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« Reply #175 on: September 24, 2017, 07:59:24 PM »

41. George H. W. Bush (R-Texas), 1989-1997
42. Bill Clinton (D-Ark), 1997-2005
43. Al Gore (D-Tenn), 2005-2009
44. George W. Bush (R-Texas), 2009-2017
45. Barack Obama (D-Ill), 2017-present
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« Reply #176 on: September 26, 2017, 04:14:01 PM »

Nixon the Cleveland:

35. Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge (Republican)Sad 1961-1965
36. Lyndon Johnson / Eugene McCarthy (Democratic)Sad 1965-1969
37. Richard Nixon / Nelson Rockefeller (Republican)Sad 1969-1973
38. Nelson Rockefeller / Ronald Reagan (Republican)Sad 1973-1981
39. Edmund Muskie / Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic)Sad 1981-1989
40. Lloyd Bentsen / Michael Dukakis (Democratic)Sad 1989-1993
41. George HW Bush / Jack Kemp (Republican)Sad 1993-2001
42. Jack Kemp / Jim Edgar (Republican)Sad 2001-2005
43. Bill Clinton / Mark Warner (Democratic)Sad 2005-2013
44. Mitt Romney / Eric Cantor (Republican)Sad 2013-2017
45. Jeff Merkley  / Julian Castro (Democratic)Sad 2017-Incumbent
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« Reply #177 on: September 26, 2017, 05:57:49 PM »

Inspo. by the above post

36. Richard Nixon (R-Calif), 1961-1965
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minn), 1965-1969
38. Richard Nixon (R-Calif), 1969-1972R
39. Spiro Agnew (R-Md), 1972-1973
40. Henry M. Jackson (D-Wash), 1973-1981
41. Jimmy Carter (D-Ga), 1981-1989
42. Jack Kemp (R-NY), 1989-1997
43. Al Gore (D-Tenn), 1997-2001
44. George W. Bush (R-Texas), 2001-2009
45. Barack Obama (D-Ill), 2009-2017
46. Donald Trump (R-NY), 2017-present
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« Reply #178 on: September 30, 2017, 09:11:07 PM »

No 22nd amendment:
Dwight Eisenhower/Richard Nixon 1953-1965
Richard Nixon/William Scranton 1965-1969

Robert Kennedy/Scoop Jackson 1969-1973
Richard Nixon/George Romney 1973-1981
Frank Church/Walter Mondale 1981-1993
Bill Weld/Richard Lugar 1993-2005
John Edwards/Joe Biden 2005-2009
Jim DeMint/Joe Scarborough 2009-2017
Donald Trump/Allen West 2017-20??
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« Reply #179 on: September 30, 2017, 11:48:26 PM »

Iran-Contra takes down Bush in the general and Jackson does not run in 88.

Al Gore - 1989-1993 defeats Bush HW
Bob Dole - 1993-1997 defeats Al Gore
Bill Clinton - 1997-2005 defeats Bob Dole and Bush W
John McCain - 2005-2013 defeats Dean and Obama
Hillary Clinton - 2013-2017 Defeats Santorum
Donald Trump - 2017-2021 defeats Clinton
Al Gore - 2021-2025 defeats Trump

Generally a set of presidencies to the left on most fronts, especially the environment, but the right wing swings hard right after McCain is too "liberal" and Obama and Clinton run in 2008 in 2012.
Presidencies:

Gore: 41
Dole: 42
Clinton: 43
McCain: 44
Clinton: 45
Trump: 46
Gore: 47

Someone born 15 months before Al Gore announced his winning campaign in 1987 could be eligible the be his successor in this timeline.

Bushes do get the short end in this timeline, but oh well.
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« Reply #180 on: October 03, 2017, 06:57:39 PM »

2021-2029: Ron Wyden(D-OR)/Henry Cuellar(D-TX)
2029-2037: Gov. Elise Stefanik(R-NY)/Sen. George P. Bush(R-TX)
2037-2045: Sen. Dan Koh(D-MA)/Gov. Adlai Stevenson V(D-IL)
2045-2053: Gov. James Sandoval(R-NV)/Former NYC Mayor Barron Trump(R-NY)
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« Reply #181 on: October 04, 2017, 11:11:51 AM »

A Glorious Revolution

Richard Nixon/George H. W. Bush:  1969-1974
George H. W. Bush/Spiro Agnew:  1974-1977
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale:  1977-1981
Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford:  1981-1989
Gerald Ford/Jack Kemp:  1989-1993
Jerry Brown/Bill Clinton:  1993-2001
Ross Perot/Donald Trump:  2001-2005
Howard Dean/Evan Bayh: 2005-2013
Willard Mitt Romney/Mike Huckabee: 2013-Present
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« Reply #182 on: October 04, 2017, 01:43:43 PM »

The Unthinkable Has Happened:

40. Ronald Reagan / George HW Bush (Republican)Sad 1981-1985
41. Walter Mondale / Geraldine Ferraro (Democratic)Sad 1985-1989
      Walter Mondale / Michael Dukakis (Democratic)Sad 1989-1993
42. Bob Dole / Jack Kemp (Republican)Sad 1993-2001
43. Jack Kemp / John McCain (Republican)Sad 2001-2005
44. Joe Biden / Bill Richardson (Democratic)Sad 2005-2013
45. Tim Pawlenty / Sam Brownback (Republican)Sad 2013-Incumbent

Defeated Tickets:

1984: Ronald Reagan / George HW Bush (Republican)
1988: George HW Bush / Carroll Campbell (Republican)
1992: Michael Dukakis / Bill Clinton (Democratic)
1996: Al Gore / Douglas Wilder (Democratic)
2000: Paul Wellstone / Bob Graham (Democratic)
2004: Jack Kemp / John McCain (Republican)
2008: John McCain / George Allen (Republican)
2012: Bill Richardson / Evan Bayh (Democratic)
2016: Martin O'Malley / Patty Murray (Democratic)
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« Reply #183 on: October 12, 2017, 04:01:11 PM »

Presidents of the United States of America

45. Donald J. Trump, Republican, New York, January 20, 2017 - January 20, 2025
46. Michael R. Pence, Republican, Indiana, January 20, 2025 - January 20, 2033

Prime Minister of California

1. Kamala Harris, California Independence, May 1, 2022 - April 30, 2027

Prime Minister of the Pacific States of America

1. Tina Orwall, Western Unification, Washington, May 1, 2027 - April 30, 2031

Republican Party
Democratic Party
Californian Independence Party
Western Unification Party

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VP Michael R. Pence (R-IN) / Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) - 259 EV, 48.2% PV
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) / Gov. Michelle Grisham (D-NM), 224 EV, 49.1% PV

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Pres. Michael R. Pence (R-IN) / VP Tom Cotton (R-AR) - 249 EV, 50.1%
Gov. Jason Kander (D-MO) / Sen. Donald Norcross (D-NJ) -211 EV, 48.9%
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« Reply #184 on: October 12, 2017, 05:04:08 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic, New York) 1933 - 1945 †
33. Henry Agard Wallace (Democratic, Iowa) 1945 - 1949
34. Thomas Edmund Dewey (Republican, New York) 1949 - 1957
35. Richard Milhous Nixon (Republican, California) 1957 - 1965
36. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic, Minnesota) 1965 - 1969
37. George Wilcken Romney (Republican, Michigan) 1969 - 1970 *
38. Robert Joseph Dole (Republican, Kansas) 1970 - 1973
39. Birch Evans Bayh II (Democratic, Indiana) 1973 - 1981
40. Frank Forrester Church III (Democratic, Idaho) 1981 - 1984 †
41. Samuel Augustus Nunn Jr. (Democratic, Georgia) 1984 - 1989
42. Lamar Alexander (Republican, Tennessee) 1989 - 1997
43. Richard Bruce Cheney (Republican, Wyoming) 1997 - 2005
44. Lindsey Olin Graham (Republican, South Carolina) 2005 - 2009
45. Howard Brush Dean III (Democratic, Vermont) 2009 - 2017
46. Barack Hussein Obama II (Democratic, Hawaii) 2017 - incumbent

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« Reply #185 on: October 12, 2017, 10:33:19 PM »

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« Reply #186 on: October 12, 2017, 11:47:58 PM »

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« Reply #187 on: October 17, 2017, 02:50:19 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2017, 02:57:17 PM by Prime Minister Truman »

PRESIDENTS of the HARTFORD CONFEDERACY
1. Timothy Pickering (High Federalist, Massachusetts) 1815 - 1821
2. Josiah Quincy III (High Federalist, Massachusetts) 1821 - 1824
3. Harrison Gray Otis (High Federalist, Massachusetts) 1824 - 1830
4. Edward Everett (Moderate, Massachusetts) 1830 - 1833
5. Levi Woodbury (National Democratic, New Hampshire) 1833 - 1839
6. John Ruggles (National Democratic, Maine) 1839 - 1842
7. Daniel Webster (Federal, Massachusetts) 1842 - 1848
–. Levi Woodbury (National Democratic, New Hampshire) 1848 - 1851 †
Act. George Nixon Briggs (Federal, Massachusetts) 1851 - 1851
8. Marcus Morton (National Democratic, Massachusetts) 1851 - 1854
9. Elijah Hamlin (Federal, Maine) 1854 - 1860
10. Elihu Benjamin Washburn (Federal, Maine) 1860 - 1863
11. Benjamin Franklin Butler (National Democratic, Massachusetts) 1863 - 1866
12. Charles Francis Adams Sr. (Federal, Massachusetts) 1866 - 1869
13. George Seward Boutwell (Federal, Massachusetts) 1869 - 1872
14. Richard Dudley Hubbard (National Democratic—Liberal, Connecticut) 1872 - 1875
—. Charles Francis Adams Sr. (Liberal, Massachusetts) 1875 - 1879
15. James Gillespie Blaine (Conservative, Maine) 1879 - 1882
16. James Adams Weston (Conservative, New Hampshire) 1882 - 1885
17. William Eustis Russell (Liberal, Massachusetts) 1885 - 1891
18. Henry Brooks Adams (Liberal, Massachusetts) 1891 - 1894
19. Edwin Chick Burleigh (Conservative, Maine) 1894 - 1900
20. Henry Cabot Lodge Sr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1900 - 1903
21. George Herbert Utter (Conservative, Rhode Island) 1903 - 1909
—. Henry Cabot Lodge Sr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1909 - 1917 †
Act. Porter Hinman Dale (Conservative, Vermont) 1917 - 1918
22. John Calvin Coolidge Jr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1918 - 1921
23. William Smith Flynn (Progressive, Rhode Island) 1921 - 1929
24. Channing Harris Cox (Progressive, Massachusetts) 1929 - 1932
25. John Harper Trumbull (Conservative, Connecticut) 1932 - 1938
26. Channing Harris Cox (Progressive, Massachusetts) 1938 - 1941
27. Robert Augustine Hurley (Progressive, Connecticut) 1941 - 1947
28. Wallace Humphrey White Jr. (Conservative, Maine) 1947 - 1952 †
Act. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1952 - 1953
29. Joseph Patrick Kennedy Sr. (Progressive, Massachusetts) 1953 - 1956
30. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1956 - 1962
31. Winston Lewis Prouty (Conservative, Vermont) 1962 - 1965
32. Thomas James McIntyre (Progressive, New Hampshire) 1965 - 1971
33. Edmund Sixtus Muskie (Progressive, Maine) 1971 - 1977
34. Lowell Palmer Weicker Jr. (Conservative, Connecticut) 1977 - 1983
35. James Merrill Jeffords (Conservative, Vermont) 1983 - 1989
36. Edward Moore Kennedy (Progressive, Massachusetts) 1989 - 1994
37. William Floyd Weld (Conservative, Massachusetts) 1994 - 2000
38. Olympia Jean Snowe (Conservative, Maine) 2000 - 2006
39. John Forbes Kerry (Progressive, Massachusetts) 2006 - 2009
40. Lincoln Davenport Chaffee (Conservative, Rhode Island) 2009 - 2012
41. Elizabeth Ann Warren (Progressive, Massachusetts) 2012 - incumbent

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« Reply #188 on: October 19, 2017, 08:09:43 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2017, 09:03:16 AM by West_Midlander »

Republic of California
*Hoover and Reagan never reside in California ITTL.
Presidente de Alte California
1. Josι Castro - Independent (1836)
2. Juan Bautista Alvarado - Independent (1836-1842)
Mexican Governor (Statehood)
Manuel Micheltorena - Independent (1842-1845)
Presidente de Alte California
3. Pνo Pico - Independent (1845-1846)
President of California
4. John Drake Sloat - Independent (1846-1847)
5. Robert F. Stockton - (U.S.) Democratic (1847)
President of California/Presidente de California
6. John McDougall - Democratic (1847-1855)
7. J. Neely Johnson - Californian (1855-1860)
8. Leland Stanford - Populist (1860-1865)
9. Frederick Ferdinand Low - Populist (1865-1870)

10. Henry Huntly Haight - Conservative (1870-1878)
11. James Thompson Farley - Conservative (1878-1880)
12. Denis Kearney - Workingmen (1880-1890)
13. James Budd - Conservative (1890-1900)
14. George Cooper Pardee - Populist (1900-1901)
15. Thomas R. Bard - Populist (1901-1905)
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Notes: Castro is the Acting President of California (leader of the rebellion) follow its rebellion from Mexico. Alvarado is democratically elected and Castro is pressured to resign and allow Alvarado to take office. Alvarado is deposed by Mexican forces and replaced by Governor Micheltorena. Acting President Pico emerges and forms the nation again. Pico decides to seek US assistance to secure its sovereignty. He resigns in favor of a US-chosen "President" Sloat. Sloat is removed by Washington and replaced with Stockton. The office of President of California begins to look more like a state governorship. Californians depose Stockton in the chaos of the Mexican-American war, favoring nationhood, not statehood. Elections in California for President were held in 1836 and were not held again until 1850. From 1850 onwards five-year terms were permitted were no term limits. In 1878, President Haight died and was replaced by Vice President Farley. California existed under threat of US invasion from the 1840s to 1860. When California came to the United State's aid in the American Civil War, the US decided to recognize its nationhood. President Pardee was assassinated in 1901 and replaced with Vice President Bard.
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« Reply #189 on: October 19, 2017, 09:31:13 AM »
« Edited: October 19, 2017, 07:09:54 PM by West_Midlander »

Republic of California
President of California/Presidente de California
16. James Gillett - Populist (1905-1910)
17. Jackson Stitt Wilson - Socialist (1910-1925)
18. Friend Richardson - Populist (1925-1930)
19. Culbert Olson - Conservative (1930-1942)
20. Sheridan Downey - Conservative (1942-1945)
21. Pat Brown - Liberal (1945-1955)
22. Richard Nixon - Californian (1955-1960)
23. Richard P. Graves - Liberal (1960-1965)
24. Jesse M. Unruh - Liberal (1965-1970)
25. Richard Nixon - Conservative (1970-1974)
26. Houston I. Flournoy - Conservative (1974-1975)
Acting: Leo T. McCarthy - Liberal (1975)
27. Jerry Brown - Liberal (1975-1985)
28. Dianne Feinstein - Liberal (1985-1990)
29. Pete Wilson - Conservative (1990-2000)
30. Gray Davis - Liberal (2000-2005)
31. Peter Camejo - Green (2005-2010)
32. Arnold Schwarzenegger - Independent (2010-2020)
33. Maxine Waters - Liberal (2020-2025)
34. Kevin de Leσn - Liberal (2025-Incumbent)


*The Republic of California has no requirement for the President to be Californian-born ITTL.

President Richardson loses in a historic landslide in 1930 following the global depression started in the United States. Culbert Olson declares war on the Empire of Japan and the German Third Reich after the attack on the American port of Pearl Harbor, citing the "unwarranted aggression of a major threat to world peace [referring to the Empire of Japan]." President Olson is assassinated in 1942 by fascist sympathizers. President Nixon has to resign under the threat of impeachment due to a Watergate-like scandal. Former Vice President, now President Flournoy gives a full pardon to Former President Nixon. President Flournoy is impeached for pardoning Nixon and for collusion with Nixon but the California Senate falls five votes short of a conviction. Impeachment is tried again and the Senate results in a tie. Vice President Evelle J. Younger is expected to break the tie in the President's favor but he votes for conviction. President Flournoy is removed from office and the Supreme Court of California overturns his pardon of Nixon. Vice President Younger calls for elections to be held earlier than scheduled and resigns the Office of Vice President before being sworn in as President of the Republic of California. Speaker of the California House of Representatives, Leo McCarthy, is Acting President of California until an election is held. In the 2000s, President Davis supports the Iraq War. When the Liberals renominate Davis in 2005, liberals and progressives flee to Camejo's camp, eventually electing him that year. Camejo's popularity plummets following the Great Recession and he does not pursue re-election in 2010.

*Walter Judd is Vice President under Eisenhower. Cecil H. Underwood is the Republican nominee in 1960, he loses to JFK by a larger margin than Nixon. In 1968, Rockefeller/Reagan wins by a larger margin than Nixon '68. Rockefeller defeats McGovern in 1972. In 1975, Rockefeller steps down to prevent a Democratic flip of the governorship in his home state of New York (runs for the office in 1974). President Reagan takes office a day after the two year mark of Rockefeller's second term allowing Reagan a total of nearly ten years in office when he serves as President from 1975-1977 and 1981-1989. Reagan, smelling a Republican loss in 1976 decides not to run. Ford wins the nomination and narrowly loses to Carter. Reagan becomes an activist for conservative causes, building a sturdy base for even larger 1980 and 1984 landslides than in OTL.
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« Reply #190 on: October 19, 2017, 12:33:43 PM »

Becerra or de Leon would probably work better for 2020, considering they won't be in their 80s.
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« Reply #191 on: October 19, 2017, 03:16:09 PM »

Another Californian is elected President in 1968:

37. Ronald Reagan / John Volpe (Republican)Sad 1969-1973
38. Edmund Muskie / Stuart Symington (Democratic)Sad 1973-1981
39. Howard Baker / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)Sad 1981-1989
40. Donald Rumsfeld / Paul Laxalt (Republican)Sad 1989-1993
41. Jerry Brown / Paul Tsongas (Democratic)Sad 1993-1997
42. John McCain / Tom Ridge (Republican)Sad 1997-2005
43. Howard Dean / Bob Graham (Democratic)Sad 2005-2013
44. John Huntsman / Lindsey Graham (Republican)Sad 2013-2021
45. Sherrod Brown / Deval Patrick (Democratic)Sad 2021-2029
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« Reply #192 on: October 23, 2017, 06:22:32 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
36. Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democratic, Texas) 1963 - 1969
37. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic, Minnesota) 1969 - 1972 †
38. Edmund Sixtus Muskie (Democratic, Maine) 1972 - 1972 *
39. Carl Bert Albert (Democratic, Oklahoma) 1972 - 1981
40. Robert Joseph Dole (Republican, Kansas) 1981 - 1989
41. Albert Arnold Gore Jr. (Democratic, Tennessee) 1989 - 1997
42. Edmund Gerry Brown (Democratic, California) 1997 - 2001
43. John Sidney McCain III (Republican, Arizona) 2001 - 2009
44. Johnny Reid Edwards (Democratic, North Carolina) 2009 - 2013
45. Willard Mitt Romney (Republican, Massachusetts) 2013 - incumbent

† Assassinated          * Fatally wounded, died three days into office
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« Reply #193 on: October 24, 2017, 12:17:22 PM »

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1913-1921: Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ)/Thomas Marshall (D-IN)
1912: def. Theodore Roosevelt (Liberal-NY)/Hiram Johnson (Liberal-CA), William Taft (R-OH)/Nicholas Butler (R-NY), Eugene Debs (Socialist-IN)/Emil Siedel (Socialist-WI)
1916: def. Charles Hughes (R-NY)/Charles Fairbanks (R-IN), Theodore Roosevelt (L-NY)/Joseph Carey (L-WY), Emil Siedel (S-WI)/Allan Benson (S-NY)

1921-1923: Warren G. Harding (R-OH)/Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)
1920: def. James Cox (D-OH)/Robert Latham Owen (D-OK), Joseph M. Carey (L-WY)/Walter Chandler (L-NY), Samuel A. DeWitt (S-NY)/William F. Kruse (S-IL)
1923-1929: Calvin Coolidge (R-MA)/Charles Dawes (R-OH)
1924: def. Robert M. La Follette Sr. (L-WI)/Burton K. Wheeler (L-MT)*, John W. Davis (D-WV)/Charles W. Bryan (D-NE)
1929-1933: Herbert Hoover (R-CA)/Charles Curtis (R-KS)
1928: def. Al Smith (D-NY)/Joseph T. Robinson (D-AR), Robert M. La Follette Jr. (L-WI)/Franklin D. Roosevelt (L-NY)
1933-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt (L-NY)/Raymond L. Haight (L-CA, 1933-1941), Franck R. Havenner (L-CA, 1941-1945)
1932: def. John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Harry Byrd (D-VA), Herbert Hoover (R-CA)/Charles Curtis (R-KS), Norman Thomas (S-NY)/James Maurer (S-PA)
1936: def. Alf Landon (R-KS)/Frank Knox (R-IL), John Nance Garner (D-TX)/Henry Skillman Breckinridge (D-NY), Huey Long (Share our Wealth-LA)/William Lemke (Share Our Wealth-ND), Norman Thomas (S-NY)/George Nelson (S-WI)
1940: def. Wendell Willkie (R-NY)/Charles L. McNary (R-OR), Harry Byrd (D-VA)/Happy Chandler (D-KY), Charles Coughlin (SoW-MI)/William Lemke (SoW-ND), Norman Thomas (S-NY)/Maynard Krueger (S-IL)
1944: def. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Harold Stassen (R-MN), Chauncey Sparks (D-AL)/J. William Fulbright (D-AR), Charles Coughlin (SoW-MI)/Norman Thomas (S-NY)

1945-1949: Franck R. Havenner (L-CA)/Robert M. La Follette Jr. (L-WI)
1949-1953: Robert M. La Follette Jr. (L-WI)/Culbert Olson (L-CA)
1948: def. Thomas Dewey (R-NY)/Earl Warren (R-CA), Strom Thurmond (D-SC)/Fielding Wright (D-MS), Glen Taylor (Justice-ID)/Norman Thomas (Justice-NY)
1953-1960: Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/Richard Nixon (R-CA)
1952: def. Culbert Olson (L-CA)/Adlai Stevenson (L-IL), John Sparkman (D-AL)/Estes Kefauver (D-TN), Douglas MacArthur (American-NY)/Joseph McCarthy (American-WI), Darlington Hoopes (J-PA)/Samuel Friedman (J-NY)
1956: def. Happy Chandler (D-KY)/Albert Gore, Sr. (D-TN), Adlai Stevenson (L-IL)/John F. Kennedy (L-MA), Douglas MacArthur (A-NY)/Joseph McCarthy (A-WI), Darlington Hoopes (J-PA)/Samuel Friedman (J-NY)

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy (L-MA)/Hubert Humphrey (L-MN)
1960: def. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA), Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/George Smathers (D-TX), Barry Goldwater (A-AZ)/Robert Taft Jr. (A-OH), Eugene McCarthy (J-MN)/Eric Hass (J-NY)
1963-1969: Hubert Humphrey (L-MN)/Lyndon Johnson (D/L-TX)**
1964: def. Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)/Hiram Fong (R-HI), George Wallace (Ind. Dem.-AL)/Wally Barron (Ind. Dem.-WV), Barry Goldwater (A-AZ)/William Miller (A-NY), Eugene McCarthy (J-MN)/Eric Hass (J-NY)
1969-1974: Richard Nixon (R-CA)/George Romney (R-MI)
1968: def. George Wallace (D-AL)/Curtis LeMay (D-CA), Lyndon Johnson (L-TX)/Edmund Muskie (L-ME), William F. Buckley, Jr. (A-NY)/Roy Cohn (A-"WI"), Eric Hass (J-NY)/Mack Reynolds (J-CA)
1972: def. Lester Maddox (D-GA)/George Wallace (D-GA), Edmund Muskie (L-ME)/Shirley Chisholm (L-NY), George McGovern (J-SD)/Eugene McCarthy (J-MN), John Ashbrook (A-OH)/Roger MacBride (A-VT)

1974-1977: George Romney (R-MI)/Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY)
1977-1985: Ronald Reagan (A-CA)/Spiro Agnew (A-MD)
1976: def. George Romney (R-MI)/Jimmy Carter (R-GA), Walter Mondale (L-MN)/Henry "Scoop" Jackson (L-WA), Robert Byrd (D-WV)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX), Jerry Brown (J-CA)/Walter Fauntroy (J-DC)
1980: def. Edward Kennedy (L-MA)/William Proxmire (L-WI), John Heinz (R-PA)/Gerald Ford (R-MI), Cliff Finch (D-MS)/Harry Byrd (D-VA), John Anderson (Civic Union-IL)/Patrick Lucey (Civic Union-WI), Walter Fauntroy (J-DC)/David McReynolds (J-NY)

1985-1993: Jeane Kirkpatrick (A-NY)/Ernest Hollings (D-SC)
1984: def. Walter Mondale (L-MN)/Geraldine Ferraro (L-NY), John Anderson (CU-IL)/Lowell Weicker (CU-CT), George McGovern (J-SD)/Bernie Sanders (J-VT), Elliot Richardson (R-MA)/Harold Stassen (R-MN)
1988: def. Michael Dukakis (L-MA)/Jesse Jackson (J-IL), Al Gore (R-TN)/Lynn Martin (R-IL), Pierre duPont (CU-DE)/John Danforth (CU-MO)

1993-2001: Bill Clinton (R-AR)/Douglas Wilder (L-VA)
1992: def. Ernest Hollings (D-SC)/Dan Quayle (D-IN), Ross Perot (CU-TX)/James Stockdale (CU-CA), Pat Buchanan (A-VA)/Donald Rumsfeld (A-IL), Jesse Jackson (J-IL)/Ralph Nader (J-CT), David Duke (America First-LA)/Jack Fellure (AF-WV)
1996: def. Ross Perot (CU-TX)/Arlen Specter (CU-PA), Steve Forbes (D-NJ)/Dick Cheney (D-WY), Ralph Nader (J-CT)/Winona LaDuke (J-CA), Bob Dornan (A-CA)/Alan Keyes (AF-MD)

2001-2009: George W. Bush (D-TX)/Bob Smith (A-NH)
2000: def. Richard Gephardt (R-MO)/John Kerry (L-MA), Arlen Specter (CU-PA)/Richard Lugar (CU-IN), Ralph Nader (J-CT)/Winona LaDuke (J-MN), Alan Keyes (AF-MD)/Pat Buchanan (Independent-VA)
2004: def. John Kerry (American Union-L-MA)/John Edwards (American Union-R-NC), John Danforth (CU-MO)/Joe Lieberman (CU-CT), Ralph Nader (J-CT)/Rev. Al Sharpton (J-NY), Chuck Baldwin (AF-FL)/Michael Peroutka (AF-MD)

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2016: def. Hillary Clinton (AU-R-NY)/Elizabeth Warren (AU-L-MA), John Kasich (CU-OH)/John Hickenlooper (CU-CO), Gary Johnson (AL-NM)/William Weld (AL/CU-MA)
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« Reply #194 on: October 26, 2017, 03:18:16 PM »

Inspo by a list I saw somewhere else that had Perkins as president (can't find it atm but it's out there somewhere)

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic-N.Y.) 1933-1945†
33. Frances Perkins (Dem-Maine) 1945-1957
34. Richard M. Nixon (Republican-Calif.) 1957-1965
35. Hubert H. Humphrey (Dem-Minn.) 1965-1968A
36. John F. Kennedy (Dem-Mass.) 1968-1977
37. Ronald Reagan (Rep-Calif.) 1977-1981
38. Jimmy Carter (Dem-Ga.) 1981-1989
39. Bill Clinton (Dem-Ark.) 1989-1993
40. H. Ross Perot (Reform-Texas) 1993-1997
41. Bill Clinton (Dem-Ark.) 1997-2001
42. Donald J. Trump (Ref-N.Y.) 2001-2005
43. Bill Clinton (Dem-Ark.) 2005-2009
44. Kamala Harris (Social Democratic-Calif.) 2009-present
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« Reply #195 on: October 27, 2017, 12:25:51 AM »

The Scenario:

In 1982, young businessman Donald John Trump makes a bid for Governor of New York. A registered Democrat, he runs as a populist with emphasis on creating jobs and is center-left on social issues. Trump narrowly defeats New York Lieutenant Governor Mario Cuomo and New York City Mayor Ed Koch with 39% of the vote. He goes on to win a 14-point victory in the general election, aided by support from many Republicans and independents.

In 1988, Trump enters the Democratic primaries for President and becomes the nominee at a contested convention, picking Governor of Arkansas Bill Clinton as his running mate.

Initially trailing in polls, the Trump-Clinton ticket wins a surprise narrow victory over Vice President George H. W. Bush and Dan Quayle.

41. Donald Trump (Dem-New York) 1989–1997 VP: Bill Clinton
42. Bill Clinton (Dem-Arkansas) 1997–1999* VP: Tom Harkin
43. Tom Harkin (Dem-Iowa) 1999–2001 VP: Kent Conrad
44. Lowell P. Weicker (Ref-Connecticut) 2001–2005 VP: Ben Nighthorse Campbell
45. Colin Powell (Rep-Virginia) 2005–2013 VP: John McCain
46. Newt Gingrich (Rep-Georgia) 2013–2017 VP: Allen West
47. Bernie Sanders (Dem-Vermont) 2017–present VP: Nina Turner

* – Resigned, facing probable impeachment

Elections (Selected)

1988
Donald Trump (D-New York) and Bill Clinton (D-Arkansas) – 294
George H. W. Bush (R-Texas) and Dan Quayle (R-Indiana) – 244


2000
Lowell P. Weicker (Ref-Connecticut) and Ben Nighthorse Campbell (Ref-Colorado) – 286
Lamar Alexander (R-Tennessee) and Jon Kyl (R-Arizona) – 142
Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) and Kent Conrad (D-North Dakota) – 110


2016
Bernie Sanders (D-Vermont) and Nina Turner (D-Ohio) – 370
Newt Gingrich (R-Georgia) and Allen West (R-Florida) – 157
Gary Johnson (L-New Mexico) and Bill Weld (L-Massachusetts) – 11
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« Reply #196 on: October 27, 2017, 04:34:00 PM »

32. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)Sad 1933-1944 [1]
33. Henry A. Wallace (Democratic)Sad 1944-1945
34. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican)Sad 1945-1953
35. Carey Estes Kefauver (Democratic)Sad 1953-1961
36. Richard M. Nixon (Republican)Sad 1961-1969
37. John F. Kennedy (Democratic)Sad 1969-1974  [2]
38. Henry M. "Scoop" Jackson (Democratic)Sad 1974-1977
39. John B. Anderson(Republican)Sad 1977-1981
40. Robert F. Kennedy (Democratic)Sad 1981-1989
41. Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown (Democratic)Sad 1989-1993
42. Robert J. Dole (Republican)Sad 1993-2001
43. John S. McCain III (Republican)Sad 2001-2005
44. James G. Janos (Known as Jesse Ventura) (Independent)Sad 2005-2009
45. Johnny R. "John" Edwards (Democratic)Sad 2009-2013
46. Willard Mitt Romney (Republican)Sad 2013-2021
47. Jeffery A. "Jeff" Merkley (Democratic)Sad 2021-Incumbent

[1]= Died of a Cerebral Hemorrhage January 1944
[2]= Died from Complications from Addison's Disease February 1974

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« Reply #197 on: October 27, 2017, 08:04:16 PM »

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
28. Thomas Woodrow Wilson (Democratic, New Jersey) 1913 - 1919 ͺ
29. Thomas Riley Marshall (Democratic, Indiana) 1919 - 1921 ͺ
30. Warren Gamaliel Harding (Republican, Ohio) 1921 - 1923 †
31. John Calvin Coolidge (Republican, Massachusetts) 1923 - 1925 ˚
32. Frank Orren Lowden (Republican, Illinois) 1925 - 1929 *
33. William Gibbs McAdoo (Democratic, California) 1929 - 1933 *
34. Norman Matoon Thomas (Socialist, California) 1933 - 1933 ^

PRESIDENTS of the PROVISIONAL GOVERNMENT
1. Douglass MacArthur (Military, Arkansas) 1933 - 1936

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED STATES
35. Douglas MacArthur (Military, Arkansas) 1936 - 1964 †
37. Curtis Emerson LeMay (Military, Ohio) 1964 - 1968 §

PRESIDENT of the TRANSITIONAL GOVERNMENT
1. Hubert Horatio Humphrey (Democratic Alliance, Minnesota) 1968 - 1969

PRESIDENTS of the UNITED °
38. Martin Luther King Jr. (Socialist, Alabama) 1969 - 1975
39. Birch Evans Bayh II (Democratic Alliance, Indiana) 1975 - 1981
40. Walter Frederick Mondale (Democratic Alliance, Minnesota) 1981 - 1987
41. Patrick Joseph Buchanan (Christian Democratic, Virginia) 1987 - 1993
42. John Robert Lewis (Progress, Georgia) 1993 - 1999
43. Richard Bruce Cheney (American—Christian Democratic, Wyoming) 1999 - 2005
44. Hillary Dianne Rodham (Progress, Illinois) 2005 - 2011
45. Keith Maurice Ellison (Progress, Minnesota) 2011 - 2017
46. Willard Mitt Romney (Democrats, Michigan) 2017 - incumbent

ͺ Wilson suffered a debilitating stroke late in the autumn of 1919 and was succeeded by Vice President Marshall, who became Acting President upon passage of a Joint Congressional Resolution to that effect. Wilson's subsequent death in February 1920 elevated Marshall as the 29th President of the United States.

† Died in office of natural causes     ˚ Retired voluntarily     * Defeated for reelection     ^ Deposed by military coup
§ Overthrown by the Revolution of 1968     ° The Constitution of 1968 limits the president to a single, 6 year term
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« Reply #198 on: October 28, 2017, 12:23:55 AM »

Presidents of the United States of America
32. Franklin Delano Roosevelt (Democratic-New York) 1933–1937
33. Huey Long (Populist-Louisiana) 1937–1940*

Protectors of the State
1. Douglas MacArthur (Military/National Renewal League-Arkansas) 1940–1942**
2. J. Edgar Hoover (National Renewal League-Washington, D.C.) 1942–1950
3. Joseph McCarthy (National Renewal League-Wisconsin) 1950–1957†
4. Robert W. Welch Jr. (National Renewal League-Massachusetts) 1957–1960
5. Fred C. Koch (National Renewal League-Kansas) 1960–1967†
6. George Wallace (National Renewal League-Alabama) 1967–1971

Presidents of the United States
(For numbering purposes the Protectors of the State are also counted as the 34th, 35th, 36th, 37th, 38th, and 39th Presidents)
40. George McGovern (New Populist-South Dakota) 1971–1981
41. Martin Luther King Jr. (New Populist-Georgia) 1981–1989
42. Tom Harkin (New Populist-Iowa) 1989–1997
43. Ralph Nader (New Populist-Connecticut) 1997–2001
44. Mike Gravel (New Populist-Alaska) 2001–2009
45. Susan Collins (Center-Maine) 2009–2013
46. Dennis Kucinich (New Populist-Ohio) 2013–present

* – Deposed and assassinated
** – Resigned
† Died in office

In 1936, Senator Huey Long ran on a third-party ticket, surprisingly defeating President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1940, being seen as a socialist, he was deposed and assassinated by a group known as the "National Renewal League", a pseudo-fascist organization with the aim of turning America into a one-party state. This group was successful and installed General Douglas MacArthur as figurehead to gain popular support. MacArthur resigned in 1942 due to corruption in the administration and the dictatorial turn, and was succeeded by one of the masterminds of the plot, FBI Director and Secretary of Security and Intelligence J. Edgar Hoover. While the U.S. originally was neutral and was courted by Germany for membership in the Axis, after the bombing of Pearl Harbor in 1941 the country entered on the side of the British and French ending in an Allied victory in 1945.

The National Renewal League continued authoritarian rule until the 1970s, suppressing dissent and those it saw as socialists or communist-aligned, including many civil rights activists such as Martin Luther King Jr., who was imprisoned from 1961 until 1970.

However, the American economy continued to decline and unemployment was 15% by 1965. Radical left-wing groups sprung up all around the country, many by youth, and fearing a coup, the new Protector of the State George Wallace, seen by many as a reformer, allowed a democratic election to take place in 1970, which was overwhelmingly won by the New Populist Party, named after the Populist Party of 1936–40. New Populist candidate George McGovern was elected president, as well as in the regularly scheduled elections of 1972 and 1976. McGovern retired in 1980 and was succeeded by Martin Luther King Jr., who had been released by Wallace in December 1970, shortly before his term in office ended. Since 1972, New Populists have won every presidential election except 2008.
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« Reply #199 on: October 28, 2017, 01:44:36 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2017, 05:29:34 PM by Commiela🌹 »

American First Republic
Presidents of the Continental Convention
"Royalty is abolished in these Colonies"
1. John Adams (Conservative - Massachusetts) 1776-1778
2. John Hancock (Conservative - Massachusetts) 1778-1780*
"The Reign of Terror"
3. Benjamin Franklin (Appalachian - Pennsylvania) 1780-1781
4. Thomas Jefferson (Appalachian - Virginia) 1781
5. Patrick Henry (Appalachian - Virginia) 1781
6. Benjamin Franklin (Appalachian - Pennsylvania) 1781-1782**
"Julian Reaction"
7. Josiah Bartlett (Potomique - New Hampshire) 1782
8. Richard Henry Lee (Potomique - Virginia) 1782
9. John Jay (Potomique - New York) 1782-1783
10. Roger Sherman (Potomique - Connecticut) 1783
Rule of the National Directory 1783-1787
"Coup of 8 November"
American Consulate
11. First Consul: George Washington (Independent - Virginia) 1787-1792
          12. Second Consul: Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de Lafayette (Independent - Massachusetts) 1787-1792
                     13. Third Consul: Alexander Hamilton (Independent - New York) 1787-1792

American First Empire
Emperors of the American Empire
House of Washington
14. George I 1792-1797***, 1797-1798
15. George II 1798

The Hanoverian Restoration
Kings of the United Kingdom, Ireland, and the Americas
House of Hanover
16. George III 1799-1814
      Regent: George IV 1810-1814
"The July Revolution - The Three Glories"

The July Monarchy
Kings of the Americans
House of Mecklenburg-Strelitz
17. William I 1814-1832
"The February Revolution"

To be continued!
 
* Assassinated by Sarah Franklin Bache, daughter of Benjamin Franklin
** Executed by being thrown in the Schuylkill River, tied with weights at his ankles.
*** Exiled to Bermuda, escapes
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