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Emmanuel Macron/Nick Clegg/Renhō(Unity Democratic Alliance)
 
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Bernie Sanders/Jeremy Corbyn/Sonia Gandhi(Democratic Left)
 
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Marine Le Pen/Virginia Raggi/Cristina Fernández de Kirchner(Right Nationalist Democracy)
 
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António Costa/Tsai Ing-wen/Choo Mi-ae(Liberal Devolution)
 
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Vladimir Putin/Renato Usatîi/Vladimir Zhirinovsky(Central Commune Bloc)
 
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Jean-Luc Mélenchon/Zinaida Greceanîi/Lidia Yermoshina(Federal Alliance)
 
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Nicola Sturgeon/Baggio Leung/Pierre Karl Péladeau(Autonomous-Independence United)
 
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Total Voters: 69

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Zuza
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« on: April 27, 2017, 11:57:34 AM »

Many of these options are bizarre.

Only the following ones seem to have clear ideologies:
UDA - social liberalism
DL - social democracy (although Sanders and especially Corbyn are way to the left of an average social democrat and Gandhi is to the right)
AIU - autonomism/secessionism

LD seems to be just another mainstream social liberal or moderate social democratic party, so it's redundant.

CCB, I guess, supposed to be a pro-Russian/pro-Putin party (though if Putin actually was in charge of it, he wouldn't choose someone as insane as Zhirinovsky), being pro-Russian isn't an ideology but at least there is some logic.

RND and FA just don't make sense in their current shape.

Neither M5S nor Kirchner are nationalist, at least in the same sense Le Pen is nationalist, and they are definitely not right-wing; and while FN and M5S can cooperate on the European level, I don't know what common goal they can share with each other and with Kirchner in the UN.

FA, I presume, is a party for "authoritarian leftists", but actually Mélenchon would better fit into DL (instead of Gandhi), Zinaida Greceanîi would much better fit into CCB and Yermoshina hardly can be described as a leftist at all.

Needless to mention the options lack conservative, Christian democratic and Islamist parties.

And choices are not only France-centric but also ridiculously Moldova-centric (2 candidates from such a tiny country), and a total absence of politicians from mainland China looks strange.
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Zuza
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2017, 12:03:19 PM »

The RND is obviously mostly right wing, but also includes left-populists who like Melenchon but dislike his party's pro-Russian stance.

So RND includes leftists who don't join Federal Alliance because of Melenchon's supposedly pro-Russian stance but OK with Le Pen's pro-Russian stance?!
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Zuza
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2017, 09:06:04 PM »

Why do you think Mélenchon is more blatant Putinist than Le Pen? I think most people would say the opposite: that Le Pen is more blatant.
By the way, M5S and Kirchners are also quite pro-Russian.
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Zuza
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 04:01:11 PM »

There are a lot of persons of little relevance on these lists: Renato Usatîi is a mayor of a city of 100 thousand people, and this is the most significant office he ever occupied; Lidia Yermoshina hardly can be described as a politician at all: she is just a head of electoral commission of Belarus.

But we know nothing about the timeline where this election happens, so in theory anything is possible.
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