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« on: May 11, 2017, 09:48:10 PM »

Which States will be called as soon? Which will be too close to call?
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 04:31:09 AM »

If it's a 10-point PV win against a GOP incumbent/Trump, then that likely means GA, AZ & even TX are all going Democratic, albeit narrowly. There likely would have needed to be a huge revolt in the Sunbelt/South and also in the bluer areas of the NE where Dems lost ground.

All of the other swing states - with the exception of IA & OH - would likely be firmly in the Democratic column, with none of them being called more than an hour after the polls closed. I could see the Midwest and Rust Belt holding out somewhat in this situation, only swinging by maybe half as much as the nation as a whole, which would leave Trump winning IA & OH while losing MI/WI/PA by mid-single digits.

I think it'd be a long night in IA/OH, as well as maybe in a couple of western states like MT. Maybe it even takes a few days to see who won AK.



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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 06:50:01 AM »

TX and ME-2 are tossups
Ohio and Iowa tilt D
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« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2017, 01:21:55 PM »

States called at their closing times:

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« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2017, 04:05:38 PM »

Hillary Clinton as a straight white man in 2016.
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« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2017, 04:12:51 PM »

Hillary Clinton as a straight white man in 2016.

Is it really so hard for you to believe that is the only thing holding her back?
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2017, 04:48:58 PM »

Hillary Clinton as a straight white man in 2016.

Is it really so hard for you to believe that is the only thing holding her back?

The reason she lost, when it gets down to it, is because people hate her. I mean, we can talk about her strategy and the voters she chose to target and chose to ignore, and it might have been enough to tip an election that was so very close if only her message had been better, but the sheer hatred of her meant this really was not going to be a blowout... even though, really, it should have been.

And if we get into the reasons why people hate her, most of them are pretty elusive and not actually centred on policy or messaging. If it wasn't e-mails or Benghazi, it would be something else. And none of these would have blown up and clung to her if she had been he. So yeah. I believe misogyny and double standards hugely colour the perceptions people have of Hillary Clinton. Without that baggage, I see no reason why "he" wouldn't have won by a large margin despite the flawed messaging.

Send me to the wolves, I guess.

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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2017, 05:38:34 PM »

Hillary Clinton as a straight white man in 2016.
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2017, 11:44:06 PM »

Hillary Clinton as a straight white man in 2016.

Imagine thinking that a male version of Clinton would've won the Democratic primary in 2016. Her potential to be the first female President was literally her only selling point to Democratic voters.

I liked her for her experience and pragmatism
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