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« Reply #1900 on: November 26, 2018, 08:22:39 PM »



Trump 2016 in green vs. Bush 2004 in blue. Trump only barely wins!

ID is a difference of 20 votes, so is left gray. Key is <1% margin is 20%, <5% is 30% and up from there.

BS, how does Trump do better in Virginia?
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« Reply #1901 on: November 26, 2018, 09:26:06 PM »



Trump 2016 in green vs. Bush 2004 in blue. Trump only barely wins!

ID is a difference of 20 votes, so is left gray. Key is <1% margin is 20%, <5% is 30% and up from there.

BS, how does Trump do better in Virginia?

2016 Trump 1,769,443 (44.43%) +52,484

2004 Bush II 1,716,959 (53.68%)

This is per overall number of votes, which means it's heavily influenced by population changes over 12 years. Same reason Bush narrowly won all the Kerry voting Upper Midwest, while Trump killed it in Nevada and Arizona.
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« Reply #1902 on: November 26, 2018, 09:45:29 PM »

Hillary Clinton's 2016 performance vs. Woodrow Wilson's 1916 performance:

Woodrow Wilson - Hillary Clinton

30% red = Wilson by 1.14% (Iowa)
40% red = Wilson by 1.14-5%
50% red = Wilson by 5-15%
60% red = Wilson by 15-50%
70% red = Wilson by 50-100%


30% blue = Clinton by 0.19% (Minnesota)
40% blue = Clinton by 0.19%-5%
50% blue = Clinton by 5-15%
60% blue = Clinton by 15-50%
70% blue = Clinton by 50-100%
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« Reply #1903 on: November 27, 2018, 03:00:45 PM »

Senate, Now



Senate, 50 years ago



Senate, 100 years ago

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« Reply #1904 on: November 27, 2018, 07:25:00 PM »
« Edited: November 27, 2018, 07:31:39 PM by razze »

Barack Obama's 2008 performance vs. Franklin D. Roosevelt's 1944 performance:

Franklin D. Roosevelt - Barack Obama

30% red = FDR by 0.47% (Nevada)
40% red = FDR by 0.47-5%
50% red = FDR by 5-15%
60% red = FDR by 15-50%
70% red = FDR by 50-100%


30% blue = Obama by 0.18% (Nebraska)
40% blue = Obama by 0.18%-5%
50% blue = Obama by 5-15%
60% blue = Obama by 15-50%
70% blue = Obama by 50-100%
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« Reply #1905 on: November 28, 2018, 02:44:13 PM »
« Edited: November 28, 2018, 03:26:58 PM by Let Dogs Survive »

Governors, Now



Governors, 30 years ago




Governors, 60 years ago

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« Reply #1906 on: December 01, 2018, 05:35:32 PM »

NC Gubernatorial Jungle Primary, 2012
✔ Pat McCrory 45.60%
✔ Walter D. Dalton, 19.79%

Bob Etheridge, 16.42%
Paul Wright, 2.89%
Bill Faison, 2.42%
Gardenia Henley, 2.25%
Barbara Howe, 2.12%
Scott Jones 1.91%
Jim Mahan, 1.80%
Jim Harney, 1.58%
Garry M. Dunn, 1.25%
Bruce Blackmon, 1.07%
Charles Kenneth Moss, 0.82%

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North Carolina gubernatorial election, 2012
✔ Pat McCrory 56.39% (+10.79)
Walter D. Dalton, 43.61% (+23.82)
Demoralized by a 26-point primary loss, Dalton does recieves less popular votes than in OTL. Gains are % change from the primary. Map for the primary results.
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« Reply #1907 on: December 03, 2018, 08:15:40 AM »



2040. The GOP collapsed. The fiscally conservatives joined the Libertarian Party, while the religious conservatives formed the new Family Values Party. The remaining GOP ran on a strongly protectionnist and pro farmers campaign.
Meanwhile, Global warming, water drought and floods just went worse. The Green Party plateform had a large echo in states that has those problems.
Democratic Incumbent Mark Farrell (CA), despite his high impopularity, won democratic primaries over Tulsi Gabbard (HI). Short after, Senator Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) left the Democratic Party and was offered to be green nominee, in an effort of the Green Party to become more moderate on economic questions.

Democratic ticket: inc President Mark Farell (CA) - inc Vice-President Stacey Abrams (GA) 25%, 185 EV
Green ticket: Sen Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) - state senator Esteban Garcia (FL) 22%, 174 EV
Family Values ticket: Governor Matthew Shepherd (AR) - Rev Henry Johnson (LA) 20%, 60 EV
Republican ticket: Rep Lance Gooden (TX) - Former General Hugh Fanica (OH) 19%, 83 EV
Libertarian Ticket: Governor Patrick Graham (WY) - Businessman Joe O'Brian (MD) 14%, 36 EV

Democratic Party won tight races in New Mexico against Green and Family Values Party, in North Carolina and Georgia against Family Values Party, and in Pennsylvania against the GOP
Green Party won tight races in Texas and Florida against Dems and Family values, and in Nevada and Colorado against Libertarian.
Family Values Party won tight races in Utah against Libertarian Party and Dems, in Missouri and Tennessee against the GOP, and in Louisiana against the Green Party.
GOP won tight race in Kentucky against Family Values Party
Libertarian Party won tight races in Idaho and Oklahoma against Family Values Party, in Montana against the Green Party, in Kansas against Dems and Family Values Party.

Due to the 28th Amendment, the EV process is the ranking choice method.
First call:
Democratic ticket: inc President Mark Farell (CA) - inc Vice-President Stacey Abrams (GA) 185 EV
Green ticket: Sen Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) - state senator Esteban Garcia (FL) 174 EV
Republican ticket: Rep Lance Gooden (TX) - Former General Hugh Fanica (OH) 83 EV
Family Values ticket: Governor Matthew Shepherd (AR) - Rev Henry Johnson (LA) 60 EV
Libertarian Ticket: Governor Patrick Graham (WY) - Businessman Joe O'Brian (MD) 36 EV

Second call:
Democratic ticket: inc President Mark Farell (CA) - inc Vice-President Stacey Abrams (GA) 185 EV
Green ticket: Sen Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) - state senator Esteban Garcia (FL) 175 EV
Republican ticket: Rep Lance Gooden (TX) - Former General Hugh Fanica (OH) 113 EV
Family Values ticket: Governor Matthew Shepherd (AR) - Rev Henry Johnson (LA) 65 EV

Third call:
Democratic ticket: inc President Mark Farell (CA) - inc Vice-President Stacey Abrams (GA) 185 EV
Green ticket: Sen Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) - state senator Esteban Garcia (FL) 179 EV
Republican ticket: Rep Lance Gooden (TX) - Former General Hugh Fanica (OH) 174 EV

Fourth call:
Green ticket: Sen Kyrsten Sinema (AZ) - state senator Esteban Garcia (FL) 293 EV
Democratic ticket: inc President Mark Farell (CA) - inc Vice-President Stacey Abrams (GA) 245 EV
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« Reply #1908 on: December 04, 2018, 06:15:30 PM »


Kris Kringle (Social Democratic) 344 | Father Christmas (Whig) 144 | Babbo Natale (Democratic) 50
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« Reply #1909 on: December 04, 2018, 08:53:04 PM »

So I'll be doing some past presidential election scenarios using Google Trends data.

First off, 2016.



No matter what setting you change it to, the results are the same: Donald Trump trounces Hillary Clinton in a 538-0 landslide. Clinton's best state is Washington, D.C., of course, where she gets 17%. Alaska is Trump's best state, where he gets 93%.

And now, for a rematch of the 2016 Dem primary:



Democrats have firmly rejected the left-wing views of Bernie Sanders, who manages to win only his home state of Vermont as well as, surprisingly, the District of Columbia. Clinton's best state is her former home of Arkansas, where she destroys the septuagenarian socialist with a resounding 79%.

And now, for 2008:


Rising star and Senator Barack Obama just can't beat the popularity of his colleague Hillary Clinton, who easily gains the nomination despite a stronger-than-expected performance by Obama. The Illinois senator's best state was his birthplace of Hawaii, where he got 58% of the vote, and Clinton's best was Wyoming, where she crushed Obama with 74% of the vote, 10 points higher than her second best state (Idaho).

Now, onto the 2008 general.*

*-Using trends from past 90 days

Amidst an unpopular war and an economic recession, Democrat Barack Obama cruises to the White House in a 510-28 victory, the largest landslide in 24 years. Republican John McCain manages only to win his home state of Arizona, his running mate Sarah Palin's home state of Alaska, and the Republican strongholds of Idaho, Wyoming, and Kentucky (which he wins by less than a point).
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« Reply #1910 on: December 09, 2018, 03:33:45 PM »

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« Reply #1911 on: December 10, 2018, 11:51:29 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2018, 11:55:16 PM by Ohio ain't Safe R »

2020



President Donald Trump / Vice President Mike Pence 279 EV

Senator Kamala Harris / Representative Tim Ryan 259 EV

The 2020 election would be a total letdown for the Democrats. When the dust settled, only two states, Arizona and Michigan, would flip in an election seen as a rerun of four years earlier. Although Wisconsin was close, Michigan was once again the closest state, and by raw vote margins Minnesota was closer than Wisconsin. Trump broke 60% in Missouri and the popular vote was close to a tie.

Donald Trump's health was ailing, and as he put on his best face for the nation he was the subject of great sympathy. There was an understanding among Republicans that a vote for Trump was a vote for Pence. This came true as Trump resigned in late 2021, and Mike Pence became the 46th President.

2024:



Senator Beto O'Rouke, who had won his seat in 2020 in an otherwise disappointing race for Democrats, would win a close primary against Senator Sherrod Brown. Beto would go on to triumph against President Pence who was trying to run for his own term. Pence was only barely break Ohio's winning streak as his resources were diverted to Georgia, Florida, and above all Texas. In the end, he somehow came close to losing Kansas of all places. 

2028:



President Beto wins against a deeply divided opposition. Two separate "Republican" candidates run (one officially under the Libertarian party), and spend far more time attacking each other than the President. By election day, the President was assured of victory and the Republican party would be split for over a decade. The latter result was not even expected after election day, but the split within the party would be far worse than 1912. This election marks the end of the 6th party system.

2032 Democratic Primary



In 2031, as the Republican party continued to further fracture and bicker with itself while the economic slumped, many believed that the Democratic primary could be the "real" election next year. Vast numbers of Republicans and Independents registered as Democrats to have a say in which woman the party should nominate: Beto's chosen successor, Secretary Torres from New Mexico, or Governor Margaret Weber of North Dakota. Weber (Green) was economically more left wing than her neoliberal opponent but was perceived as more compromising on social issues. After winning the primary, Weber easily won the general election without much in the way of united opposition.

Weber, finally the first female President, also won a second term for herself in 2036. However, it was becoming clear that competition in the open election of 2040 would not come from within the increasingly fragile Democratic party, but from without...
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« Reply #1912 on: December 11, 2018, 03:05:14 AM »

2000

Gov. George W. Bush (R-Texas) & Gov. Tom Ridge (R-Penn.) — 352 votes, 49.6%
Vice President Al Gore (D-Tenn.) & Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-Conn.) — 186 votes, 46.5%

2004

President George W. Bush (R-Texas) & Vice President Tom Ridge (R-Penn.) — 317 votes, 49.9%
Sen. John Kerry (D-Tenn.) & Gov. Gary Locke (D-Wash.) — 221 votes, 47.8%

2008

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) & Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) — 390 votes, 55.6%
Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-Mass.) & Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska) — 148 votes, 43.4%

2012

President Barack Obama (D-Ill.) & Sec. Joe Biden (D-Del.) — 303 votes, 50.2%
Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) & Carly Fiorina (R-Calif.) — 235 votes, 48.8%

2016

Vice President Joe Biden (D-Del.) & Mayor Eric Garcetti (D-Calif.) — 445 votes, 57.0%
Donald Trump (R-N.Y.) & Gov. Chris Christie (R-N.J.)Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) — 93 votes, 40.2%
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« Reply #1913 on: December 15, 2018, 08:58:49 AM »

Beto O'Rouke: 48.7%
Sherrod Brown: 36.5%
Joe Biden: 7.6%
Amy Klobuchar: 4.1%
Other: 3.1%

O'Rouke/Klobuchar: 291 (50.9%)
Pence/Rubio: 257 (47.0%)
Other: 0 (2.1%)
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« Reply #1914 on: December 16, 2018, 04:12:56 AM »



A highly unlikely scenario for 2020 (if Hillary was POTUS)

Sen. Marco A. Rubio (R-FL)/Fmr Gov Nikki Haley (R-SC) 433 (40.6%)
Sen. Bernie Sanders (G-VT)/Gov Jay Inslee (G/D-WA) 89 (29.1%)
Fmr VP Joe Biden (D-DE)/Sen. Cory A. Booker (D-NJ) 16 (18.7%)
Rapper Kayne West (I-CA)/Dr. Ben Carson (I/R-MI) 0 (7.0%)
Fmr Gov William F. Weld (L-MA)/Mr. Austin Peterson (L-MO) 0 (3.2%)
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« Reply #1915 on: December 18, 2018, 12:29:21 AM »
« Edited: December 18, 2018, 12:57:08 AM by Let Dogs Survive »

Democratic Senate layout


GOP Senate layout



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« Reply #1916 on: December 18, 2018, 08:23:36 AM »

A Comeback for the Ages.
Hillary Clinton: 278 (48.9%)
Donald Trump: 260 (45.7%)

A Missed Opportunity.
Hillary Clinton: 462 (42.4%)
John Kasich: 62 (31.6%)
Donald Trump: 27 (24.9%)
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« Reply #1917 on: December 18, 2018, 11:13:53 AM »

Atlas Forum Elects 2008:



John McCain / Sarah Palin - 58.06% (457 EVs)
Barack Obama / Joe Biden - 31.23$ (81 EVs)
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« Reply #1918 on: December 18, 2018, 08:18:29 PM »


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« Reply #1919 on: December 18, 2018, 08:34:20 PM »


Is nothing showing up?

Because it should be

90% Represented by 2 Senators of the same party
80% Represented by 1 of each
70% Threw out the last opposite this decade
60% Threw out the last opposite last decade
50% Threw out the last opposite in the 90's
40% Threw out the last opposite in the 80's
30% Threw out the last opposite in the 70's or earlier/Never had representation by the in-party
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« Reply #1920 on: December 20, 2018, 02:30:39 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2018, 10:11:15 PM by Let Dogs Survive »

The Last 5 Presidential Elections...at 10 PM EST

2000



G.W. Bush/Cheney - 185 EV
Gore/Lieberman - 172 EV
Uncalled - 54 EV

2004



G.W. Bush/Cheney - 171 EV
Kerry/Edwards - 112 EV
Uncalled 151 EV

2008



Obama/Biden - 200 EV
McCain/Palin -124 EV
Uncalled - 99 EV

2012



Obama/Biden-162 EV
Romney/Ryan-153 EV
Uncalled-121 EV EV



Trump/Pence -137 EV
H. Clinton/Kaine - 104 EV
Uncalled - 191 EV
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« Reply #1921 on: December 24, 2018, 03:41:50 AM »
« Edited: December 24, 2018, 03:45:15 AM by MB »



2016 presidential election (3rd-party only)

Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (L) 57.3%, 525 EV
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (G) 18.6%, 0 EV
Evan McMullin/Mindy Finn (I) 9.3%, 10 EV
Darrell Castle/Scott Bradley (C) 2.6%, 0 EV
Bernie Sanders/? (I) 1.4%, 3 EV




2012

Gary Johnson/James Gray (L) 57.1%, 512 EV
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (G) 21.0%, 19 EV
Virgil Goode/Jim Clymer (C) 5.5%, 0 EV
No votes: 0.0%, 7 EV



2008

Ralph Nader/Matt Gonzalez (I) 39.6%, 421 EV
Bob Barr/Wayne Allyn Root (L) 28.0%, 93 EV
Chuck Baldwin/Darrell Castle (C) 10.7%, 5 EV
Cynthia McKinney/Rosa Clemente (G) 8.7%, 0 EV
Alan Keyes/Wiley S. Drake (I) 2.6%, 0 EV
Ron Paul/Michael Peroutka (I) 2.5%, 12 EV
No votes: 0.0%, 7 EV
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« Reply #1922 on: December 24, 2018, 02:08:18 PM »
« Edited: December 24, 2018, 02:19:35 PM by MB »



2004

Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo (I) 38.0%, 327 EV
Michael Badnarik/Richard Campagna (L) 32.4%, 200 EV
Michael Peroutka/Chuck Baldwin (C) 11.7%, 0 EV
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche (G) 9.7%, 4 EV
No votes: 0.0%, 7 EV



2000

Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (G) 72.7%, 500 EV
Pat Buchanan/Ezola Foster (Ref) 11.3%, 25 EV
Harry Browne/Art Olivier (L) 9.7%, 13 EV



1996

Ross Perot/Patrick Choate (Ref) 83.5%, 535 EV
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (G) 7.0%, 3 EV
Harry Browne/Jo Jorgensen (L) 5.0%, 0 EV
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« Reply #1923 on: December 25, 2018, 09:19:27 PM »

Here is a congressional district map for my New Rutherford Scenario (as can be found here: https://fiction.wikia.com/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016_(Alternate_Version)#Results):


Rutherford wins 397 congressional districts; Leach carries 38. Notably, he wins every congressional district in 37 states, including every state in the Northeast and Middle Atlantic, every state in the Great Lakes region except for Indiana, and in both Alaska and Hawaii. He carries the majority of congressional districts in 47 states, tying Leach in Idaho.
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« Reply #1924 on: December 26, 2018, 03:24:12 AM »



So this is an interesting one, musically based and from Google Trends but looked sorta coherent. This is if there was a Presidential election between rapper Rich Homie Quan (D) vs. country singer Chase Rice (R) vs. DJ David Guetta (I) vs. indie artist Owl City (O) and if interest for each over the past 12 months on Google indicated support. The percentages are also correct.

Guetta and Quan are nearly tied in terms of electoral votes. Quan holds down the south easily, getting over 70% in Mississippi and 60% in Georgia. Truly the candidate of the deep south here, and wins several other upper south states with smaller margins. Guetta, on the other hand, performs well in the urbanized coastal regions, crossing 50% in Nevada and 40% in California, New York, and New Jersey.

Behind those two is Chase Rice, who, surprisingly to me, lost the south and found most of his strength in the midwest and mid-Atlantic. Has strong support in parts of the plains and rural northeast, but lukewarm support elsewhere, even if he wins.

Coming in last is Owl City, who performs particularly well in the Pacific northwest and interior west, but is mostly crowded out elsewhere.

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