is a man who has the balls to compete for votes in places Democrats haven't even bothered to in years.  He's done far more for the progressive movement and the Democratic Party in recent memory than any so-called 'real Democrat' has, which is as much of a testament to Bernie's strengths as it is to the failures of the politically irrelevant joke that is the modern Democratic Party.  He is the most popular politician in the country right now and the party would be digging an even deeper hole for itself to throw him under the bus.  Even Chuckles and the other establishment cucks realize that and that is why he was put in charge of outreach.  His job is not to please you.
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2017, 09:27:52 PM »

For the record my point in posting this is to point out that Perez is not the devil incarnate.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2017, 11:42:56 PM »

Wasn't Perez considered the most liberal person in Obama's cabinet?
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2017, 11:50:27 PM »

The hate of Perez is ridiculous.
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2017, 11:53:39 PM »


Remember, if they can't have the prize, nobody can. This is why they're still convinced the primary was rigged.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2017, 12:10:28 AM »

Wasn't Perez considered the most liberal person in Obama's cabinet?

Gomez supports a Single Payer & he is no longer liberal enough in CA-34. Perez has some problems, not just TPP, he is too old school, is for closed primaries, is tied to big money (acc to Sanders' supporters), etc. Overall he is better than most Democrats though.

And Perez is now the DNC Chair, he should be given a fair chance & his work should be evaluated after 2 years!
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2017, 02:17:06 AM »

Wasn't Perez considered the most liberal person in Obama's cabinet?

Hilda Solis was the only liberal ever in Obama's cabinet.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2017, 02:23:31 AM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

HP but it's 2017 and we have to move past the dreaded primary.

Take your own advice and grow up.




It's not my fault that someone who was appointed by Schumer to head Democratic outreach has spent hostile to the principles of the party. Saying Trump voters weren't racist/misogynist was the final straw in my forgiveness to Bernie and many of his supporters.

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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2017, 02:28:16 AM »

Why doesn't Perez planned a tour with Hillary or the real Democratic coalition(WOC)? We literally need to cut this not Democrat out of any future party gatherings. Bernie doing more damage to our party future then many people have realized.

HP but it's 2017 and we have to move past the dreaded primary.

Take your own advice and grow up.




It's not my fault that someone who was appointed by Schumer to head Democratic outreach has spent hostile to the principles of the party. Saying Trump voters weren't racist/misogynist was the final straw in my forgiveness to Bernie and many of his supporters.

"all TRump voters are misogynist racists! Write them off as lost causes!"

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