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« Reply #1575 on: September 03, 2017, 01:52:10 PM »

Im not sure how many times I need to post this but you should never read too much into the daily fluctuations of a tracking poll. They are prone to wild jumps for no reason.

You are so partial that your opinion is worth little.
Well at least you gave me a good laugh.

Gosh darn it, how am I supposed to ignore Daniel if you quote him.


If nothing else, his English is improving.
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« Reply #1576 on: September 03, 2017, 02:37:41 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

It's called margin of error.
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« Reply #1577 on: September 03, 2017, 02:38:29 PM »
« Edited: September 03, 2017, 05:31:30 PM by TexasGurl »

Im not sure how many times I need to post this but you should never read too much into the daily fluctuations of a tracking poll. They are prone to wild jumps for no reason.


Well at least you gave me a good laugh.

Gosh darn it, how am I supposed to ignore Daniel if you quote him.


If nothing else, his English is improving.

The day-shift "Daniel" studied English a bit more in school than night-shift "Daniel".
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« Reply #1578 on: September 03, 2017, 02:49:48 PM »

Its also Labor Day weekend, i wouldn't put much stock in polling for the next few days.
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« Reply #1579 on: September 03, 2017, 04:21:29 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

CORRELATION. IS. NOT. CAUSATION.
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« Reply #1580 on: September 03, 2017, 07:44:08 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

CORRELATION. IS. NOT. CAUSATION.
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« Reply #1581 on: September 03, 2017, 08:42:55 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

Well, these are already obsolete. Thanks to dummy's DACA decision.
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« Reply #1582 on: September 03, 2017, 09:32:16 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

Well, these are already obsolete. Thanks to dummy's DACA decision.

I'm pretty sure the people who still approve of Trump are already on his side in the culture wars, and of the ones who disagree with the DACA decision, it probably wouldn't be enough to push them into disapproval.
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« Reply #1583 on: September 03, 2017, 11:46:46 PM »

Gallup:

Dissaprove: 58% (-3)
Approve: 36% (+2)

Looks like I was wrong, he is getting a Harvey boost. I'm doubtful it will be much though. Might break 40% again but that's it.

Well, these are already obsolete. Thanks to dummy's DACA decision.

I'm pretty sure the people who still approve of Trump are already on his side in the culture wars, and of the ones who disagree with the DACA decision, it probably wouldn't be enough to push them into disapproval.
Indeed. Actually acting on his campaign promises in the culture wars should only strengthen him amongst his base.
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« Reply #1584 on: September 04, 2017, 07:23:18 AM »

I expect him to be very strong with his base. Indeed, I expect him to excite it as few Presidents have ever excited the base. He makes his appeals to the viscera, and not to reason. Such is the strength of a demagogue, whether Hugo Chavez, Robert Mugabe, Corneliu Codreanu, or Mao Zedong.  He pretends to love the common man and hate the intellectual and small-business elites. (Hitler kissed up to the Master Class of industrialists, financiers, big landowners, and executives but offered the Jews as a scapegoat for all that was wrong in Germany).

It is not enough, usually, to win over a base. There were few Presidential nominees with such intense support among a small part of the population as Barry Goldwater and George McGovern. But intense support from 30% of the public and mild support from another 5% to 10% are not enough to win an election when utter rejection by 50% of the people is enough for defeat and slight rejection by about as many who aren't ready for someone who seems extreme.   

Donald Trump has shown where his class interests are -- with those who make big, easy money -- after running as a Man of the People. He has excited people with his bigotry, male chauvinism, and nostalgia for an easier time. Now people know, and they are beginning to ask questions about the meaning of his rhetoric.

Donald Trump always was a capitalist pig -- not an innovator and never shrewd as a manager except at $crewing contractors, finding cheap labor, and making sweetheart deals with local governments. But he always knew how to appeal to the basest derives in human character. Good reasons exist to avoid appealing to the basest drives in human nature; those drives typically hurt innocent people when they are exercised.
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« Reply #1585 on: September 04, 2017, 12:05:21 PM »

Gallup (September 3rd)

Approve 38% (+2)
Disapprove 56% (-2)


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Pretty big surge over the past 2 days. Still, Trump's approvals are so low that even a surge for him still puts him in a worse spot than Obama ever was.
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« Reply #1586 on: September 04, 2017, 12:30:39 PM »

Something is telling me the gallup numbers were artificially low and this is just a correction.
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« Reply #1587 on: September 04, 2017, 12:59:09 PM »

Something is telling me the gallup numbers were artificially low and this is just a correction.

Yeah, that and its Labor Day weekend so the numbers are probably noise.
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« Reply #1588 on: September 04, 2017, 01:00:16 PM »

Something is telling me the gallup numbers were artificially low and this is just a correction.

Yeah, that and its Labor Day weekend so the numbers are probably noise.

Besides that, his blaming of South Korea for North Korea's actions isn't exactly helping.
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« Reply #1589 on: September 04, 2017, 11:47:15 PM »

Yeah I guess y'all are right, it's just noise. People either love or hate this guy at the moment and he can't really benefit from anything.
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« Reply #1590 on: September 04, 2017, 11:54:58 PM »

New Jersey, Rutgers-Eagleton

Donald Trump approval 30-65

Chris Christie 16-79 approval

Robert Menendez 28-25 favorability

Cory Booker 54-23 favorability


Understand that by New Jersey politician standards that makes Booker near Jesus-level popular.
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« Reply #1591 on: September 04, 2017, 11:55:43 PM »

going from -27 to -18 is not exactly "noise"

He is probably rising a tiny bit from a combination of a solid governmental response to the houston flooding and avoiding controversy over the last few days.

The Irma storm that will hit Florida is going to be a huge story for the next few days. Will take more airtime off of russia stuff and other negatives.

He may get to like 40-55 or 41-54 but not much better than that.
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« Reply #1592 on: September 05, 2017, 12:27:12 AM »

The spread on his disapproval/approval rating has been within 2 points of -17 since the dip at the start of August. Before that, it had been within the same margin of -15 since mid-May. Trump has taken a small but solid hit, and I really doubt its ever coming back.

The hurricane news does help in the short term. It mostly gets him off the air and out of the news, and what you see is mostly him not screwing up (yet). So it's preventing further drops. But Trump is going to Trump. The only real question is how long until the next small or large drop.
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« Reply #1593 on: September 05, 2017, 08:13:37 AM »

going from -27 to -18 is not exactly "noise"

He is probably rising a tiny bit from a combination of a solid governmental response to the houston flooding and avoiding controversy over the last few days.

The Irma storm that will hit Florida is going to be a huge story for the next few days. Will take more airtime off of russia stuff and other negatives.

He may get to like 40-55 or 41-54 but not much better than that.

We'll see. Huge movement in tracking is generally noise though.
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« Reply #1594 on: September 05, 2017, 08:19:23 AM »

going from -27 to -18 is not exactly "noise"

He is probably rising a tiny bit from a combination of a solid governmental response to the houston flooding and avoiding controversy over the last few days.

The Irma storm that will hit Florida is going to be a huge story for the next few days. Will take more airtime off of russia stuff and other negatives.

He may get to like 40-55 or 41-54 but not much better than that.

We'll see. Huge movement in tracking is generally noise though.

Maybe, but I think Runeghost is essentially correct.  When Trump is the main focus of the news cycle, it's usually to his disadvantage, so when there are bigger stories that push him off the front page he tends to bounce back.  If Trump could keep his mouth shut and stay off Twitter, he'd probably be in the 50's.
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« Reply #1595 on: September 05, 2017, 12:08:09 PM »

Gallup (September 4th)

Approve 37% (-1)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)
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« Reply #1596 on: September 05, 2017, 12:41:02 PM »

Gallup (September 4th)

Approve 37% (-1)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)


He has peaked already.
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« Reply #1597 on: September 05, 2017, 12:53:17 PM »

Gallup (September 4th)

Approve 37% (-1)
Disapprove 56% (-/-)


Quite the bump from Harvey!
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« Reply #1598 on: September 05, 2017, 01:07:17 PM »


Not really, the fall of approval is by the drama of the "dreamers"
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« Reply #1599 on: September 05, 2017, 01:33:57 PM »

Cant wait to see his approvals drop to the 20's once Mueller reveals everything he and his team have discovered.
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