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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2017, 10:43:38 AM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Yep.  People here never like this answer, but that is how most states change.  For example, right now young Virginians and Virginians who moved there from other states vote MUCH more Democratic than older and native Virginians, but it's apparently more appealing to focus solely on NOVA "switching parties" because the Republicans are "crazy" and stuff like that.  It's never the only explanation, but it always plays a big role.  The South quite simply got more Republican as more Northern conservatives moved there, period.  Vermont got more Democratic as more liberals moved in from NY/MA/CT/etc., period.  Colorado got more Democratic as more outsiders and Hispanics moved in, period.  The list goes on.
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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2017, 10:53:40 AM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Yep.  People here never like this answer, but that is how most states change.  For example, right now young Virginians and Virginians who moved there from other states vote MUCH more Democratic than older and native Virginians, but it's apparently more appealing to focus solely on NOVA "switching parties" because the Republicans are "crazy" and stuff like that.

Trump got the least amount of raw votes for a Republican in Fairfax County since 1980. That didn't happen on accident.
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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2017, 11:04:16 AM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Yep.  People here never like this answer, but that is how most states change.  For example, right now young Virginians and Virginians who moved there from other states vote MUCH more Democratic than older and native Virginians, but it's apparently more appealing to focus solely on NOVA "switching parties" because the Republicans are "crazy" and stuff like that.

Trump got the least amount of raw votes for a Republican in Fairfax County since 1980. That didn't happen on accident.

Like I said, it's never the only reason, and Fairfax County voted for Democrats long before Trump.
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« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2017, 11:25:08 AM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Dems aren't moving to Wyoming any time soon. Maybe to Boise, but it would require a really large and sustained movement to have much effect.
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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2017, 11:57:32 AM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Dems aren't moving to Wyoming any time soon. Maybe to Boise, but it would require a really large and sustained movement to have much effect.

They'd also need to move there at near 3-1 margins more often than Republicans would relocate there ... it's like this forum thinks there aren't any well-off Republicans who move to different areas, haha; the only people who move ANYWHERE are White liberals.
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« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2017, 12:23:56 PM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Dems aren't moving to Wyoming any time soon. Maybe to Boise, but it would require a really large and sustained movement to have much effect.

They'd also need to move there at near 3-1 margins more often than Republicans would relocate there ... it's like this forum thinks there aren't any well-off Republicans who move to different areas, haha; the only people who move ANYWHERE are White liberals.

Bear in mind too there's studies that suggest people who move to areas are influenced by local politics.
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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2017, 04:54:28 PM »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Yep.  People here never like this answer, but that is how most states change.  For example, right now young Virginians and Virginians who moved there from other states vote MUCH more Democratic than older and native Virginians, but it's apparently more appealing to focus solely on NOVA "switching parties" because the Republicans are "crazy" and stuff like that.  It's never the only explanation, but it always plays a big role.  The South quite simply got more Republican as more Northern conservatives moved there, period.  Vermont got more Democratic as more liberals moved in from NY/MA/CT/etc., period.  Colorado got more Democratic as more outsiders and Hispanics moved in, period.  The list goes on.

This is precisely why I think the conservatives cheering that Millennials are finally starting to move out into the suburbs are in for a rude awakening in the 2020's.
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« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2017, 05:04:47 PM »

Those two states are the LEAST likely to go Democratic in coming elections. The Democrats need to focus on the east coast, namely North Carolina and Georgia.

By the time Wyoming and Idaho flip (maybe 2100s), you'd probably see the Rust Belt become solid Republican states.
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« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2017, 07:12:31 PM »
« Edited: May 15, 2017, 08:13:55 PM by TDAS04 »

Anyway the only way I could see this happening is if so many Democratic-leaning people move into Idaho and Wyoming that the composition of the state changes. The current population of those two states is never going to vote Democratic.

Yep.  People here never like this answer, but that is how most states change.  For example, right now young Virginians and Virginians who moved there from other states vote MUCH more Democratic than older and native Virginians, but it's apparently more appealing to focus solely on NOVA "switching parties" because the Republicans are "crazy" and stuff like that.  It's never the only explanation, but it always plays a big role.  The South quite simply got more Republican as more Northern conservatives moved there, period.  Vermont got more Democratic as more liberals moved in from NY/MA/CT/etc., period.  Colorado got more Democratic as more outsiders and Hispanics moved in, period.  The list goes on.

You're right about Virginia.  Its leftward trend is largely based on demographic shifts.  In fact, Virginia is actually a state where suburban growth (in NOVA) relative to the rural areas has helped Democrats beautifully.
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