Alabama Megathread: Bombshell allegations

[smoltchanov]

The obvious problem here is that abortion is a big turnout driver for the type of evangelical nutjobs that make up Moore's base while not doing much for Alabama Democrats (I'd guess).

Again - +100

[smoltchanov]

I guess I just don't see how this is some big game changer. He was asked a question and gave an answer. Maybe he would have said something else if he had time to think about it more, I don't know. I have a hard time imagining that die hard pro lifers were going to go out and check the dem box. Even if Jones was ambivalent or didn't say anything, there would be the assumption that he's pro choice just because he's a democrat. Even if he was pro life, he could still be attacked for defending Obamacare or wanting more welfare programs. And it's not like being pro life is this great boon for AL dems either. Parker Griffith was pro life and some good that did him in the 2014 gubernatorial race. He got like 400k votes.

Because he was running against a (at that time) popular incumbent governor in a very pro Republican year.

+1. Abortion issue isn't everything, but it's an important factor in close races. In Alabama it's beneficial (electorally) to be as pro-life as possible, in, say, Vermont - vice versa.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Chances Jefferson Dent will actively campaign for Jones?

[Skill and Chance]

Basically, make gains around the Black Belt, the Mobile metro and the Huntsville metro.

There is absolutely 0 chance that Moore wins Mobile, even if he won statewide in a fantasy universe. Mobile voted Moore over Strange.

This is likely true.  Jones probably keeps it close by swinging metro Birmingham and Huntsville towards him to the same degree Clinton swung metro Atlanta toward her.  Think 60%+ in Jefferson with most of the surrounding counties being 60-70%R instead of 70-80%R.  Similarly, he would win Madison with 55%ish and keep Limestone and Morgan around 60%R instead of 70%.  Tuscaloosa would be quite close.

[VPH]

I think Jones wins bigtime in Birmingham and its environs and takes Madison, Conecuh, Barbour, Clarke, and Monroe. He definitely does better than Hillary both in Shelby, Morgan, Limestone, Lawrence, Colbert, Mobile, Tuscaloosa, and Talladega counties.

[Young Conservative]

Basically, make gains around the Black Belt, the Mobile metro and the Huntsville metro.

There is absolutely 0 chance that Moore Jones wins Mobile, even if he won statewide in a fantasy universe. Mobile voted Moore over Strange.

FTFY

Thanks for fixing that.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

[Young Conservative]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

Nationalization of this race will hurt, not help. Just look at the Georgia special election VS South Carolina.

[Roronoa D. Law]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

Nationalization of this race will hurt, not help. Just look at the Georgia special election VS South Carolina.

Democrats goal is not winning Alabama but increasing Moore profile to link him to the Republican party as a whole. SC-05 has traditionally been a blue dog district with few people open to voting Democrat Shaheen won the district in his 2010 race. That has never been the case in GA-06 even if it weren't nationalized.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

Nationalization of this race will hurt, not help. Just look at the Georgia special election VS South Carolina.

Democrats goal is not winning Alabama but increasing Moore profile to link him to the Republican party as a whole. SC-05 has traditionally been a blue dog district with few people open to voting Democrat Shaheen won the district in his 2010 race. That has never been the case in GA-06 even if it weren't nationalized.

Why would winning not be their goal?

[Roronoa D. Law]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

Nationalization of this race will hurt, not help. Just look at the Georgia special election VS South Carolina.

Democrats goal is not winning Alabama but increasing Moore profile to link him to the Republican party as a whole. SC-05 has traditionally been a blue dog district with few people open to voting Democrat Shaheen won the district in his 2010 race. That has never been the case in GA-06 even if it weren't nationalized.

Why would winning not be their goal?

Because it's the DNC.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Well that was nice while it lasted.

If anyone is interested, entire interview here: http://www.msnbc.com/mtp-daily/watch/meet-roy-moore-s-opponent-full-doug-jones-interview-1056413763829

[Alabama_Indy10]

Biden to campaign for Jones on October 3rd

Nationalization of this race will hurt, not help. Just look at the Georgia special election VS South Carolina.

Democrats goal is not winning Alabama but increasing Moore profile to link him to the Republican party as a whole. SC-05 has traditionally been a blue dog district with few people open to voting Democrat Shaheen won the district in his 2010 race. That has never been the case in GA-06 even if it weren't nationalized.

Why would winning not be their goal?

Because it's the DNC.

Oh! Gotcha.. that's pretty funny lol

[Canis]

Atlas Democrats look at Alabunga senate race and be like:

AlaBunga

[I’m not Stu]

David Duke endorses Roy Moore. Should Doug Jones' campaign try to tie Moore to David Duke's endorsement in order to boost Democratic turnout?

[Cactus Jack]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

[JA]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

Unfortunately, that only raises Jones's chances of victory from about 5% to 10%.

[I’m not Stu]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

And this could convince Siran Stacy and the Coalition of African-American Pastors to stop endorsing Moore.

[Ronnie]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

Duke vocally supported Trump throughout the presidential campaign, Trump's disavowal of him was half-hearted at best, and he still won 8% of the black vote according to exit polls.

[I’m not Stu]

After endorsing Strange, Duke warns Trump not to do anything like that again or Duke will stop supporting Trump.

[Cactus Jack]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

Unfortunately, that only raises Jones's chances of victory from about 5% to 10%.

He needs whatever he can get.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Least surprising endorsement ever.

[Attorney General, Senator-Elect, & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

After endorsing Strange, Duke warns Trump not to do anything like that again or Duke will stop supporting Trump.

The rest of the racists will vote Trump in 2020 regardless of what Duke does.

[I’m not Stu]

After endorsing Strange, Duke warns Trump not to do anything like that again or Duke will stop supporting Trump.

The rest of the racists will vote Trump in 2020 regardless of what Duke does.

Not Alex Linder, Jeff Rense, Tom Metzger, or Robert Ransdell.

[Tintrlvr]

One thing's for sure: Jones can at least use this to obliterate what little African-American support Moore might have had up to this point.

And this could convince Siran Stacy and the Coalition of African-American Pastors to stop endorsing Moore.

CAAP is an irrelevant organization that cares about nothing except opposition to same-sex marriage, so I doubt this changes their minds.