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« Reply #675 on: May 09, 2017, 09:38:34 AM »

On who would you trust to protect the NHS:
T. May: 42%
J. Corbyn: 39%
(Survation)

What.
It's almost as if Jeremy Corbyn sucks and no one thinks he can do anything right.

yeah, but given that May's actual record on the NHS basically consists of driving it straight into it's biggest crisis ever....

The NHS has been in trouble for years and this is not the fault of one specific person or political party. It is badly in need of reform but the NHS is the 'sacred cow' of British politics such that nobody will dare to begin to make the necessary reforms as the other side will weaponise it and  use it as a political football.

The direct experience of friends and family members suggests that it is in a significantly worse state now that it was even 12 months ago (lack of beds, lack of capacity, surgeries being cancelled at record levels)  - as a direct result of mismanagement and spending cuts by the incumbent government (not even Cameron's government).

You can quibble over what is best for the NHS, but May's government have straight out shown that they aren't actually capable of running it as it is.
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« Reply #676 on: May 09, 2017, 11:08:15 AM »

Lol Corbyn's team has banned Buzzfeed from having access to events
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« Reply #677 on: May 09, 2017, 11:11:05 AM »

Lol Corbyn's team has banned Buzzfeed from having access to events

Lol. I suddenly like Corbyn a bit more.
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« Reply #678 on: May 09, 2017, 12:47:47 PM »

Westminster voting intention:
CON: 44% (-4)
LAB: 28% (+4)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 8% (+1)
(TNS_UK / 04 - 08 May)


Quite an outlier. Take it with a grain of salt.
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« Reply #679 on: May 09, 2017, 12:50:06 PM »

Quite an outlier. Take it with a grain of salt.

TNS don't have the best of reputations so salt is usually advisable when consuming their polls, but, and with all the respect to which you are due, I am not sure if you understand what the word 'outlier' means.
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« Reply #680 on: May 09, 2017, 12:53:31 PM »

Quite an outlier. Take it with a grain of salt.

TNS don't have the best of reputations so salt is usually advisable when consuming their polls, but, and with all the respect to which you are due, I am not sure if you understand what the word 'outlier' means.

I'm sure you have more things to do in life than to continuously insult my intelligence. Begone.
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« Reply #681 on: May 09, 2017, 03:15:18 PM »



Scottish local election results, largest party by votes and seats. 2012 -> 2017

Interesting how the Conservatives won Edinburgh. I suppose the reason there is so much blue on that map is independents splitting the vote? Either way, it's a good year if you are a Scottish Conservative.
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« Reply #682 on: May 09, 2017, 04:09:51 PM »

I'm sure you have more things to do in life than to continuously insult my intelligence. Begone.

Happy to confirm on this forum is a very long way down the list of my priorities Smiley

But is there a way of making this particular point - which is an important point - without harming your evidently rather delicate ego? Because you seem to regard being informed that you are wrong as an insult, which is tricky to get around.
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« Reply #683 on: May 09, 2017, 04:16:34 PM »

  If this Conservative lead holds up for awhile during the campaign the marginals are going to be quite different than the usual suspects.
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« Reply #684 on: May 09, 2017, 05:09:04 PM »

As many as 100 LAB MPs set to walk out, form their own breakaway group if Jeremy Corbyn stays on as a leader after a “Tory landslide,” Telegraph says, without saying where it got the information.
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« Reply #685 on: May 09, 2017, 05:12:27 PM »

As many as 100 LAB MPs set to walk out, form their own breakaway group if Jeremy Corbyn stays on as a leader after a “Tory landslide,” Telegraph says, without saying where it got the information.
The thing there is that it was the Telegraph that published it, and considering it's there with no sources, I would look into it deeper than just seeing it like that.
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« Reply #686 on: May 09, 2017, 06:26:40 PM »

Chuka Ummuna poo-pooed this idea just yesterday.
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« Reply #687 on: May 09, 2017, 06:31:11 PM »

Labour election broadcast, featuring Maxine Peake, is really good:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/actress-maxine-peake-backs-jeremy-10387557?1
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« Reply #688 on: May 10, 2017, 02:12:37 AM »

Corbyn refused to answer clearly to whether he would carry on Brexit no matter what, if elected as PM..for SIX times in the same interview.

http://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-2017-39861259/in-full-kuenssberg-interview-with-corbyn
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« Reply #689 on: May 10, 2017, 06:13:28 AM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.
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« Reply #690 on: May 10, 2017, 06:37:55 AM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.

Do you have crosstabs for that? I couldn't see anything on the YouGov website.

I suspect that Labour will be holding up much better in Inner London than Outer London.
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« Reply #691 on: May 10, 2017, 06:51:48 AM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.

Do you have crosstabs for that? I couldn't see anything on the YouGov website.

I suspect that Labour will be holding up much better in Inner London than Outer London.

Saw it on Twitter; YouGov often don't put up crosstabs for a while.
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« Reply #692 on: May 10, 2017, 08:35:16 AM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.

Do you have crosstabs for that? I couldn't see anything on the YouGov website.

I suspect that Labour will be holding up much better in Inner London than Outer London.

Would the rise in Lib vote potentially save Sarah Olney?
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« Reply #693 on: May 10, 2017, 10:47:17 AM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.

Do you have crosstabs for that? I couldn't see anything on the YouGov website.

I suspect that Labour will be holding up much better in Inner London than Outer London.

Would the rise in Lib vote potentially save Sarah Olney?

Personally I think Olney is a shoo-in to be reelected. SW London is going to be the Lib Dems' bright spot where they gain 2-3 seats.
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« Reply #694 on: May 10, 2017, 12:59:08 PM »

No Conservative election expenses charges from 14 police force inquiries

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/10/no-conservative-election-expenses-charges-from-14-police-force-inquiries

ANOTHER CAR CRASH Labour’s education spokesman ‘does a Diane Abbott’ and gets her figures wrong in another excruciating election interview fail

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3525863/labours-education-spokesman-does-a-diane-abbott-and-gets-her-figures-wrong-in-another-excruciating-election-interview-fail/

^^Incompetence at it best .........

At this rate, Labour will have more car crash interviews by the end of the election than mps ._.
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« Reply #695 on: May 10, 2017, 01:59:55 PM »

YouGov poll of London, with changes compared to 2015:

Lab 42 (-2)
Con 36 (+2)
Lib Dem 14 (+6)
UKIP - 6 (-2)
Greens - 3 (-2)

The likes of Wes Streeting (Ilford North) would have a fighting chance on these figures.

Do you have crosstabs for that? I couldn't see anything on the YouGov website.

I suspect that Labour will be holding up much better in Inner London than Outer London.

Would the rise in Lib vote potentially save Sarah Olney?

Personally I think Olney is a shoo-in to be reelected. SW London is going to be the Lib Dems' bright spot where they gain 2-3 seats.

Olney won by a quite small margin last year and that was a by election which tends to be better for opposition parties. Therefore, she will probably lose.
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« Reply #696 on: May 10, 2017, 04:51:39 PM »

I don't know about the Energy sector; but the other two have always been popular when they've polled them.  I mean not that that will significantly change anything; but they are the sort of policies that Labour ought to have...
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« Reply #697 on: May 10, 2017, 07:33:45 PM »
« Edited: May 10, 2017, 07:35:55 PM by Babeuf »

The manifesto looks very good imo, but this quote from the Mirror article is just awful:

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How could any person like this be in a left-wing party!?!?

Also, shame on whoever leaked the draft.
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« Reply #698 on: May 10, 2017, 07:38:47 PM »

I heard that BBC is being criticised for anti-Corbyn bias and supporting Conservatives. Is it true? They were rather liberal in covering US election.





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« Reply #699 on: May 10, 2017, 09:04:44 PM »

BBC gets smacked around every cycle, they are always accused of supporting the ruling party
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