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« Reply #125 on: June 05, 2022, 04:51:42 AM »

Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable (slippery slope reasons)
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
. No exception for consensual affairs / polygamy.
But why?

Not the OP, but polygamy is generally associated with a lack of women's rights.
The thing about consensual affairs makes it clear that it isn't just that association.

I just don't like pretending that the polygamous, polyamorous, and open relationship people are normal or acceptable, or that what they do qualifies as marriage in the Western sense even if they have a marriage license.
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« Reply #126 on: June 05, 2022, 08:50:36 PM »

Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable (slippery slope reasons)
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
. No exception for consensual affairs / polygamy.
But why?

Not the OP, but polygamy is generally associated with a lack of women's rights.
The thing about consensual affairs makes it clear that it isn't just that association.

I just don't like pretending that the polygamous, polyamorous, and open relationship people are normal or acceptable, or that what they do qualifies as marriage in the Western sense even if they have a marriage license.
Why should they not be acceptable? Because they feel icky to you?
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« Reply #127 on: June 05, 2022, 09:13:54 PM »
« Edited: June 05, 2022, 10:03:42 PM by Southern Delegate and Atlasian AG Punxsutawney Phil »

Polygamy is neither special nor unusual, overall, in terms of how its core dynamics operate, and in historical terms, polygamous relations are far from unheard of, whether they are recognized in the law or not. Furthermore, how things operate is very dependent on personalities, regardless of how many people are in the equation. What polygamy introduces is the element of multiple spouses and how they get along with each other. If they get along they generally become, together, the dominant party, by sheer numbers. Because this is human beings we're talking about, it varies from person to person and family to family, and we can't generalize too much.
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« Reply #128 on: June 06, 2022, 01:15:09 AM »

All of my stances are either 100% or 0%. I'm not a pansy, I stick to my guns.
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« Reply #129 on: June 07, 2022, 03:05:52 PM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable

The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable

Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
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« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2022, 04:23:55 PM »

Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable (slippery slope reasons)
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
. No exception for consensual affairs / polygamy.
But why?

Not the OP, but polygamy is generally associated with a lack of women's rights.
The thing about consensual affairs makes it clear that it isn't just that association.

I just don't like pretending that the polygamous, polyamorous, and open relationship people are normal or acceptable, or that what they do qualifies as marriage in the Western sense even if they have a marriage license.
Why should they not be acceptable? Because they feel icky to you?

Yes. I reserve the right to know the difference between good and bad lifestyles. I'm thinking about the children.
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« Reply #131 on: June 09, 2022, 06:00:14 AM »

How are we defining acceptable? From the pure sin/not sin sense, many of these are unacceptable, but they are a factor caused by greater problems within humanity and society to the point they are important for people still. Also some “unacceptable” things I engage in.
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« Reply #132 on: June 09, 2022, 10:21:09 PM »

Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable (slippery slope reasons)
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
. No exception for consensual affairs / polygamy.
But why?

Not the OP, but polygamy is generally associated with a lack of women's rights.
The thing about consensual affairs makes it clear that it isn't just that association.

I just don't like pretending that the polygamous, polyamorous, and open relationship people are normal or acceptable, or that what they do qualifies as marriage in the Western sense even if they have a marriage license.
Why should they not be acceptable? Because they feel icky to you?

Yes. I reserve the right to know the difference between good and bad lifestyles. I'm thinking about the children.
Sure you are, buddy. Sure you are.
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« Reply #133 on: June 09, 2022, 10:23:53 PM »

Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable (slippery slope reasons)
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
. No exception for consensual affairs / polygamy.
But why?

Not the OP, but polygamy is generally associated with a lack of women's rights.
The thing about consensual affairs makes it clear that it isn't just that association.

I just don't like pretending that the polygamous, polyamorous, and open relationship people are normal or acceptable, or that what they do qualifies as marriage in the Western sense even if they have a marriage license.
Why should they not be acceptable? Because they feel icky to you?

Yes. I reserve the right to know the difference between good and bad lifestyles. I'm thinking about the children.
Sure you are, buddy. Sure you are.
Not to mention that not all relationships have young children, so even if we pretended that non-monogamous relationships inherently harmed children, it still wouldn't be a good justification. The kind of judgement you're making is the same kind of irrational BS that people who oppose gay rights and interracial marriage do
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« Reply #134 on: July 15, 2022, 09:08:05 PM »

Birth Control: Acceptable
Divorce : Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex : Acceptable
Gambling : Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations : Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage : Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research : Acceptable
The Death Penalty : Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide : Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing : Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals : Acceptable
Abortion : Acceptable

Sex Between Teenagers: Mixed (I wouldn't exactly call it "acceptable", but it shouldn't be demonized either)
Pornography : Acceptable
Cloning Animals : Acceptable

Suicide : Mixed (it's a tragic issue, I don't really think it's about morality)
Polygamy : Acceptable
Cloning humans : Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs : Unacceptable
(I'm assuming this refers to cheating on a partner without their knowledge or consent, open relationships and polyamory are obviously a different story)
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« Reply #135 on: July 15, 2022, 09:26:44 PM »

Birth Control: Acceptable
Divorce : Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex : Acceptable
Gambling : Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations : Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage : Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research : Acceptable
The Death Penalty : Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide : Unacceptable
Animal Fur Clothing : Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals : Acceptable
Abortion : Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers: Acceptable
Pornography : Acceptable
Cloning Animals : Acceptable
Suicide : Unacceptable
Polygamy : Unacceptable
Cloning humans : Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs : Unacceptable
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« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2022, 07:35:21 AM »
« Edited: July 16, 2022, 08:47:02 AM by Southern Governor LouisvilleThunder »

Acceptable ≠ Good, necessarily and Unacceptable ≠ Should be illegal, necessarily

Birth Control (91%): Depends on the type of birth control; it can have ill side-effects and abortion pills are immoral
Divorce (73%): Acceptable as some marriages are bound to turn ugly and run the risk of violence without this option in place, but it should come with with limits and cause by a fault
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable, but not ideal and not everyone comes from a super traditional family and community background
Gambling (65%): It's mostly just dumb to gamble and an unethical means of self-enrichment for casino owners and governments that sponsor gambling; you shouldn't gamble money you're not fine with lighting on fire; it's also addictive for some people and a vehicle for destroying family lives in many cases
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable, but sexualized aspects shouldn't be pushed on children in schools and in the media
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable, but not ideal
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Unacceptable, but China will do it if we don't anyway
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable, some brutal criminals definitely deserve it for their crimes, but the process and practice of pretty much makes it not worth pursuing
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unacceptable, people should be permitted to reject life support but the medical field and industry should not get involved in active assisted suicide
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable, not much to say other than it may not be so tasteful
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable, it's not so nice but humans are above animals and it works to help development of new medicines and treatments that help us live better and longer
Abortion (43%): Unacceptable except for cases involving reasonable exceptions (life and physical health of the mother, rape, and age of the mother)
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Not smart to do, but only because it makes life more inconvenient if it leads to pregnancy
Pornography (36%): The porn industry is a disgusting business, but transmitting and consuming images and videos of a lawful and consentual sexual nature without the aim of making money isn't immoral
Cloning Animals (32%): Could lead to a slippery slope if done with ill-intent by powerful actors in society
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable, but no punishments should be put on the family/deceased for doing so
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable; It's important for everyone to get an equal opportunity to find a spouse of their own, and it's not compatible with American society
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable, no people should be trusted with this kind of power, but China will probably open this Pandora's Box and we'll have to deal with the long term ramifications
Extramarital Affairs (9%): Unacceptable...but if the man has gotten a vasectomy, he has it coming
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« Reply #137 on: July 20, 2022, 08:10:17 PM »

All of them are okay except maybe the death penalty, which I oppose on a logistical basis.
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« Reply #138 on: October 24, 2023, 09:02:33 AM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable if forced, acceptable if offered as choice
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Unsure
Suicide (18%): Acceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
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« Reply #139 on: October 24, 2023, 08:45:04 PM »

Purely my personal morality. Not a statement on whether any of the following should be legal/illegal:

Birth Control (91%): Unacceptable
Divorce (73%): Unacceptable (specifically no-fault divorce)
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Unacceptable

Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Unacceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Unacceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Unacceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unacceptable

Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable

Abortion (43%): Unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Unacceptable (assuming the teens aren't married)
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable

Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable


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« Reply #140 on: October 27, 2023, 08:50:29 PM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Unacceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Unacceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Acceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Unacceptable
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Unacceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable

The above is based off of my views morally, not my opinion on whether they should be legal or illegal.
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« Reply #141 on: November 25, 2023, 08:35:17 PM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Unacceptable
Abortion (43%): Unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Acceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Acceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable
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« Reply #142 on: November 25, 2023, 11:56:06 PM »

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Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
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Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable

Bruh.
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« Reply #143 on: November 26, 2023, 12:01:28 AM »
« Edited: November 26, 2023, 12:06:10 AM by I hate NIMBYs »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Unacceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Unacceptable
Gambling (65%): Unacceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Unacceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unacceptable
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Acceptable if there are no other alternatives
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Unacceptable
Pornography (36%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Unacceptable
Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Animals (14%): Unacceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
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« Reply #144 on: November 26, 2023, 12:09:37 AM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
The Death Penalty (58%): Unacceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Unsure
Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unsure
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable
Suicide (18%): Acceptable (as in, it's not immoral to do yourself, though I wouldn't condone it!)
Polygamy (17%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (14%): Acceptable
Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable
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« Reply #145 on: November 26, 2023, 12:33:27 AM »

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Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
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Extramartial Affairs (9%): Acceptable

Bruh.

Polygamy is a disaster to society that has a tendency of crushing gender equality, which is why almost all early feminists campaigned strongly against polygamy and why countries with polygamy lag pretty badly in gender quality.

People engaging in open relationships, eh, I don't think it's workable for the vast majority of couples, but it's not as socially corrosive as polygamy.
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« Reply #146 on: November 26, 2023, 03:19:34 AM »

People engaging in open relationships, eh, I don't think it's workable for the vast majority of couples, but it's not as socially corrosive as polygamy.

An open relationship isn't an affair though? An affair implies it's being done without the other partner's knowledge or consent, i.e. cheating, while an open relationship is something that everyone involved has agreed to.
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« Reply #147 on: November 26, 2023, 03:57:42 AM »

People engaging in open relationships, eh, I don't think it's workable for the vast majority of couples, but it's not as socially corrosive as polygamy.

An open relationship isn't an affair though? An affair implies it's being done without the other partner's knowledge or consent, i.e. cheating, while an open relationship is something that everyone involved has agreed to.

Oh, fair, yeah, I read that differently.
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« Reply #148 on: November 26, 2023, 12:41:40 PM »

All are acceptable
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« Reply #149 on: November 26, 2023, 02:06:03 PM »

Birth Control (91%): Acceptable
Divorce (73%): Acceptable
Pre-Marital Sex (69%): Acceptable
Gambling (65%): Acceptable
Gay or Lesbian Relations (63%): Acceptable
Having a Baby out of Marriage (62%): Acceptable
Human Embryo Stem-Cell Research (61%): Acceptable
Death Penalty (58%): Acceptable
Doctor-Assisted Suicide (57%): Acceptable

Animal Fur Clothing (57%): Unacceptable
Medical Testing on Animals (51%): Acceptable
Abortion (43%): Unacceptable
Sex Between Teenagers (36%): Acceptable
Pornography (36%): Acceptable
Cloning Animals (32%): Acceptable

Suicide (18%): Unacceptable
Polygamy (17%): Unacceptable
Cloning Humans (14%): Unacceptable
Extramarital Affairs (9%): Unacceptable
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