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« on: May 12, 2017, 10:39:57 PM »

Probably. A few things that they can likely do:

-Leak everything they know about Trump, or make sure it ends up in the hands of Democratic Congressmen.
-Harass and investigate Trump allies and go over everything they do with a fine tooth comb, like that recent raid on the GOP fundraiser in Maryland. Wonder if Chris Christie is going to get hit hard over Bridgegate stuff.
-Leak names of known informants and assets of the FSB in Russian criminal organizations, a de facto death sentence for anyone leaked.

But yeah I bet there's going to be something.
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« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2017, 10:41:40 PM »

Is the Pope Catholic?
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« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2017, 11:46:48 PM »

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2017, 12:08:26 AM »

Hopefully not, since that isn't how law enforcement is supposed to work.

In any case:

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2017, 11:09:24 AM »

Hopefully not, since that isn't how law enforcement is supposed to work.

In any case:

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2017, 11:25:57 AM »

Nah
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« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2017, 11:26:25 AM »

Comey already turned down the offer to testify next week so methinks the FBI will follow his lead.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2017, 11:28:48 AM »

The best retaliation will be the completion of their investigation which will lead to Trump removed from office.  The Constitution is the best revenge!
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2017, 11:43:27 AM »

Comey already turned down the offer to testify next week so methinks the FBI will follow his lead.
Yeah about that http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/fbi/333241-comey-willing-to-testify-but-only-in-public-report
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« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2017, 11:46:08 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2017, 01:06:14 PM »

Hopefully not, since that isn't how law enforcement is supposed to work.

In any case:

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2017, 04:06:02 PM »

Hopefully not, since that isn't how law enforcement is supposed to work.

In any case:

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2017, 08:37:11 PM »

I hope not because intelligence services should not be acting a fool.
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2017, 08:38:59 PM »

Comey already turned down the offer to testify next week so methinks the FBI will follow his lead.

he wants to testify in public and not in private, as we learned today.
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2017, 09:03:08 PM »

I don't know, the water seems pretty dry today.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2017, 09:06:40 PM »

Hopefully not, since that isn't how law enforcement is supposed to work.

In any case:

Is it retaliation if they just do their jobs and prove he's a crook and/or a traitor?
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2017, 11:13:47 PM »

You do not cross the FBI, BATF, Marshal's Service, Secret Service, IRS, CIA, or the Armed Forces. Those fellows know what they are doing, and they have ways to get back at people. Prosecution or political ruin are normal stock in trade of these people.

Much news reporting is the reporting of material from official sources. Plenty of reporters will jump at the opportunity to use material supplied by a law enforcement or intelligence agency or the Armed Services. 
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2017, 11:26:46 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2017, 11:34:22 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2017, 11:39:09 PM by TD »

The FBI doesn't do political retaliation in that overt sense. But what they can and will do is make life harder for Donald Trump. Our national security and law enforcement agencies are political, especially when it comes to dealing with Congress and the President. The FBI agents may not do much but the political advocates and the higher up appointees may take political actions, e.g, leaking, and looking a little harder on certain aspects of Trump's dealings.

Here's a good example. Every year, the DoD does political advocacy for its budget items. The generals go to Capitol Hill, lean on the Senators and Congressmen and have their priorities ready. Technically, they're not supposed to do this. They're supposed to let the Secretary of Defense advocate for them (and he does). But they do have their ways of pushing Congress' buttons. Routinely, the agencies fight huge battles with Congress and the Administration sometimes to preserve their projects.

in short, if you're high up in Washington, you play the political game, and you surely most definitely have an agenda. This is not new - this has been part of Washington since J. Edgar Hoover sat down as FBI Director. If you believe that the FBI Director, the CIA Director, or any of these high up agency heads don't have an agenda ... you're wrong.

This is why Presidents don't screw around with the natsec establishment and the law enforcement establishment. Going to war with these two groups is not considered a good idea.

Does anyone remember when Colin Powell introduced Bill Clinton to the undercarriage of the bus on gays in the military, because the military wasn't ready? Bill Clinton had to walk back it, and do DADT, because the military threw its weight around. Technically, they weren't supposed to ... he is the commander in chief. But hey, they had an agenda.

EDIT: Comey's leaks are definitely being done with the sanction of the upper management of the FBI, most likely. The agents leaking all over the place is definitely a political move to put the president on defense. That's the power game and that's also, not coincidentally, one of the parts of Washington Trump least understands.
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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2017, 11:35:15 PM »
« Edited: May 13, 2017, 11:38:16 PM by TD »

This book has a lot to say about this topic. And yes, it was written in the 1980s. Yes, that's in the heyday of the Reagan era. Here's the NYT review of that book.
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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2017, 11:44:29 PM »

Comey already turned down the offer to testify next week so methinks the FBI will follow his lead.

Reports are he will only testify if it's public
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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2017, 05:49:38 AM »


Does it not mean that we'll get a lot of answers that sound like
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2017, 06:54:55 AM »

No.

While the Comey thing is important, there are too many Trump threads focused on his personality rather on issues which matter to voter. This is 2016 all over again & this tactic will probably get Trump re-elected.
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