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« on: April 18, 2017, 05:14:11 AM »

Less than two months in advance?  Christ.

There is a legal minimum time between dissolution and the poll - I think it's nearer it.
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2017, 08:07:56 AM »

https://twitter.com/jonkay01/status/854300093142511621

Sorry for asking, but I don't know "Brenda from Bristol" and I can't find anything about her. Who's that Lady? Why is she famous?



It's a 'vox pop'. You find random members of the public and ask them about political matters. She's not famous, but she certainly will be now.

Have I Got News For You is back on Friday and I would not be surprised to see that clip in it...
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« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2017, 04:48:25 AM »


Its an absurd question because no one mines coal anymore.


There are still open cast mines in Scotland.
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2017, 03:25:18 PM »

ComRes

Con 50(+4) Lab 25(-) LD 11(-) UKIP 7(-2)

That would see a majority of 200 with Labour reduced to 140 seats

This is utterly insane; for Labour to do this badly, they would need to be in power during the Great Depression and betray their voters.

You were saying?

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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2017, 03:29:34 PM »

Got it. Thanks. But Labour was in power during the Great Recession...
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2017, 04:01:20 PM »

The poll tax was 27 years ago. There are now voters who don't even remember the invasion of Iraq...
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2017, 04:18:19 PM »

You're assuming they campaign incompetently and Labour do competent. Labour at present can't do competent.
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2017, 04:19:35 PM »

The poll tax was 27 years ago. There are now voters who don't even remember the invasion of Iraq...

It was, but it cemented the idea of the nasty uncaring party and the fact that the poll tax was applied in Scotland first, made the tories deeply unpopular among scots.

Many Scottish tories tried to de-toxify the party image but failed, like David McLetchie
 and Annabel Goldie which was a decent women.


What about Ruth Davidson?
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2017, 05:03:52 PM »

"Remember a little thing called margin of error", indeed. But I don't think it is unrealistic for May to get 44% of the vote; higher than Thatcher or Major ever got.
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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2017, 05:20:57 AM »

Nuttall also wants to ban the burka for security reasons... I've never heard of a woman in one robbing a bank.
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« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2017, 11:36:06 AM »

Problem is that while Labour's policies test well, the popularity of Corbyn is just that bad. In fact, there was a poll that found said policies actually were less popular when people were told they were Labour policies.
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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2017, 07:15:55 AM »

18/70 in Scotland. Oh wow.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2017, 08:00:51 AM »

Approval/disapproval, I think.
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« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 10:29:50 AM »

Mind you, if you don't think they're doing a good job in their current role, you're hardly going to vote to promote them.
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« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 02:06:19 PM »

Andrew Turner (Con- Isle of Wight) steps down after homophobic remark to A Level politics class
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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2017, 07:04:34 AM »

First post in this forum, I apologize in advance if my question is ignorant.

Would a result like the last few polls having Labour at 29 or 30% show that not many voters deserted the party after all? It's not all that worse than what they received at the last election, and would suggest that the conservatives greater strength came from other parties than Labour's own base which stayed mostly loyal?

It would suggest some picking up of voters from the Greens and other left parties to replace those that have defected to UKIP and the Tories. However, it would hardly be a ringing endorsement of Labour at all.

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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 11:48:09 AM »

Is there a consensus on here that the Conservatives under PM Theresa May are on the brink of their own version of the 1997 general election?

Arguably better - Labour got 42% in 1997 and the Tories will likely go higher in the national vote share.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2017, 05:14:40 AM »

So how likely is it that Theresa May outperforms Blair's 1997 numbers?

I'd say 80/20 personally in terms of percentage.
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2017, 09:27:53 AM »

Yet they mostly certainly haven't.
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2017, 05:13:31 AM »


I don't know, public services improved a lot in response to the massive injection of £££ that followed. And so on. It's just that it turns out that history doesn't come to a.

I was referring to the global situation in general. Can't say Syria's improved.
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2017, 05:16:27 AM »

Who hear saw Diane Abbott's car crash of an interview with Nick Ferrari this morning?
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2017, 05:33:24 AM »

Who hear saw Diane Abbott's car crash of an interview with Nick Ferrari this morning?

Luckily for us, not most people.

It's on the LBC Facebook page and also the Daily Mail website now. The latter is the most read news source in the UK.
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« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2017, 05:58:26 AM »

Labour are doing better than they were when the election was called. I think that the previous couple of polls have been getting to YouGov's new standing position, with polls now going to fluctuate around the margin of error.

But still very much on a hiding to nothing.
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« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2017, 10:32:19 AM »

It's because I live in an unwinnable seat for Labour that I feel far more comfortable about voting Lib Dem...
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2017, 02:18:00 PM »

Renationalisation of railways as Labour plans would require them to be in power for three terms - my local company, c2c, has its franchise until 2029...
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