French Legislative Election 2017

[Antonio the Sixth]

So apparently EM (or LREM, now, I guess) won't ask candidates to leave their own parties, but it will ask them to run under its label and for a single parliamentary group. Good. That way we can tell the traitors from those worth supporting.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Le Pen won 45 constituencies yesterday,

Is there a map available?

Here: http://www.laprovence.com/article/presidentielle-2017/4439716/presidentielle-les-resultats-du-second-tour-par-circonscription.html

Edit: here is a better one, but only for constituencies won by Le Pen.

Challenge for BRTD: drive from Paris to Amsterdam without driving through a constituency that voted for Le Pen.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Valls officially sells out.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It's then end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine).

"Manny are you goofin' on Macron? Are you havin' fun?"

you guys.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Anyway, yeah, good f**king riddance. The traitors will join FBM and go down in flames with him. The real socialists, meanwhile, will have a chance to rebuild.

[Antonio the Sixth]

It's then end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine).

"Manny are you goofin' on Macron? Are you havin' fun?"

you guys.

Honestly I would vote for R.E.M. if they just ran Michael Stipe everywhere.

So would I! Not sure if you know, but R.E.M. is actually my favorite band.

So, for this reason, can we please refer to FBM's abomination of a "party" as LREM instead?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Valls joining EM is Macron's first presidential blunder.

The second will be Bruno Le Maire.

Yeah, I imagine a collective "oh crap" just ripped through the country.

There's a nonzero chance that Valls will be Macron's PM.

That would be hilarious tbh.

But no, I don't think FBM is that dumb (though Valls might be dumb enough to believe it).

[Antonio the Sixth]

Any chance of the rest of PS fusing (or at least running in a common platform) with Melenchon (or whatever is left of his movement)?

That seems like a good thing to get as many left wing MPs as possible. Might also lead to a weird hung parliament (or even an LR majority with the opposition split)

Ugh, I hope so. Unless they do that it's quite possible that no left-wing candidate makes into the runoff in many (most?) constituencies.

[Antonio the Sixth]

LREM says that Valls must apply for a nomination like everybody else, and they say that a candidate is already nominated in Valls' constituency, they will "analize" the situation.

hahahahahaha beautiful

I admit I'm slightly tempted to use a certain alt-right term beginning with a c (but I won't).

[Antonio the Sixth]

   Does the Republicains platform still call for the various national referenda that Fillon wanted?

I mean it doesn't really matter, since only the President can call referenda.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Valls won't be LREM candidate in his constituency.

If you allow me to channel my inner BRTD.

[Antonio the Sixth]

*fait

[Antonio the Sixth]

Benchmarks from the rest of the Fifth Republic to keep in mind for the inevitable hideous defeat of the Left...

1958: 50 seats (SFIO 40, PCF 10)
1968: 91 seats (FGDS 57, PCF 34)
1993: 91 seats (PS 53, PCF 24, Others 14)

And with FG/FI and the PCF out for each other's blood, those results will look positively peachy in comparison!

Right now a sub-1958 result looks pretty likely, yeah.

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[Antonio the Sixth]

Macron and Mélenchon are both unacceptable.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Jaichind, it's LREM. Please.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Juppé now denying it.

Whoever leaked it was probably trying to rule him out. Now, in favor of who else, is the big question.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Agreement between Bayrou and LREM.
LREM has yet to formally accept the agreement this morning.

How many "winnable" seats did Bayrou extract?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Philippe is PM.

You can't see it, but I'm sighing really hard right now.

A right-winger as PM is actually good news. I was hoping for a more prominent LR figure, like Bertrand, but this isn't too bad. I really hope it will lead to at least some defections from the right.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Macron successfully destabilized the left, and now appears to successfully destabilize the right: it's now 173 LR politicians who call to work with Macron.

Good!

[Antonio the Sixth]

Le Maire is a big deal. Hopefully this is only the beginning and LR will end up splitting.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ugh Mélenchon needs to f**k off. What a piece of sh*t. I'd honestly vote for the LREM guy over him in that constituency if that's the choice.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ugh Mélenchon needs to f**k off. What a piece of sh*t. I'd honestly vote for the LREM guy over him in that constituency if that's the choice.

Really? Given that Macron's cabinet makes it look like he intends to govern as a more socially liberal version of LR, I would have thought it was crucial to put as many left-wingers in parliament as remotely possible.

The French left will never be able to rebuild as long as Mélenchon has any influence within it, because all Mélenchon wants is to destroy any left-wing force that isn't his own personality cult. He doesn't care about actually changing people's lives. He's happy to stay in the opposition forever, as long as it gives him the role of a hero. He's a self-serving megalomaniac clown and the left-wing opposition to FBM deserves better.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ugh Mélenchon needs to f**k off. What a piece of sh*t. I'd honestly vote for the LREM guy over him in that constituency if that's the choice.

Really? Given that Macron's cabinet makes it look like he intends to govern as a more socially liberal version of LR, I would have thought it was crucial to put as many left-wingers in parliament as remotely possible.

The French left will never be able to rebuild as long as Mélenchon has any influence within it, because all Mélenchon wants is to destroy any left-wing force that isn't his own personality cult. He doesn't care about actually changing people's lives. He's happy to stay in the opposition forever, as long as it gives him the role of a hero. He's a self-serving megalomaniac clown and the left-wing opposition to FBM deserves better.

To be honest, all current leftwing parties must be destroyed as they are led by incompetent morons, the Hollande presidency proving this point. So if he could destroy, that would be a good thing.

Destroy them to replace them with what, exactly? The left is facing an existential threat right now. If left parties die, they won't be replaced with Better Ones. The political space is already too crowded now, so their space will readily be filled by a combination of FI and LREM.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ugh Mélenchon needs to f**k off. What a piece of sh*t. I'd honestly vote for the LREM guy over him in that constituency if that's the choice.

Really? Given that Macron's cabinet makes it look like he intends to govern as a more socially liberal version of LR, I would have thought it was crucial to put as many left-wingers in parliament as remotely possible.

The French left will never be able to rebuild as long as Mélenchon has any influence within it, because all Mélenchon wants is to destroy any left-wing force that isn't his own personality cult. He doesn't care about actually changing people's lives. He's happy to stay in the opposition forever, as long as it gives him the role of a hero. He's a self-serving megalomaniac clown and the left-wing opposition to FBM deserves better.

Sounds more like Corbyn. Melenchon actually came within a hair's breadth of the runoff, had Hamon dropped out, it would've happened. Do you have any other beef with Melenchon besides his supposed opposition fetishism?

His entire strategy has been to direct all his efforts against the PS and other left-wing parties. Someone who does that has no interest in building a force that can actually win elections and enact meaningful changes. Oh, sure, maybe some day he will be President at the rates things are going these days, but that doesn't mean he'll be able to win a majority, or do much good with it if it's not made entirely of yes-men.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I hope Hamon rebuilds the party, he is a good politician & a decent person & more preferable to Melenchon!

I hope so too, but what Mélenchon is doing is to make sure that this rebuilding never happens. He wants to kill the PS outright and leave no room for any political force between him and FBM. This is, again, the best way to ensure that the French left remains irrelevant.