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« Reply #1300 on: October 21, 2017, 06:20:00 PM »

I'm proud to announce Goldeneye as my replacement
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« Reply #1301 on: October 21, 2017, 06:20:47 PM »

So that is official. I'm replacing GoTfan as Bernie Sanders. Feel the bern.
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« Reply #1302 on: October 21, 2017, 06:30:46 PM »

So that is official. I'm replacing GoTfan as Bernie Sanders. Feel the bern.

I'm not sure if GoTfan sent in debate answers, since that was this turn...but you do need to draw up a schedule for Sanders and possibly his running mate (Tulsi Gabbard, if you weren't paying attention).
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« Reply #1303 on: October 21, 2017, 06:35:51 PM »

So that is official. I'm replacing GoTfan as Bernie Sanders. Feel the bern.

I'm not sure if GoTfan sent in debate answers, since that was this turn...but you do need to draw up a schedule for Sanders and possibly his running mate (Tulsi Gabbard, if you weren't paying attention).

No problem.
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« Reply #1304 on: October 22, 2017, 12:30:38 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 01:31:12 PM by Goldeneye »

Bernie Sanders' campaign schedule

October 10
-Flight to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
-Meet with voters in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with Richard Trumka
-Economic policy speech in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with Richard Trumka:

A real progressive needs to have the courage to stand to Wall Street and to special interests like I did throughout all my political career. I don't think Senator Warren has this courage. You know why? Because while she claims to be so anti-Wall Street, she supports the Ex-Im Bank.

[Crowd boos]

But we all know that the Ex-Im Bank is corporate welfare at its worst. Just like President Obama has said when he first ran in 2008, the Ex-Im Bank has become little more than a fund for corporate welfare. And even though I disagree with Senator Rubio on the Wall Street issue, I agree with him on one thing : Senator Warren is just another darling of Wall Street since she received 600 000 dollars from individuals in the securities and investment industry as well as 2.3 million dollars from Wall Street lawyers and law firms to fund her 2012 senatorial campaign. So Senator Warren is supported by special interests. I never asked for Wall Street contributions or support because we need to fight money's influence in politics. I will do it as President and we can win without Wall Street money. When I'm President, we're going to abolish the Ex-Im Bank, everybody in this country will havetheir fair share of wealth and the power will be to all the people. Of the people, by the people, for the people.

[Crowd cheers and applauds as John Lennon's Power to the People plays]

-Green energy policy speech in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania with Richard Trumka
-Meet with voters in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania with Richard Trumka
-Debate preparation in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

October 11
-Flight to Manchester, New Hampshire
-Meet with voters in Manchester, New Hampshire
-Green energy policy speech in Manchester, New Hampshire
-Meet with voters in Concord, New Hampshire
-Integrity policy speech in Concord, New Hampshire Sad

By contacting with the Democratic National Committee in order to orchesrate efforts to derail my campaign during the Democratic primaries to deny me a fair chance at winning the Democratic nomination, Elizabeth Warren acted like Vladimir Putin because Warren's actions resulted to a fraudulent Democratic primary race and to unfair primary contests that gave her the advantage over me. We can't tolerate it in a democracy like America. If you put your trust in me to be your President, I will put an end to corruption, I will fight money's influence in politics because this is a democracy, not an aristocracy. That way, we're going to reform our democracy for the sake of America's freedom.

[Crowd cheers and applauds]

October 12
-Flight to Portland, Maine
-Meet with voters in Portland, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Economic populism policy speech in Portland, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Manufacturing policy speech in Portland, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Meet with voters in Lewiston, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Ecological policy speech in Lewiston, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Meet with voters in Brunswick, Maine with Tulsi Gabbard
-Debate preparations in Brunswick, Maine

October 13
-Flight to Minneapolis, Minnesota
-Debate preparation on the plane
-Meet with voters in Minneapolis, Minnesota
-Manufacturing policy speech in Minneapolis, Minnesota
-Meet with voters in Saint Paul, Minnesota
-Foreign policy speech in Saint Paul, Minnesota Sad

As we've heard from Sherrod Brown, Elizabeth Warren wants to select Joe Biden as her Secretary of State. Even though we give this administration the credit of having killed Osama Bin Laden, this is a matter of judgement because Vice-President Biden adopted hawkish foreign policy positions adopted by the Republicans. In 2003, Biden supported the invasion of Iraq while there was no weapons of mass destruction there, thus causing unnecessary deaths of American soldiers and innocent civilians and creating a vacuum fulfilled by ISIS, which allowed its emergence and the increase of ISIS' threat. As Vice-President, Joe Biden supported the U.S. invasion of Libya even though Gadaffi did not represent a direct threat to our country. Libya met Iraq's fate with a vacuum fulfilled by jihadists. Biden even supports the use of U.S. drones that accidently killed several innocent civilians instead of killing terrorists. My running mate Tulsi Gabbard is herself a veteran, we know what it is to lose our men and women in uniform for nothing. These were endless wars that cost too much money, increased the deficit and caused unncessary deaths. Senator Warren's desire to have Biden as Secretary of State clearly demonstrated that she's too close to Senator Rubio in terms of foreign policy. She is just another liberal hawk.

When I'm President, all of that will change. We will promote diplomacy, we will adopt a foreign policy based on America's direct interests and we will build coalitions with our allies in order to defeat terrorism, even if that requires working with Russia. That's the right path to peace.


[Crowd applauds]

October 14-15
-Senate duties in Washington D.C.

October 16
-Flight to Detroit, Michigan
-Meet with voters in Detroit, Michigan
-Anti-racism policy speech in Detroit, Michigan, reminding Sanders' participation in civil rights protests in Chicago, where he was arrested in the 1960s
-Meet with voters in Flint, Michigan where Senator Sanders slams Elizabeth Warren for having helped Travelers Insurance to deny payment to Asbestos-poisoning victims.

October 17
-Campaign in California and Oregon where Senator Sanders focuses mostly on foreign policy, green energy and Wall Street reform
-On social media, Bernie Sanders congratulates Senator Rubio for his wedding anniversary

October 18
-Campaign in Hawaii with Tulsi Gabbard
-Debate preparation for all the afternoon

October 19
-Flight to Las Vegas, Nevada
-Debate practice on the plane
-Bernie Sanders participates at the third and final debate with Marco Rubio, Elizabeth Warren and Ron Paul at the University of Nevada in Las Vegas, Nevada
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« Reply #1305 on: October 22, 2017, 01:02:51 PM »

Summary Schedule

Sherrod Brown spent the nine days stumping in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Virginia, Illinois and Maine.

In addition to campaigning for Warren, he campaigned for Russ Feingold, Tammy Duckworth, Ted Strickland, and Katie McGinty.


Brown also attended the third and final Presidential Debate in Las Vegas as a guest of Senator Warren and Senator Harry Reid.
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« Reply #1306 on: October 22, 2017, 02:14:20 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 03:01:48 PM by Different Republican »

Ron Paul Campaign Ad

In an effort to attract voters who are preoccupied with their privacy and constitutional rights, Ron Paul's campaign broadcasts an ad attacking Marco Rubio on he's views of keeping spying the people which breaks the 4th amendment.

The ad airs in the states of Arizona, Alaska, Montana, New Hampshire, Maine, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, Michigan, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Texas, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico, North Dakota and South Dakota

Ad:



Narrator: The Constitution of the United States provides all of us many rights, like the right to life, to free speech, to liberty and others. The fourth amendment of our constitution says that there should be no unreasonable searches and seizures made by the government.



Narrator: But recently, in 2013, Edward Snowden shown all of us the reality of what our government was doing, the government is constantly spying on you illegally, because the 4th amendment says that a warrant is required to search information from some person, and the government is doing this, collecting information from everyone without a warrant to do so.




Narrator: The espionage on all of us happened due to the implementation of the PATRIOT Act, that authorizes the government to do this unconstitutional activity against you. Despite being clearly unconstitutional many Republicans and Democrats, including President Obama condemned Snowden for showing the truth and giving transparency to the people, as result, Snowden had to leave the country.



Narrator: Many Republicans, who said they were defenders of the constitution, including Marco Rubio, defended, and still defend to this day the espionage of innocent Americans and the collection of information in an unconstitutional way that the 4th amendment doesn't allow. Our rights are being broken, but many are ignoring it and pretending to be for the constitution, we can't allow this to happen anymore, our liberty, our rights and a part of the bill of rights are under risk, and we need to save this part of the constitution and our right to have privacy.



Narrator: Ron Paul has always defended our constitutional rights while in congress and has been a big defender of the end of the PATRIOT Act and the NSA Surveillance, he was one of the three Republicans in the house to vote against the constitutional PATRIOT Act. Paul has been endorsed by Edward Snowden due to he's fight against government tyranny and unconstitutional espionage, a vote for Paul, is a vote for the end of the NSA surveillance and the defense of our constitutional rights.

Paul: I'm Ron Paul, and I approve this message
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« Reply #1307 on: October 22, 2017, 02:34:36 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 02:37:03 PM by UWS »

Marco Rubio Campaign Ad
In an effort to hurt Elizabeth Warren, Marco Rubio's campaign broadcasts an ad attacking Elizabeth Warren on her connections with Travelers Insurance.

The ad titled « Irresponsible » airs in Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Hawaii, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Nevada, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin

« Irresponsible » advertisement narration :



Narrator : During her career as teacher at the Harvard University, Elizabeth Warren helped Travelers Insurance, a major insurance company, to deny payment to Asbestos-poisoning victims.



Warren accepted more than $100,000 in legal fees to help suppress personal injury lawsuits against her client Travelers Insurance, which was alleged to have mislead the public about the dangers of asbestos. Warren worked as a consultant for Travelers in the 2009 Supreme Court case Travelers Indemnity Co. v. Bailey, in which Travelers won immunity from all lawsuits related to its bankrupt former client Johns Manville Corp., an asbestos manufacturer. Travelers knew about the dangers of Johns Manville’s product for decades, records show.

Warren wrote in a Supreme Court brief about the "asbestos litigation crisis" and criticized "enterprising plaintiffs’ lawyers" representing the asbestos victims. Travelers won the case, effectively shielding the company from any and all future lawsuits by asbestos victims. So Elizabeth Warren put her interests first before the needs of Asbestos-poisoning victims.

Elizabeth Warren, wrong for America.

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« Reply #1308 on: October 22, 2017, 02:56:27 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 03:29:41 PM by UWS »

Marco Rubio's response to Ron Paul's ad in Phoenix, Arizona

Let me remind Congressman Paul that the cause of the threat to our Constitution and to our people's constitutional rights is radical Islamic terrorism. Our security measures actually made a contribution in protecting freedom against terrorism. Here's what Congressman Paul does not understand : the Patriot Act allowed intelligence agents to share with FBI criminal investigators evidence that an anonymous letter sent to the FBI had come from an individual with Al Qaeda. That letter began the investigation into an alleged terror cell in Lackawanna, New York, that has resulted in six guilty pleas. That same information-sharing authority was used against members of an alleged terror cell in Portland, Oregon, that an undercover informant said was preparing for possible attacks against Jewish schools or synagogues. Continued surveillance under the Patriot Act of one suspect led to six others, who likely would have scattered or fled if the first suspect had been arrested right away. Thanks to Patriot Act, terror financing provisions of the law were used in numerous cases, including charges against a member of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC, on charges of being an unlicensed money transmitter. The same authority has been used to prosecute people illegally sending money to Iraq, Yemen, the United Arab Emirates and India. Powers permitted under the Patriot Act have also been used in investigations involving potential school bomb attacks, computer hackers, child pornography, violent fugitives and illegal weapons sales. In one case, Patriot Act electronic communications authorities allowed law enforcement agencies to identify a person who had sent 200 threatening letters laced with white powder in Lafayette. Over 40 terror plots, if not more, that were planned to be committed against the United States were foiled since the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 thanks to domestic and international cooperation, as well as efforts to track down terror, including the Patriot Act.

And let me remid you that two radical Islamic terrorists decided to attack us in San Bernardino on December 2015 and they were able to do it. Why? Because the Congress has voted in favor of weakening our surveillance program on June 2 2015 (6 months before these attacks), thus putting our country in danger and encouraging terrorists to commit terrorist attacks on our soil and to kill Americans, which allowed two radical Islamic terrorists to kill 14 people and to injure 22 others in San Bernardino because we did not have access to records, information and other items under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that would have allowed us to identify these killers before they attacked. So reinforcing our security measures is necessary, for example, because parts of the FBI couldn't talk to each other. Intelligence gathering and the law enforcement arms of the FBI just couldn't share intelligence under the old law, and that didn't make any sense. Our law enforcement must have every tool necessary to find and disrupt terrorists at home and abroad before they hurt us again. That's the task of the 21st century.

It's our duty to fight and defeat terrorism because they are killing Americans for defending the values they believe in such as gender equity, freedom of religion, freedom of press, freedom of speech. That's why I'm determined to defend the Constitution of the United States and that requires defeating terrorism. If you want a President who will lead us to unconditional victory against terrorism, then I am your candidate.


[Crowd loudly cheers and applauds]
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« Reply #1309 on: October 22, 2017, 03:23:49 PM »
« Edited: October 22, 2017, 04:52:09 PM by UWS »

Marco Rubio Campaign Ad
In an effort to hurt Elizabeth Warren, Marco Rubio's campaign broadcasts an ad attacking Elizabeth Warren on shifting positions throughout her career while describing Rubio as the only consistent and trustworthy presidential candidate in the actual presidential campaign.

The ad titled « The Flipping Politician » airs in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin

« The Flipping Politician » advertisement narration :



Narrator : Throughout her career, Elizabeth Warren has shifted her political positions on so many issues.


She supported school choice before she now opposes it.


While she claims that she fights against big business, she failed to mention that she worked for Travelers Insurance, a big business, and got paid over $200,000 in a matter of three years.


On healthcare, Senator Warren wrote, in her 2008 co-authored essay titled Get Sick, Go Broke, that the most obvious solution would be universal single-payer health care. However, in 2012, Warren told a local TV host that she did not support a single-payer health care system.

While she seeks to pursue Barack Obama's drastic cuts in the military (all measures that allowed ISIS' rise and made America and our allies easier targets for terrorists), Senator Warren fought to stop the Army from shifting funds away from a Massachusetts-built communications network to pay for unanticipated costs associated with the War in Afghanistan. She’s lobbied for problem-plagued General Dynamics-made tactical radios. And she’s pledged to protect Westover Air Reserve Base from the budget ax — all while saying she supports ‘targeted’ cuts elsewhere.

Elizabeth Warren, the flipping candidate ready to say or do anything to boost her political ambitions and to win votes.


Unlike Warren, Marco Rubio is a consistent candidate who says what he believes and will defend America's values.


As President of the United States, Marco Rubio will fight for school choice which will cost families, including these immigrant families living paycheck to paycheck, less and produce higher outcomes compared to public education. It will grant parents the power to orientate their children out of poorly-performing schools assigned by zip code and look for better education elsewhere. It will expand opportunities for low-income students—especially minorities—to attend high-quality schools that would otherwise be accessible only to higher-income families, thus increasing their chances of success and of entry into the workforce.


President Rubio will make America the best place in the world to do business by cutting taxes for all businesses across this country, including small businesses, by reducing the cost of doing business in America and by lowering America's corporate tax rate from 40 % to 20 %, which will lower the size of government and increase American businesses' ability to compete, to innovate, to produce and to create good-paying jobs.


He will increase our budget defense in order to ensure our troops' readiness and to reinforce and modernize our military, which will help America and its allies to defeat radical Islamic terrorism and to ensure peace through strength.

Marco Rubio, the consistent and straight-talking candidate the American people can trust to lead this country and to get it back on the right direction.

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« Reply #1310 on: October 22, 2017, 05:44:14 PM »

I'm proud to announce Goldeneye as my replacement


Ok! Sounds good

An update: I will extend the round until tomorrow night at 10;00 pm est. I’ve been battling a cold all weekend and am not feeling up to snuff tonight
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« Reply #1311 on: October 23, 2017, 09:51:53 PM »

center]FINAL PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE[/center]
Candidates: Let's get right to it. The first topic is the Supreme Court. You all talked briefly about the court in the last debate, but I want to drill down on this because the next president will almost certainly have at least one appointment and likely or possibly two or three appointments which means that you will in effect determine the balance of the court for what could be the next quarter century. First of all, where do you want to see the court take the country? And secondly, what’s your view on how the constitution should be interpreted? Do the founders' words mean what they say or is it a living document to be applied flexibly, according to changing circumstances? In this segment, Senator Warren you go first. You have two minutes:

 [Warren:]I want to see the court take the court the way the way the constitution was written, as a living a document. Those who believe in strict textualism, like the late Justice Scalia, are ignoring the fact that the original Bill of Rights wasn't in our constitution. Would they want those amendments removed?

RUBIO: RUBIO: Thank you Chris for moderating that debate and I want to thank Senator Warren, Senator Sanders and Congressman Paul for being here tonight and I want to thank the University of Nevada for hosting this debate. Let me start by saying that two days ago, my family and I celebrated the 18th anniversary of the day I became the luckiest man on Earth when Jeanette accepted to marry me. I love you Jeanette. And it's really amazing to be back here in Las Vegas. I spent six years as a child growing not far from where we stand tonight. I use to sit on the porch of our home and listen to my grandfather tell stories as he smoked one of three daily cigars.

Now let's come to your question, Chris. Yes, I do believe that our Founding Fathers really mean what they say because we cherish all the values defended by the Constitution and the next Supreme Court Justice will play a great role in the issue about what kind of country we're going to be for the future. And as you know, the first 10 amendments, known collectively as the Bill of Rights, place restrictions on the powers of government, thus giving more freedom to the people. That's why my nominee for Supreme Court Justice (I have Mike Lee in mind, notably) will be a constitutional conservative who will protect unborn children from abortion and give them the right to live, repeal and replace Obamacare, reduce the size of government for the sake of freedom and prosperity and defend all the values defended by the Constitution such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of press and the Second Amendment that protects the right of self-defense. Meanwhile, my opponent Elizabeth Warren will nominate someone who will do the contrast of the values defended by the Constitution. Warren's nominee will violate the Second Amendment, increase the size of government and make Obamacare permanent, which will ensure that tens of millions of Americans will lose their access to healthcare and their health insurance. And even after the shooting at the Orlando Pulse Nightclub, Senator Warren voted against allowing the Attorney General to block the transfer of firearms to suspected terrorists, which is the right thing to do in order to prevent such disasters without violating the Second Amendment. For that reason, my nominee for SCOTUS will defend every single word of what our founders said in the Constitution for the sake of our country's freedom, prosperity and security.

PAUL: First of all, I want to thank Rubio, Warren and Sanders for coming to this debate, I'd like to see a Supreme Court that fights for the following things, the three rights every individual has, life, liberty and estate, and our constitution, so basically, I want to see a supreme court that will protect the rights of all Americans, that will protect the freedom and the life of all of us, what I want to see is a supreme court that fights for the end of the killings of citizens who haven't been born, because they also have the right to life, I want to see a supreme court that will fight for the end of the violation of the 4th amendment that happens everyday, I want to see is a supreme court that will defend the american values of liberty and freedom, that will defend the right to have property and that will interpret the constitution like our founding father wanted us to interpret it.

I do think the constitution means what is written, I do think that our founder meant exactly what is written there, this might seem like a normal opinion to someone who is a libertarian or a republican, but I disagree, many Republicans simply don't think this, at least not entirely, they, mostly establishment republicans and people like Marco defend things like the PATRIOT Act and the NSA Surveillance which directly breaks the 4th amendment, this isn't "thinking the founding fathers meant what they wrote in the constitution", this is close to "thinking that the founding fathers meant what they wrote in SOME parts of the constitution".

You talked about "applying the constitution in a flexible way", and while it seems like an good idea for some, there are some problems, the first is that we can't simply make the constitution so flexible, the constitution can't be changed every time so it can be flexible, the second is that depending on how it would be changed to be flexible, it would be a bad change, imagine if the congress and the president think that the flexibility is to get rid of freedom of speech, it is an far fetched idea, but it shouldn't even be possible, the third thing is that the constitution already provides the explanations of how things work and there isn't really any big changes we could make, except in things like the 16th amendment, that was added many years after the ratification of the constitution and that created the income tax, the most degrading and totalitarian of all possible taxes.

So that's what I think, the constitution means what it means and it should be flexible to the modern days like some say, because it is already good how it is.

SANDERS: S: The founders' words mean exactly what they say. I've been outspoken in calling for an overturn of Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, in which the Supreme Court overturned McCain-Feingold restrictions on political spending by corporations and unions as a violation of the First Amendment. This was one of the Supreme Court's worst decisions ever and it deflect attention from the real issues facing voters. That's why I propose a constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United. When it comes to espionage, I think Edward Snowden played a very important role in educating the American people to the degree in which our civil liberties and our constitutional rights are being undermined because of NSA spying.
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« Reply #1312 on: October 23, 2017, 09:54:57 PM »

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WALLACE: Following up, do each of you believe Roe v. Wade is settled law?

RUBIO: O: The reason why I'm opposing Roe v. Wade is because we can't solve a problem by creating another problem. When you look at our debt, we owe 20 trillion dollars and we borrow more than 1 million dollars per minute. That's why we have to reduce government spending. But now, the government is spending millions and millions of dollars every year to fund Planned Parenthood, which not only costs too much money but also allows further abortions through money that partly comes from American taxpayers. It's outrageous that the government takes taxpayers' money in order to allow the death of unborn babies. So we need to defund Planned Parenthood in order to save the life of the unborn and also to save money and allow taxpayers to keep their money for their American Dream and their pursuit of happiness, which will help us to cut government spending and to balance the budget.

Take a look at China's two-child policy that limits the number of children per family at two, it is a violation to the human right of determining the size of one's own family. And there is a clear alternative to abortion and that is adoption. Adoption will allow couples who don't want a baby not to have one without killing him while this baby will earn the chance to live, to be raised, to be loved and to appreciate the gift of life. That's why I will put pro-life justices on the court in order to ensure that it will go back to the states and that every child will earn the right to live.

WARREN: . Roe V. Wade won't be settled law until a constitutional amendment permanently enshrining the right to an abortion is passed. As President, I will push for that, because the Republicans will continue to push for the overturning of Roe V. Wade by any means necessary, and the criminalization of abortion, even when the mother's life is on the line.

SANDERS: Of course it is. And I will work for Supreme Court justices who understand that Roe v. Wade is the law of the land and recognize the rights of women to have access to family planning services.

PAUL: Well, I always opposed abortion,I think that the idea that we should allow fetuses, which are humans, which have a life, to be killed, every human has the right to life and this shouldn't exclude fetuses, by allowing abortion we are violating the right of life from many babies. The main problem with this issue is that people don't agree when does life begin, if it begins at conception or when the baby is born, I have delivered more than 4,000 babies and to me, it begins at conception, and nobody should have the right to violate this life from the person that will be born.

But I also don't think that the federal government should ban it, the 9th and 10th amendment don't give the federal government this authority, instead, what should happen is that Roe v Wade should be overturned and each state should decide if it does or not allow abortion, and if this happened, I'd definitely support governors trying to end the killing of the unborn babies.

Another thing that has to do with abortion is the federal funding of planned parenthood, an organization that performs abortions, this funding needs to stop for many reasons, the first one is because the government should not give federal funds to companies and organizations, we should stay out of the free market, the second this is that we should not endorse, by giving funds, any organization that breaks any of the three natural rights of the human being, life, liberty and estate/property, and planned parenthood breaks the first one by violating the life of unborn babies, and the third thing is that we are forcing people, even if they are against abortion, to fund an organization that performs abortion, because we are giving them taxpayers money, and in a Warren administration for example, this will continue, because she already spoken in favor of this public funding that violates the rights of the unborn babies who are being aborted.

So I think that yes, Roe v Wade should be overturned, that we should stop funding planned parenthood and that we should leave this issue to be decided by the states.
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« Reply #1313 on: October 23, 2017, 09:59:23 PM »

Moving next to the topic of immigration, please explain your positions and why you are right on the issue, and why the other candidates are wrong.

SANDERS: First of all, I give credit to Senator Rubio for his fight for immigration reform in 2013 to make our immigration system fairer.

Here's what we have to understand : most criminals in the United States were born and raised here, and didn't immigrate. And that's something Congressman Paul doesn't understand. And even though he said that it's rather offensive to build a fence on the borders, he still supported the Security Fence Act in 2006, which allowed the building of a fence on the southern border. He has proven to have no credibility on immigration since he changed his position on that issue.

However, I would also do border protection. The point is, we don't need a tougher system for immigrants-we have one of the toughest in the world already-we need to make it better. As President, I will reach out to advisers and then formulate the best plan possible.

I will grant amnesty for all. However, I would also do border protection. The point is, we don't need a tougher system for immigrants-we have one of the toughest in the world already-we need to make it better. As President, I will reach out to advisers and then formulate the best plan possible.

PAUL: Our current immigration is just broken, we can't stick with it how it is now, the status quo, we need some type of change, a reform, if we don't reform it, we will continue having this same immigration problem for many, many time, I don't think we should simply deport everyone, this would cost millions of dollars, would be ineffective because there are way too many people and would be bad for the economy because many business require these people to work, but we shouldn't simply give amnesty to everyone either, because there are criminals between the illegal immigrants, my immigration plan is based in five steps:

Step number one, we will get rid of the welfare state, a welfare state only makes us spend money on "free things" that aren't actually free that everyone can use, this idea makes many people come to here illegally expecting to have a better life, without working being only helped by the state, so we need to end this now so people will stop coming here expecting to have everything free from the government and so we stop spending so much money. The second step is to establish a generous worker visa program, this would work like a green card lite for honest illegal immigrants who are working, they would receive the worker visa and stay working while they go trough the same legal process to become a legal immigrant like anyone else, this would ensure our economy will not suffer any major impact.

RUBIO: As the son of Cuban immigrants, I understand the immigration issue as well as the struggles of immigrants. Unlike what my opponents are saying, nothing has changed in my immigration policy. Our immigration system is broken and that's why I believe it must be reformed. The Gang of Eight bill, that I co-sponsored 3 years ago, included billions of dollars for border enforcement and more border agents so it was aimed at reinforcing our borders, which would have brought illegal immigration under control and allow us to reform our immigration system and allow a path to U.S. citizenship for immigrants across this country. By contrast, Congressman Paul is the one who shifted his position on immigration because he said that illegal immigration can't be solved by a wall and even said that he finds the idea of building a fence « rather offensive ». And yet, he voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act of 2006, a legislation that encouraged building a wall on the border. In addition, Senator Sanders along with Sherrod Brown, Senator Warren's running mate, voted against the Immigration Act of 2007 that would have reinforced and secured our borders by increasing the number of border agents, would have reformed our immigration system and would have gave immigrants a path to citizenship. And here's what Senator Warren got wrong on immigration : she doesn't understand that we are facing a huge flow of Syrian refugees. We won’t be able to take more refugees. It’s not that we don’t want to, it's that we can't. We could be open to the relocation of some of these individuals at some point in time to the U.S. But we will always be concerned that someone with a terrorist background could also sneak in among the refugees in order to cross the borders and commit terrorist attacks on our national territory.

If I'm President, we're going to secure our borders in order to make sure we'll stop any criminal or terrorist to cross the borders by hiring 20 000 new border agents. We'll have mandatory E-verify, a mandatory entry/exit tracking system, thus bringing illegal immigration under control. I will make it a priority for the first year of my first term because the sooner we bring illegal immigration under control, the sooner we can reform our immigration system to ensure a path to citizenship for immigrants, which will help them to live better lives and to finally accomplish the American Dream here on the land of opportunity.


WARREN:3. I would create a pathway to citizenship for any immigrant who has not committed a felony, or serious misdemeanor, or is not wanted by the authorities in their home country, unless they seek asylum here. I would increase the number and pay of Border Guards. One thing I would not do is build a wall, like some on the right are proposing. It's counterproductive and a waste of money, as undocumented immigrants will find a way into the country anyways. Each of my colleagues, with the exception of Congressman Paul has made parts of decent proposals. If you combine mine to theirs, I think you get a good overall proposal
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« Reply #1314 on: October 23, 2017, 10:01:54 PM »

WALLACE: Security is a top concern among voters and the issue of hacking, will likely face the next President. How are we to respond to the issue and how do we prevent such an attack from happening again?

RUBIO: Well, let me start by saying that Wikileaks affirmed that the Russian government has engaged in espionage against Americans. They have hacked American websites, American accounts of private people, of institutions. Then they have given that information to WikiLeaks for the purpose of putting it on the Internet. This has come from the highest levels of the Kremlin, from Putin, in an effort, as 17 of our intelligence agencies have confirmed, to influence our election. I find it disturbing that Congressman Paul is the only presidential candidate in this race who did not condemn these cyber-attacks. No wonder that Daily Leak noted that documents stolen and released by Edward Snowden demonstrated that Congressman Paul gave secret government information to Vladimir Putin during his time in Congress and these were documents about Russia's imperialist policies in Eastern Europe. No wonder that he supports Russia's illegal occupation of Crimea as well as Putin's influence in Syria in addition of wanting to shut down NATO, which will undermine international freedom, stability and security and make our enemies stronger.

We'll also have to fight cyber-terrorism since ISIS is leading cyber-attacks against us. ISIS hackers tried to infiltrate computers that regulate the nation’s electricity grid, planned to crash passenger jets by hacking into on-board electronics and to trigger a nuclear attack against our country by sending rogue commands to nuclear power plants. That's why we have to reinforce our cyber-security. It requires going after ISIS and other radical Islamic terrorists online. We need to do much more with our tech companies to prevent ISIS and their operatives from being able to use the Internet to radicalize, even direct people in our country and Europe and elsewhere. It requires reporting if companies happen to notice online terrorist activity, encourage information sharing between the federal government and the private sector to adequately respond to cyber threats, while maintaining privacy protections, use American power to respond harshly to international cyber attacks on American citizens, businesses, and governments. But sadly, that is something Senator Warren opposes since she voted against the Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act of 2015. So she demonstrated irresponsibility by voting against a bill aimed at making sure we'll prevent such cyber-attacks will never happen again. The American people has suffered terrorist attacks for too long and that's why I'm reiterating my commitment to fight and defeat radical Islamic terrorism on every single area, whether it's on land, from the air and online.


SANDERS: We need to upgrade our cybersecurity systems to reflect the 21st century; they are woefully out of date.

However, we should welcome transparency in our government. Edward Snowden, Chelsea Manning and other people like them have done this country a great service by revealing just what our military and government have been doing. Furthermore, if we're so worried about our secrets being stolen, then we need to ask oursevles: What secrets is our government hiding?

We already know what Senator Warren and the Democratic National Committee were trying to hide, and the reveal of this information was a public service. I support Snowden coming home and Manning being freed from prison with no strings attached. They did a public service, and we should be celebrating whistleblowers, rather than persecuting them.

WARREN: The DNC hack was a disaster on many levels. It cost me a friendship with a colleague of mine, and may well have cost me the election. The next President will have much to do to prevent such hacks from occurring in the future. He or She should order counter hacks against known hackers like Iran, Russia and North Korea, impose harsh sanctions on those who hack us like Russia, and if necessary be willing to work with our regional allies to isolate hackers across Asia, like China and North Korea, and Europe, like Russia.

PAUL: I think there is a very simple way of preventing such thing from happening, there are many very talented people, specially young people that can help us to defend our country from cyber attacks, what I'm saying is that we should reach these people and offer them deals to employ them and order them to defend our country.

While I think that defending our documents is important, I don't think this justifies the idea that we should jail Snowden and similar people, what people like Snowden and Manning did is justifiable, what they did was to give more transparency to us, Snowden for example shown that the government was spying on you and breaking the 4th amendment, Manning shown that the US was violating international treaties and bombing countries secretly like Yemen, these type of people, that show government corruption should be protected by the government, they should not be hanged, jailed, exiled, called traitors or something similar, they're patriots for exposing corruption and the government breaking our rights, they should be pardoned instead
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« Reply #1315 on: October 23, 2017, 10:04:31 PM »

WALLACE: Turning now to the economy and the subject of creating jobs: please explain to me why you believe your plan will create more jobs and growth for this country and your opponent's plan will not

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PAUL: I think my plan will create more jobs because it will bring actual free market and not regulated trade and state sponsored monopolies, my plan for the economy begins with a tax cut, my plan is to abolish the income tax, so people will have more of their own money, still talking about taxes, I'll also reduce the corporate tax to 15%, this will make companies stay in the country and will make them generate more revenue, so they will be able to expand more and create more jobs, my plan also involves leaving the TPP and other similar treaties like NAFTA and the WTO, because they help the government to become bigger, they bring regulated trade, which is different from free trade and regulated trade is bad, it hurts the economy, and they help corporations to create with help of the government, government sponsored monopolies, after leaving these treaties we will negotiate real free trade deals with other countries, I would also end many regulations, regulations only hurt small business that can't afford the costs. With this plan alone, our economy would already grow much faster, it would create jobs, give people more money, help small business to grow and bring back jobs to areas like the Rust Belt, and there are still much more things that I'm not talking about because they would help us to reduce our debt and keep inflation low and not with jobs, like ending the Federal Reserve, reintroducing the gold standard and cutting spending in many areas.

My plan is better than my opponents plans for many reasons, it is better than Warren's and Sanders' plan because I will cut regulations and taxes that are hurting small business from all over the country, their tax plans as well as the fact that they want more government intervention in the way of regulations will hurt our small business, make jobs leave and hurt our economy. And my plan is better than Rubio's plan because he want to keep us on the globalist big government deals like the TPP, NAFTA and the WTO, which promote regulated trade and government sponsored monopolies which are bad for the economy.

RUBIO: We are living the slowest economy in our country's history and that is due to this administration's trickle-down government policies that increased taxes and regulations, made us more dependent on foreign energy and made America a harder place to do business. Senator Warren's plan will bring more of the same by doubling taxes and that will be a disaster. There is one thing Senator Warren doesn't understand about the economy : it's businesses and corporations that create jobs, not the government. And 70 % of jobs come from small businesses and yet Senator Warren wants to tax and regulate small businesses. I am a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship and of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation. I know what it takes to make American businesses, including small businesses, growing again to create jobs. President Obama's War on Coal, that Senator Warren is supporting and wants to pursue, has proven to be a failure and killed over 25 000 jobs, including in Ohio, the home state of your running mate Sherrod Brown. Meanwhile, Congressman Paul is adopting populist policies that have proven to be a failure as we saw during the Great Depression with the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 that increased tariffs and reduced American exports and imports, thus increasing unemployment rate from 8 % in 1930 to 25 % in 1932. America needs jobs, not populism and populism means more government as well as restriction of free enterprise and free market.

The best way to ensure and increase economic growth is to make America the best place in the world to do business. So we need to reduce taxes for all the American people, including the middle class and lower income Americans in order to reinforce their purchasing power. We also need to reform our education system through school choice, end the War on Coal, encourage oil drilling in order to create jobs through taking advantage of all of our sources of energy and using a part of revenues from oil drilling to develop renewable energies. We have to pursue our quest for open markets by promoting free trade, lowering tariffs, making American products more accessible for international consumers, reducing taxes and regulations on America's manufacturing industry and cutting our corporate tax rate from 40 % to 20 %, which will help us to bring jobs back home, to keep creating jobs through fairer free trade deals for America and to make America the best business-friendly environment in the world, which also requires cutting taxes on businesses and corporations, reducing the cost of doing business in America, which will reinforce our businesses' capacity to innovate, to produce and to create jobs. And finally, we have to develop our infrastructure through budget surpluses once the budget balanced, which will facilitate economic and commercial activities all across America and encourage future business people to open their business here in the United States, thus ensuring further job creation here in America, the land of opportunity. My plan will create 14 million new jobs and finally get our country to full-employment.

SANDERS: Well, as President Lyndon B. Johnson said, « Republicans simply don't know how to manage the economy. » And Senator Warren even embraced Republicans' economic policies since she was a Republican before becoming a Democrat unlike me who has fought for progressive causes since the 1960s. In addition, if Senator Warren is so anti-Wall Street, I don't understand why she still supports the Ex-Im Bank while it loans out taxpayer money to big politically-connected corporations and banks. Like I said, the Ex-Im Bank is corporate welfare at its worst. And even Barack Obama has said that the Ex-Im Bank has become little more than a fund for corporate welfare when he ran for President in 2008. I don't think that's progressive. That's why that's why progressives can't trust Senator Warren in making sure that rich people will pay their fair share.

So my plan is to create jobs is to withdraw from NAFTA and TPP in order to put American jobs first, invest in green energies in order not only to create jobs but also to bring a clean and ecological environment, invest in infrastructures in order to facilitate our country's economic activities, reduce taxes for small businesses while increasing taxes on big corporations and raising the minimum wage to 15 $/hour.

WARREN:]Reaganonmics simply do not work. Nine out of Ten economists have said so consistently. What does work is raising taxes on people who make money, thus filling the coffers of the government
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« Reply #1316 on: October 23, 2017, 10:13:39 PM »

WALLACE: Turning to foreign policy, specifically the middle east: If we are able to push ISIS out of Mosul and out of Iraq, would you be willing to put U.S. troops in there to prevent their return or something else?

WARREN: No, I would not. We've already put our troops in Iraq once, and that's how we got ISIS, who's to say they won't have a resurgence if we do it again?


RUBIO: As we've seen, our troops' early withdrawal in 2011, which my opponents supported, while our job to train Iraqi troops and to make sure they take full responsibility of Iraq's security was not yet completed created a vacuum and allowed ISIS to rise, to conquer a large territory and to commit terrorist attacks around the world, including in Garland, San Bernardino, Orlando, Paris, Nice and Brussels. If we don't take real action against ISIS, Iraq will be once again a safe haven for terrorism like in the past when Saddam Hussein gave sanctuary to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad terrorist who was involved in the millennium plot, a terrorist attempt to commit bombing attacks against tourist sites in Jordan as well as against the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) and the USS The Sullivans in the context of millennium celebrations. There is a saying that "those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it". Senator Warren's weak foreign policy will move us backwards. No wonder that she wants Joe Biden as her Secretary of State, which will ensure the continuation of Obama's foreign policy that gave us ISIS. America needs change in terms of foreign policy.

So we need to have the courage to take real action against ISIS. It requires increasing our defense budget in order to reinforce and modernize our military. We have to strengthen and extend our alliances in the region, to send all the necessary military arsenal and troops in Iraq and Syria in order to fight ISIS by striking them on their territory and freeing these territories from their occupation. We also need to deprive ISIS of its oil refineries by securing them and give them back to the people of Iraq and Syria, which will deprive ISIS of the money they need to organize and prepare terrorist attacks and we must arm the right groups in the Middle East (including the Peshmerga) through background checks. That way, terrorists who are pretending to be mainstream Syrian rebels will not get weapons. If you're too dangerous to be armed, you will not get weapons. That's how we're going to find and capture or kill Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and defeat ISIS. Under my leadership, our troops will complete their duty to train Iraqi forces and make sure that the Iraqi army will be fully prepared to ensure its country's security, to fight terrorism and to prevent any ISIS-like force from emerging.

PAUL:  No way! We already seen the result from this type of foreign policy, just look to Iraq, Libya and similar countries, this failed foreign policy promoted by Bush, Obama and now Rubio and Warren has failed, by sending troops to there we will make more people see us as filthy foreign invaders, this will make them hate us, they will claim their lives are worse because of us, which depending on the case, might be true, and then they'll strike, they'll join or create terrorist groups that want to see America and all the Western Civilization burn, nation building has been shown ineffective.

Instead, what I propose os that we should let the people from Iraq, from Kurdistan and from Syria rebuild themselves, let them take care of their own problems after we defeat ISIS, intervening there after ISIS is defeat is signing the declaration of wanting that terrorists appear again. The way to keep peace in the Middle East is to not intervene, and that's exactly what I'll do, because ai don't want to see new terrorists there killing innocent people and oppressing people in the territories that they control.

SANDERS: No. Our military intervention in Iraq caused all the mess in which Iraq is actually. And I'm astonished that Senator Warren wants to select Vice-President Biden as her Secretary of State while we all know that just like Barack Obama, he is just another liberal-hawk. He voted in favor of the invasion of Iraq in 2003, he supported the military intervention in Libya in 2011, which was a failure and created a vacuum fulfilled by jihadists. And he also supports drone strikes that, most of the time, accidently kill innocent people. So if Senator Warren is elected, she will embrace the same Republican-like hawkish policies of President Bush and President Obama.

We need to form a coalition of anti-ISIS nations in the Middle East. Part of this will necessitate working with some unsavory people. Assad in Syria for example. However, we have a common enemy, and offering material and diplomatic support is an excellent way to get some policy concessions from them. The same goes for Iran. We need to both hold an anti-ISIS Middle Eastern coalition together, and gain concessions from the leaders of these countries.
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« Reply #1317 on: October 23, 2017, 10:16:32 PM »

WALLACE: At this point Social Security and Medicare are going to run out -- the trust funds are going to run out of money. Will you, as president, consider a grand bargain, a deal that includes both tax increases and benefit cuts to try to save both programs?

SANDERS: Absolutely. You know why? Because even though the Affordable Care Act was a marked improvement over our old system, it didn't go far enough and President Obama has failed to establish grand bargain for Obamacare, but I will.

WARREN: I would not. We need the tax increases on things like the payroll tax, and other new taxes that could be directed to Social Security, Medicare, SNAP, and Medicaid far more than it would be politically realistic to consider benefit cuts.

Paul; L: Once again, no way! This doesn't mean I don't want to save both of them, I want to, in my opinion, both if them, the way they are today, are unconstitutional and shouldn't be allowed, so as president, I have a solution to save both of them and solve the problem with both being unconstitutional, the solution is to privatize them both.

Some might say them is a horrible thing, but just look to Chile, a country that privatized social security and is the most developed nation in South America, both social security and Medicare, we would not only help our economy because we would have to spend less, but it would also be better for the American people, because the private sector is much more efficient than the government and by privatizing them, competition will be able to appear, and competition is always great to the consumer, because both companies will have better service for lower costs

RUBIONo, I will not raise taxes because it will only make things worse and make it much more difficult for our people to have access to health services, to healthcare and to Social Security.

I would say that to say that Obamacare has some problems would be the equivalent to saying the Titanic has some problems. It has enormous problems. Number 1, it's running up our debt. Number 2, people are losing their coverage. In about 3 weeks, millions of Americans are going to lose their coverage again. If you look at the kind of numbers that it will cost us in 2017, it's a disaster. If we don't repeal and replace Obamacare, it's probably going to collapse on its own weight. Healthcare premium costs are going up 60 %, 70 %. We can't afford to get things worse like Senator Warren wants to do by keeping Obamacare that will keep depriving insurance companies of money by bankrupting them and that will keep taxing our people across this country in order to bailout insurance companies.

By the way, one of the things I'm proudest of is I led an effort to defund a bailout fund that they had built into Obamacare. They had put into Obamacare a fund where they were going to use taxpayers' money to bail out private insurance companies who lost money under Obamacare and I prevented that from happening and I will keep doing it as President.

Repealing and replacing Obamacare is crucial not only to save Medicare and to give the American people a fair chance for access to health services. It's also crucial to save the 10th Amendment of the Constitution of the United States. My healthcare plan will liberate states from many Obamacare burdens. It will oblige the Secretary of Health and Human Services to grant all state waiver requests unless they increase federal spending, and to issue a final decision on waiver applications within 6 months of receiving them. Under current law, waivers are at the secretary’s discretion and there is no deadline. The new waiver process will let states reduce premiums and health-care costs by bypassing a broad array of Obamacare provisions, including benefit mandates and requirements that all individual policies be part of a single risk pool. All of this new flexibility will substantially improve Washington’s fidelity to the 10th Amendment. It will give governors and state legislators the ability to reduce health-care costs for those who’ve struggled in the Obamacare era. It will help them to devote limited resources to those most in need. My healthcare plan represents the greatest expansion of state sovereignty in generations, which is why, when I become President, we will have a better free market healthcare system for the sake of our people's health and of the Constitution of the United States.
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« Reply #1318 on: October 23, 2017, 10:19:40 PM »

WALLACE: You all had not agreed to closing statements, but it seems to me in a funny way that might make it more interesting because you haven’t prepared closing statements. So I would for each of you to take -- and we're going to put a clock up -- a minute as the final question, in the final debate, to tell the American people why they should elect you to be the next president.

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RUBIO: When I started my campaign by announcing my candidacy for President, I started it on a program aimed at leading America and all the American people to a New American Century.

We have a chance of having real leadership. Since too long, America has been ripped apart due to increased violence and tensions. Since too long, America is suffering a sluggish economy in which big government has killed opportunities as well as good-paying jobs. Since too long, America and its allies are suffering terrorist attacks but this administration has done nothing but cutting in our military budget and in our security measures and withdrawing from the fight against terrorism.

This election will decide whether my four children and yours will be the most prosperous generation of Americans that ever lived or if they will be the first generation of Americans to inherit a country in decline.

So in 3 weeks, the question that will be asked to the voters is whether they want a third term like the last eight years or they want real great change. I listened to the American people all around the country, and I understand their concerns.

We can't change anything by having another 4 years like the last 8 years while Senator Warren is adopting the same economic program as President Obama and wants Joe Biden as her Secretary of State even though this administration has failed to keep our country safe and to defeat ISIS.

This kind of change includes permanent economic prosperity through free market solutions, energy independence, budget balance, free trade, education reform, small business championing and infrastructure development. Thanks to my experience as member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship and of the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science and Transportation, we will achieve America's prosperity.

This kind of change requires peace through stronger alliances, a stronger military and a stronger diplomacy in order defeat terrorism and tyranny and restore peace, freedom and integrity around the world. With my experience as a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations and of the U.S. Senate Committee on Intelligence, we will defeat global terrorism and keep America free and safe.

Such kind of change requires stronger unity among the American people. That's why, throughout this campaign, I showed my willingness to put the different parties together and to work with Republicans, Democrats and Independents to find real solutions to accomplish common goals and get things done whether it's on economic issues, social issues or foreign policy issues. That's why our country is called the United States of America. That's why we need to put our differences aside in order to get things done. That's why w need to trust the American people. And I trust the American people in their judgement and their willing to get our country together once and for all and to make sure that we make great accomplishments for a brighter future for America. That's why I'm running for President.

We need strong leadership. I seek to be that leader. I'll work for you. I will put your interests first. That's why I ask for your vote. I want to be President for all Americans, whether they are conservatives, liberals, progressives, libertarians or independents. I want to get America back on track and on the right direction and together, we will ensure that America will keep its status as the hope of the Earth.

Thank you very much.


PAUL: I think you should vote to elect me for president because I have been in Congress, and am today in this stage the biggest fighter for your rights and you liberty, I have always opposed the killing of unborn, I have always opposed big government, I have always fought to end surveillance, I have always fought for the Constitution. I think that our liberty is something untradable and that we shouldn't give it for security, because just like Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who trade freedom for security, get neither", that's why I oppose the espionage our government does, it breaks our rights that are in 4th amendment, my economic plan is based on the principles of the Austrian economics school, which made countries like Switzerland, Liechenstein and Chile good countries to live, I have voted against my party many times because I wanted to stick for my principles of only voting for something if it is authorized by the Constitution, I'm not someone who is driven by it's party ideology, instead, I'm driven by my own ideas, my foreign policy is similar from the one from Washington, a non interventionist foreign policy that wants us to look more to our own problems than the problems from other people, a foreign policy that wants to bring our sons and daughters back home rather than send them to places where they can die... That's why I think you should vote for me, and I hope, you consider me on election day.

SANDERS: I believe our economy has to be fair for all Americans, not just the top 1 %. That's why I will increase taxes on the top 1 %, increase the minimum wage to 15 dollars/hour, focus on green energies, take on Wall Street and reform it, restore Glass-Steagall and withdraw from unfair trade deals.

On foreign policy, I don't believe we have to be the world's police and to spend so much money for endless wars. I will promote diplomacy and work with our Arab allies and with Russia to defeat ISIS.

If you want change and turn the page to the last 16 years, then I'm asking for your vote.

WARREN: As much as it pains me to defeat the first Latino, or first Jewish President...think of the honor America will get in the world by electing their first female President.
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« Reply #1319 on: October 23, 2017, 10:23:42 PM »

Debate Snapshot:

Who won?
Rubio: 32%
Paul: 24%
Warren: 20%
Sanders: 17%

Next round will last until Monday 10/30/17 at 10:00 pm est
Oct 30-30, 2016
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« Reply #1320 on: October 24, 2017, 02:19:19 PM »

What Pearcy Did

Pearcy campaigned in New Mexico and Hawaii on healthcare and wall street reform.

Pearcy also campaigned in Ohio and Michigan on a a brand new version of the TPP that is different from what Warren and Obama are proposing
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« Reply #1321 on: October 27, 2017, 08:28:15 AM »
« Edited: July 08, 2018, 09:29:22 PM by UWS »

Rubio/Pearcy 2016
A New American Century
Schedule October 20-October 30 2016, Part 1

October 20
-Flight to Honolulu, Hawaii
-Meet with voters in Honolulu, Hawaii with Linda Lingle
-Foreign policy speech in Honolulu, Hawaii with Linda Lingle
-Trade policy speech in Honolulu, Hawaii with Linda Lingle
-Immigration policy speech in Honolulu, Hawaii with Linda Lingle
-Economic policy speech at Matson Inc. headquarters in Honolulu, Hawaii with Linda Lingle :

So Senator Warren claims that we have no chance of winning Hawaii on November? Well, the same has been said about Barack Obama's chances of winning Indiana (a Republican stronghold) in 2008 and he won that state by a close margin. We're going to prove Senator Warren wrong. That requires that all of you go to the polls on November 8 or during the days of advance polling and cast your vote for me. And another reason why Hawaii is orienting towards us is because Hawaii residents pay the most per person in state taxes in the United States. Millions of tourists pay general excise tax and hotel room tax. The Hawaii Tax Foundation indicated that the state's tax burden is too high, which it says contributes to higher prices and the perception of an unfriendly business climate. And yet both Senator Warren and Senator Sanders want to keep taxing the American people, including the people of Hawaii, even more and they both want to increase the size of government even more.

[Crowd boos]

The right way to grow the economy and to create jobs is to make the government smaller, not bigger. It is to make America the best business-friendly environment in the world. That's what I'm going to do as President of the United States by cutting taxes and regulations for everyone and for all businesses across this country. Approximately 7 out of 10 jobs come from small businesses and that's why small businesses' fiscal burden needs to be reduced right now. By cutting taxes for businesses, we're going to increase their ability to compete, to emerge, to expand, to innovate, to produce and to create jobs. By reducing our corporate tax rate in half, we're going to make America a better business-friendly place and make our trade deals fairer for America, thus ensuring the return of our lost jobs back here in America as well as stronger job creation for our people through free market and through the continuation of our quest for open markets in the world. When the budget will be balanced, we're going to invest a part of budget surpluses to the development of infrastructures in this country, which will facilitate economic and commercial activities all across America and encourage future business people to open their business here in the United States, thus ensuring further job creation here in America. As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Small Business and Entrepreneurship, I know what is required to get businesses working again and to get this economy working again. That's why I'm asking for your support for the sake of a stronger and fairer economy for all Americans.

[Crowd cheers and applauds]

-Meet with voters in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii with Linda Lingle
-Foreign policy speech in Pearl Harbor, Hawaii with Linda Lingle :

Here we are, in Pearl Harbor, where we were attacked by the Japanese 75 years ago, which caused our entry in World War II. Today, Hawaii is in North Korea's line of fire. North Korea is about to get nuclear weapons that could reach here in Hawaii as well as Alaska and the Western Coast. We must not take any option off the table, not even the military option, because we must be ready to every kind of scenario. That requires a strong military ready to fight North Korea's threat. But Senator Warren wants to pursue this administration's cuts in defense budget, which is putting our military at its smallest size since World War I and making America an easier target for its enemies and foes. This is irresponsible for America's national security. We'll do the exact contrast in order to make us ready for every eventuality and to make us able to fight back and to defeat our enemies. But we can avoid such a conflict thanks to a stronger diplomacy. I demonstrated clear leadership on this matter by successfully introducing the North Korea Sanctions and Enhancement Policy Act of 2016 that increased sanctions on any individual, company or bank around the world that serve as financial intermediaries for dollar transactions to North Korea to help Kim Jong-un to evade U.N. sanctions and to fund the development of nuclear weapons. We're going to put North Korea back on the list of state sponsors of terror, impose additional sanctions on North Korea's leadership who holds significant assets overseas, make sure that China will do more to stop North Korea's nuclear threat, rebuild our military alliances in the Asia-Pacific region and reinforce our military presence in that region and recommit to missile defense. That is how we're going to avoid any war with North Korea while obtaining victory. If we want peace, we'll have to be ready for war and that's what we're going to do by promoting peace through strength.

[Crowd cheers and applauds]

October 21
-Flight to Reedsburg, Wisconsin
-Meet with voters in Reedsburg, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Wauston, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Small government policy speech in Wauston, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Elroy, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in New Lisbon, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Energy policy speech in New Lisbon, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Elroy, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Manufacturing policy speech in Wisconsin Dells, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Appleton, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Counter-terrorism policy speech at Appleton War Memorial in Appleton, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Economic policy speech at Pierce Manufacturing  headquarters in Appleton, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker :

Once again, Senator Warren has proven that she doesn't know the history of our own country. During the third and final debate, she said that Reaganomics do not work. Do I need to remind you, Senator, that the Reaganomics reduced the inflation from 12.5 % to 4.4 %, increased the annual growth of real GDP to an average of 3.4 % and created 16 million jobs? 16 million. Meanwhile the economic policy of Jimmy Carter clearly failed due to the rise of big government, of inflation and energy prices. Those who don't learn from history are condemned to repeat it and history will repeat itself if Senator Warren is elected. Her only proposal during the debate was to raise taxes on people who make money, thus filing the coffers of government, nothing else.

[Crowd boos]

Government is the problem that caused all that mess but unfortunately that's something Senator Warren doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand. The right way to boost our economy is to cut taxes for all the American people, including the middle class, in order to reinforce their purchasing power and to reduce taxes and regulations for businesses in order to increase their ability to compete and to create jobs. By taking advantage of all of our sources of energy, including oil, gas, coal, nuclear, electric, solar and wind energies, we will get to energy independence and instead of using taxpayers' money like Senator Warren wants to do, we're going to use a part o revenues from oil drilling to invest in the development of renewable energies. By pursuing our quest for open markets, by reducing taxes on our manufacturing industry and by lowering our corporate tax rate from 40 % to 20 %, we're going to get fairer trade deals for America, bring jobs back home and ensure further job creation in America. We're going to balance the budget, abolish the IRS and replace it with a 15 % flat tax and we're going to establish a balanced budget amendment in order to make sure we'll bring government spending under control. That's how we're going to achieve America's prosperity.

[Crowd cheers and applauds]

-Meet with voters in Grand Chute, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Little Chute, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Menasha, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Tax policy speech in Menasha, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Kimberly, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Free enterprise policy speech in Kimberly, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
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« Reply #1322 on: October 27, 2017, 10:21:30 AM »
« Edited: October 27, 2017, 10:39:15 AM by UWS »

Marco Rubio Campaign Ad
In an effort to attract voters who selected foreign policy and terrorism as the most important issue of this election as well as voters who want an honest and trustworthy person as their president, Marco Rubio's campaign broadcasts an ad attacking Elizabeth Warren for fundraising off of the Benghazi scandal caused by the terrorist attack orchestrated against the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 2012.

The ad titled « Shameful » airs in Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Texas, Virginia, Washington and Wisconsin

« Shameful » advertisement narration :



Narrator : On September 11 2012, due to a lack of security measures and equipment and to the Obama administration's lack of leadership, radical Islamic terrorists attacked the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, Libya, and killed 4 U.S. ambassadors.


In addition of describing the investigation on these events as a waste of time while it is aimed at finding out the truth about what really happened in Benghazi and about why these 4 Americans were killed while they attempted to maintain peace and diplomacy in the region, Elizabeth Warren fundraised off the Benghazi scandal. On May 9 2014, the same day she wrote a piece on her website against the investigation, there was a donation marker on the side of her website that asked for money because she saw this tragedy as an opportunity to raise money. After several journalists exposed Warren for her hypocrisy, her website has since changed and the donation request has been removed.



Who knows if some of the money Senator Warren raised from the tragedy in Benghazi is now being used to fund her own presidential campaign for the actual presidential election. It is shameful of Elizabeth Warren to fundraise off a terrorist incident that killed Americans and innocent people, including when these fundraising operations are done for political purposes and aimed at boosting personal political ambitions.


Combined with the weak and dangerous foreign policy of the last 8 years that drastically cut in the military, gave us ISIS and stronger terrorist threat, that got the world closer to a nuclear Iran (the biggest state sponsor of global terrorism), that allowed terrorist attacks against us in Garland, San Bernardino, Orlando and New York and that Senator Warren is supporting and wants to pursue, her fundraising operations done from these events in Benghazi and from the Benghazi scandal clearly demonstrated that Elizabeth Warren is unqualified to be Commander-in-Chief.



An opportunist and corrupt politician ready to fundraise from anything, including a terrorist event like this one, is the last person America needs as Commander-in-Chief. America needs an honest President who will tell them the truth no matter what and who has the experience to keep America safe. If you want such a leader, then Marco Rubio is your candidate.


Marco Rubio is an honest and straight-talking man of integrity who never nor will ever fundraise from a terrorist disaster. He will tirelessly fight corruption. As a member of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations and of the U.S. Senate Committee on Intelligence, Marco Rubio has the right experience, knowledge, leadership and background to keep America safe and to defeat global terrorism. As President of the United States, he will increase the FBI's counter-terrorism budget, reinforce our security measures and our homeland security, prevent ISIS and their operatives from being able to use the Internet to radicalize, reinforce and modernize our military by increasing our defense budget, ensure our troops' readiness, stand with our allies and strengthen our alliances, track and strike terrorists wherever they are through our military strength, secure ISIS' oil refineries in order to deprive them of the money they use to finance their terrorist activities and arm the right groups in the Middle East through background checks in order to make sure we will only arm anti-terrorist forces and deprive terrorists disguised as mainstream rebels of weapons. He will stop Iran's nuclear threat by restoring sanctions against Iran in order to deprive them of the necessary capitals to keep sponsoring terrorist groups and to develop nuclear weapons, by putting in place an anti-missile shield that will intercept and shut down any nuclear missile launched by Iran against us or our allies, including Israel, and by adopting a stronger diplomacy that will make sure that Iran will use its nuclear energy sources to ensure Iran's economic growth, not for military purposes.



Marco Rubio, the leader our country needs for a stronger integrity, for the restoration of internationral peace and for a stronger, safer and freer America.

Marco Rubio : I'm Marco Rubio and I approve this message.
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« Reply #1323 on: October 27, 2017, 01:05:32 PM »

Rubio/Pearcy 2016
A New American Century
Schedule October 20-October 30 2016, Part 2

October 22
-Meet with voters in Chilton, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Tax reform policy speech in Chilton, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Wrightstown, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Fiscal responsibility policy speech in Wrightstown, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Bear Creek, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Nichols, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Meet with voters in Green Bay, Wisconsin with Paul Ryan and Scott Walker
-Marco Rubio appears at a Ron Johnson re-election campaign rally at the Resch Center in Green Bay, Wisconsin, where he speaks on behalf of Senator Johnson while describing his opponent Russ Feingold as weak on terrorism since he's the only one senator who voted against stronger security measures after 9/11.
-Economic policy speech at Schneider National headquarters in Green Bay, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Health care policy speech at Bellin Health in Green Bay, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Free and fair trade policy speech in Green Bay, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Meet with voters in Avon, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Meet with voters in Porter, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Meet with voters in Orfordville, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Manufacturing policy speech in Orfordville, Wisconsin with Ron Johnson
-Flight to Bedford, Ohio
-Meet with voters in Bedford, Ohio with John Kasich
-Manufacturing policy speech at Tendon Manufacturing headquarters in Bedford, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in Cleveland, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in Barberton, Ohio with John Kasich
-Tax policy speech in Barberton, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in Norton, Ohio with John Kasich
-Energy policy speech in Norton, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in New Franlin, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in Green, Ohio with John Kasich
-Trade policy speech in Green, Ohio with John Kasich
-Coal policy speech in Green, Ohio with John Kasich
-Meet with voters in Akron, Ohio with John Kasich
-Energy policy speech at FirstEnergy Corporation headquarters in Akron, Ohio :

Since the last 4 decades, America's coal industry is on decline. Throughout all these years, we saw the loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs and we saw our path to energy independence getting much more difficult. Barack Obama's War on Coal killed over 25 000 jobs in the last 8 years through higher taxes and regulations on America's energy industry in addition of shipping American jobs as well as American coal plants to China where regulations on coal are lower. foreign companies are now coming in buying so many of our different plants and then re-jiggering the plant so that they can take care of their oil. Only from 2014 to 2015, the War on Coal cost Ohio 600 jobs, 1300 jobs in Pennsylvania and 800 jobs in Virginia.

Sherrod Brown, Elizabeth Warren's running mate, has completely shifted his position on energy. In 2008, he was among the 4 Democratic Senators who voted against a Cap and Trade Plan. Now he joined Elizabeth Warren, one of the greatest supporters of the War on Coal who wants to put all the miners out of business. So Senator Brown has abandoned you. He has abandoned coal miners while they desperately need jobs in order to obtain a salary, to make money, to raise their families and to live their American Dream.


[Crowd boos]

When I'm President of the United States, we will end the War on Coal by reducing taxes and regulations on our coal industry, thus bringing coal jobs back home, creating more jobs, helping us developing clean coal technologies and make our path to energy independence easier. We will promote clean coal through carbon capture and storage technologies. In order to facilitate coal's transportation from mines to markets, we will approve the construction of more coal pipelines. Coal produces renewable energy because it is burned for the production of electricity and heat and is the largest source of energy for the generation of electricity worldwide. And in order to boost the number of American jobs created through the construction of Keystone XL pipeline, we'll have to cut a deal with TransCanada to make sure that the pipeline will be built with U.S.-made pipe and with U.S. steel. By increasing oil drilling, exploitation and production, we will not only create millions of jobs but also get revenues, which a part will be invested into the development of renewable energies (including wind, solar, nuclear, hydroelectricity, etc. ) in order to pursue further job creation and to improve our ecological footprint.

That's why I am asking for your vote in order to make sure we'll get to American Energy Revolution for the sake of America's status as energy leader in the world, of a stronger economic prosperity and a clean environment.


[Crowd loudly cheers and applauds]

October 23
-Meet with voters in Jefferson, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Foreign policy speech in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Trade policy speech at the Port of Ashtabula in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Energy policy speech in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Coal policy speech in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Immigration policy speech in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Infrastructure policy speech in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Fundraising event at Ashtabula Arts Center in Ashtabula, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Massillon, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Manufacturing policy speech in Massillon, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Agriculture policy speech in Massillon, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Health care policy speech in Massillon, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Tax reform policy speech in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Gun rights policy speech in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Free and fair trade policy speech in Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Kettering, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Tax policy speech in Kettering, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Manufacturing policy speech in Kettering, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Small government policy speech in Kettering, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Middletown, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Free enterprise policy speech in Middletown, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Cincinnati, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Economic policy speech in Cincinnati, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Counter-terrorism policy speech in Cincinnati, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Free market policy speech in Cincinnati, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Energy independence policy speech in Cincinnati, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Hamilton, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Bowling Green, Ohio with Rob Portman
-Meet with voters in Northwood, Ohio with Rob Portman
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« Reply #1324 on: October 27, 2017, 03:47:14 PM »
« Edited: October 28, 2017, 08:11:57 AM by NHI »

State Polling: Oct. 21, 2016

Arizona:
Rubio: 50%
Warren: 42%
Paul: 3%
Sanders: 1%

Nevada:
Rubio: 49%
Warren: 44%
Paul: 4%
Sanders: 2%

Oregon:
Warren: 47%
Rubio: 39%
Sanders: 10%
Paul: 2%

Colorado:
Warren: 43%
Rubio: 40%
Paul: 7%
Sanders: 7%

New Mexico:
Warren: 49%
Rubio: 45%
Paul: 2%
Sanders: 1%

Hawaii:
Rubio: 34%
Warren: 31%
Sanders: 27%
Paul: 7%

Ohio:
Warren: 45%
Rubio: 45%
Sanders: 3%
Paul: 2%

Wisconsin:
Rubio: 47%
Warren: 47%
Sanders: 2%
Paul: 1%

Michigan:
Warren: 46%
Rubio: 45%
Sanders: 3%
Paul: 1%

Pennsylvania:
Rubio: 47%
Warren: 45%
Sanders: 2%
Paul: 1%

Virginia:
Warren: 48%
Rubio: 46%
Sanders: 1%
Paul: 1%

Minnesota:
Warren: 45%
Rubio: 44%
Sanders: 8%
Paul: 1%

New Hampshire:
Warren: 34%
Rubio: 33%
Paul: 15%
Sanders: 13%

Maine:
Warren: 39%
Rubio: 37%
Paul: 9%
Sanders: 9%

Missouri:
Rubio: 50%
Warren: 44%
Sanders: 3%
Paul: 1%

North Carolina:
Rubio: 48%
Warren: 44%
Sanders: 2%
Paul: 1%

Alaska:
Rubio: 45%
Warren: 37%
Paul: 11%
Sanders: 5%

Illinois:
Warren: 50%
Rubio: 43%
Sanders: 2%
Paul: 1%

National Polling: Four Way Race (Rubio +3)

Rubio: 44%
Warren: 41%
Sanders: 5%
Paul: 4%

National Polling: Two-Way Race (Rubio +2)/b]

Rubio: 49%
Warren: 47%

538 Election Prediction: Tracking % Oct. 21, 2016
Marco Rubio: 43% Chance of becoming President
Elizabeth Warren: 33% Chance of Becoming President
Deadlocked Election: 24% Chance of Happening

Electoral Map: Based on Current State Polling
Rubio: 272
Warren: 235
Sanders: 3
Tied States: 28
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