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« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2004, 01:08:49 PM »

If Feingold is picked can he simulataneously run
for Senate in WI?  Or will he have to give up his seat?   I can see the logic of this choice, but I believe his voting record is so liberal that he won't sway enough centrist voters to help.  
Mondale tried Geraldine Ferraro in ' 84 to capture the female vote, but it back-fired.  Clark is the obvious choice but he isn't lighting the wolrd on fire in the polls yet.  Are there any Democrat mayors that qualify???
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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2004, 01:10:21 PM »

If Feingold is picked can he simulataneously run
for Senate in WI?  Or will he have to give up his seat?   I can see the logic of this choice, but I believe his voting record is so liberal that he won't sway enough centrist voters to help.  
Mondale tried Geraldine Ferraro in ' 84 to capture the female vote, but it back-fired.  Clark is the obvious choice but he isn't lighting the wolrd on fire in the polls yet.  Are there any Democrat mayors that qualify???

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« Reply #52 on: January 01, 2004, 01:10:35 PM »

If Feingold is picked can he simulataneously run
for Senate in WI?  Or will he have to give up his seat?   I can see the logic of this choice, but I believe his voting record is so liberal that he won't sway enough centrist voters to help.  
Mondale tried Geraldine Ferraro in ' 84 to capture the female vote, but it back-fired.  Clark is the obvious choice but he isn't lighting the wolrd on fire in the polls yet.  Are there any Democrat mayors that qualify???

Yes, he can run simultaneously for senate in Wisconsin.  Lieberman did the same thing in 2000, and when Gore lost, he kept his Senate seat.
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« Reply #53 on: January 01, 2004, 03:45:59 PM »

TN will not be in play no matter what.  Frsit will be there reminding them that he is majority leader and can do more for TN with a GOP President.

Are you in Australia, Miami?


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
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Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.
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« Reply #54 on: January 01, 2004, 03:49:15 PM »

Not sure if Feingold can run or not.  worked on the law in SD to get it passed preventing Daschle from doing it Smiley

Plus Feingold does not take PAC money and so to try and run both with a lot of absence and no money int he home state would be very risky for the senate seat.


If Feingold is picked can he simulataneously run
for Senate in WI?  Or will he have to give up his seat?   I can see the logic of this choice, but I believe his voting record is so liberal that he won't sway enough centrist voters to help.  
Mondale tried Geraldine Ferraro in ' 84 to capture the female vote, but it back-fired.  Clark is the obvious choice but he isn't lighting the wolrd on fire in the polls yet.  Are there any Democrat mayors that qualify???

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« Reply #55 on: January 01, 2004, 04:05:56 PM »

TN will not be in play no matter what.  Frsit will be there reminding them that he is majority leader and can do more for TN with a GOP President.

Are you in Australia, Miami?


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
Hello from Melbourne international!

Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

The last time I checked, Melbourne was in Australia. Smiley
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« Reply #56 on: January 01, 2004, 04:06:58 PM »

TN will not be in play no matter what.  Frsit will be there reminding them that he is majority leader and can do more for TN with a GOP President.

Are you in Australia, Miami?


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
Hello from Melbourne international!

Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

The last time I checked, Melbourne was in Australia. Smiley
There is a Melbourne, Florida.
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« Reply #57 on: January 01, 2004, 04:09:12 PM »

TN will not be in play no matter what.  Frsit will be there reminding them that he is majority leader and can do more for TN with a GOP President.

Are you in Australia, Miami?


If Dean is going to pick a southerner he should go with Edwards.  Edwards could appeal to the upper south, something that Graham can't do.  Edwards would also only be 58 in 2012; Graham would be 75.

Why pick Edwards?  He is not even popular in his own state.
Hello from Melbourne international!

Well, he would put the other southern states in play, even if he doesn't do that with NC.  Arkansas and Tennessee would be brought into toss-up range.

The last time I checked, Melbourne was in Australia. Smiley
There is a Melbourne, Florida.
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« Reply #58 on: January 01, 2004, 04:37:34 PM »

I still maintain that Graham would be the best candidate for Dean.  Dean won't be thinking about how old Graham would be when he himself ran for President, but rather how he would help.

And I don't care what anyone says, Vice President's DO help with Electoral Votes and public image.  
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« Reply #59 on: January 01, 2004, 04:40:34 PM »

It will be Graham or Clark most likely.  Both have strengths  and weaknesses.

I agree Dean cares about Dean, not the future of the party.  He is running vs the party now and blasting Terry McAuliffe and calling DLC Democrats Republicans.


I still maintain that Graham would be the best candidate for Dean.  Dean won't be thinking about how old Graham would be when he himself ran for President, but rather how he would help.

And I don't care what anyone says, Vice President's DO help with Electoral Votes and public image.  
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« Reply #60 on: January 01, 2004, 04:53:26 PM »

It will be Graham or Clark most likely.  Both have strengths  and weaknesses.

I agree Dean cares about Dean, not the future of the party.  He is running vs the party now and blasting Terry McAuliffe and calling DLC Democrats Republicans.

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It all comes down to a question of saving face now.  I think there is too much bad blood between Dean and Clark, so Dean will most likely turn to Graham as his choice in order to not be eclipsed.

As for Terry McAuliffe and the DLC Dems, I like to refer to them as nothing but Diet Republicans (whether that be a good thing or not is a matter of perspective I guess)
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« Reply #61 on: January 01, 2004, 06:50:39 PM »

It will be Graham or Clark most likely.  Both have strengths  and weaknesses.

I agree Dean cares about Dean, not the future of the party.  He is running vs the party now and blasting Terry McAuliffe and calling DLC Democrats Republicans.

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It all comes down to a question of saving face now.  I think there is too much bad blood between Dean and Clark, so Dean will most likely turn to Graham as his choice in order to not be eclipsed.

As for Terry McAuliffe and the DLC Dems, I like to refer to them as nothing but Diet Republicans (whether that be a good thing or not is a matter of perspective I guess)
Well, yes, McAuliffe is Clinton's pet boy. He is more of a Conservative/Moderate/Centrist, just like President Clinton is.
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« Reply #62 on: January 01, 2004, 06:52:44 PM »

I don't like McAullife.  He has done more bad than good if you ask me.
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« Reply #63 on: January 01, 2004, 07:55:25 PM »

Yeah losing Terry would be the worst part of Dean getting the nomination for us Republicans Smiley


I don't like McAullife.  He has done more bad than good if you ask me.
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« Reply #64 on: January 01, 2004, 07:58:46 PM »

I heard Janet Napalotono, AZ gov mentioned as a possible running mate for Dean today.

Woman, new governor from 2002 and could make a play to AZ in general election.

Drawbacks-inexperienced, really would start to look like Mondale campaign then with a woman on the ticket, which cuts pro and con for Dean; essentially gives GOP, FL, AR, MO, LA and the entire rest of the South.
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« Reply #65 on: January 01, 2004, 08:26:09 PM »
« Edited: January 01, 2004, 08:27:21 PM by Michael Zeigermann »

Napalotono is far too inexperienced... and people are saying Ford and Edwards are too young. Besides, you're right, a Dean/Napalotono ticket would definitely carry shades of Mondale/Ferraro.

How do you think Graham would affect the Southern vote?
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« Reply #66 on: January 01, 2004, 08:44:21 PM »

He might have some sway in FL, but FL is always distant from outside the rest of the South.  Plus the FL border states are GA and SC, which both will go to GOP easily.  He doesn't help rest of the south either, he was anti-war also in his votes.  He helps Dean more if elected being able to run the senate jobs and his resume is great, but remember when Graham attacked Bush in the campaign ( if you can call what graham did Campaigning) his numbers dropped to their lowest levels ever.  Plus his calls for impeachment made him look crazy and part of the radical radical left.


Napalotono is far too inexperienced... and people are saying Ford and Edwards are too young. Besides, you're right, a Dean/Napalotono ticket would definitely carry shades of Mondale/Ferraro.

How do you think Graham would affect the Southern vote?
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« Reply #67 on: January 01, 2004, 09:41:16 PM »

There's a very interesting piece on Weeklystandard.com entitled "Leftward, Ho?" that speculates that Dean may think he has a chance to win some Southern states by appealing to black voters by putting someone like Kweisi Mfume on the ticket.

It sounds kind of far-fetched to me, but who knows?  Whatever will be will be, right?  We'll just have to wait and see.

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« Reply #68 on: January 01, 2004, 09:54:27 PM »

Maybe it would help cement Black vote for the future but it doesn't gain them a lot as they get most of the black vote now.  

Would be a first though to have a black man on a national ticket, which is interesting.


There's a very interesting piece on Weeklystandard.com entitled "Leftward, Ho?" that speculates that Dean may think he has a chance to win some Southern states by appealing to black voters by putting someone like Kweisi Mfume on the ticket.

It sounds kind of far-fetched to me, but who knows?  Whatever will be will be, right?  We'll just have to wait and see.

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« Reply #69 on: January 01, 2004, 10:41:32 PM »

Yeah losing Terry would be the worst part of Dean getting the nomination for us Republicans Smiley


I don't like McAullife.  He has done more bad than good if you ask me.
You're not the only Republican that I've heard saying that.
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« Reply #70 on: January 01, 2004, 10:48:29 PM »

well McAulliffe promised to take back the House, keep the senate , beat Jeb , beatthe recall and win the the KY and MS gov races and so far he has delivered ZERO!

He foolishly kept trying to throw money into FL Gov race when McBride blew that last debate and was sinking fast, instead of trying to hold the senate in some closer races.

Now GOP is likely to make more House and Senate gains and if Bush wins, another sweep will make him look really bad.  But if Dean wins he is toast.  That is why I had to laugh when dean calle don him to "save me from the democrats!" Smiley as McAullife is fired if Dean wins so why would he want to help him?


Yeah losing Terry would be the worst part of Dean getting the nomination for us Republicans Smiley


I don't like McAullife.  He has done more bad than good if you ask me.
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« Reply #71 on: January 01, 2004, 10:50:40 PM »

Bill Clinton should be the next leader of the DNC.
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« Reply #72 on: January 01, 2004, 10:54:30 PM »

Honestly that would be a good idea; but Dean will e picking it so no chance!

--Hey thought you were going to the Orange bOwl or something?


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« Reply #73 on: January 01, 2004, 11:00:04 PM »

Honestly that would be a good idea; but Dean will e picking it so no chance!

--Hey thought you were going to the Orange bOwl or something?


Bill Clinton should be the next leader of the DNC.
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« Reply #74 on: January 01, 2004, 11:03:25 PM »

Well was glad to see my IOWA HAWKEYES lay a whooping on the Gators today!  37-17


Honestly that would be a good idea; but Dean will e picking it so no chance!

--Hey thought you were going to the Orange bOwl or something?


Bill Clinton should be the next leader of the DNC.
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