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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: August 03, 2005, 03:22:43 AM »

...and then they all go out and buy American products anyway... Roll Eyes

The sheer amount of hypocrisy towards the U.S in a lot of other countries is just... strange... mind you the whole anti-globalisation "movement" is founded on hypocrisy... Roll Eyes
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2005, 02:39:23 AM »

the world strongly dislikes your government, and likes your culture...to a point.

More or less true, but the world doesn't know much about the former. At all.
America's biggest problem is it's failure to communicate effectivily enough really...

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Well America isn't actually a whole lot more religious than a lot of other western/industrialised countries; the difference is that the social pressure of attending church every sunday hasn't collapsed in America... one reason is actually the *lack* of state-church which has enabled the organisations of other churches to be impressivily strong.

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Yes; those things are cultural

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All of which are reasonably similer to those of the various countries that provided the immigrants to the US

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Er... no. The rest of the west rather obviously hasn't moved away from religion (not sure where you got that idea from). The death penalty has been abolished in most western countries, true, but the population in many of them wouldn't mind it being brought back and the culture of gun ownership isn't something the rest of the west has moved away from; it's something it never had.

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I don't think America has been trying to force anything like that down the rest of the west's collective throats at all... that a lot of people act is if it is says something about the sort of pathetic inferiority complex and/or jealousy towards America's power that's soooooooooo obvious with a lot of people nowadays

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Except that the rest of the west isn't especially progressive and certainly hasn't been getting more so recently. Note the %'s far right parties are polling in most western countries. In the "progressive" Netherlands the LPF ended up in Government for a while. Le Pen has the loyalties of a similer proportion of the "progressive" French electorate as the LibDems do of the British electorate. The "progressive" French population support viciously bigoted laws against minority groups (hey the Americans stopped doing that 40 odd years ago).
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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2005, 03:23:40 AM »


Maybe in Australia, but not here; the decline has basically levelled off; the Census results suprised a lot of people; although they really shouldn't have been suprised.

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Compared to when? It's very hard to find out how many people believe in God; for most people it's a private matter after all. Even then, what is God? Different people have different views on that.
There's no accurate way of finding out how many people believe in God or not anywhere.

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Not really come across that much. Certainly no more common over here than in the US. O/c I don't know what you think a Christian lifestyle is.

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Never met a Christian Atheist before. I've met plenty of people with doubts, but that's always been the case and always will be the case. Even in America.

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...to an extent that's very hard for most Americans to even imagine...

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And if the American people ever got to decide, America would almost certainly have something similer; and like all the others it'd be very different to the others.

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You know the U.S Government does intervene in those areas? The problem is that funding has become a political football

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Not in a meaningful way from what I've noticed

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Not every American is George Bush

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If the world is "irritated" at "Americanization" how come the world watches their films and consumes their products with great enthusiam?
I think you seem to be confusing the liberal elites in many western countries with the bulk of the population.

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...while still consuming American products, watching American films...

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It's an absurd question though... and will be entierly influenced by recent media coverage

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I've no interested in asking people loaded questions

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Jealously is certainly the main factor

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Can't think of many people who'd be bothered about that

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No offense, but Australian nationalism can be much, much crasser than American nationalism at times... in fact every country can be extremely crass and offensive towards other countries when in nationalistic moods. Every country.

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So media misrepresentation then?

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Question; what news from America has the Australian media covered in a big way in the past... ooh... two months?

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I understand that the fashion nowadays is to claim that everything is polarised and breaking apart, but that's plain daft.
When people in the rest of the west stop watching American fims or consuming American goods then I'll take that claim (which has become pretty common among Academics) seriously.
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