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« Reply #1900 on: October 06, 2017, 03:02:55 PM »


This may explain how execrably President Trump is doing in Colorado and new Mexico and why he is doing about as badly in Texas as in Iowa and Ohio. 

Is this really that bad?  The Florida number is actually higher than his 35% Hispanic vote according to exit polls in 2016.  Nationally his approval among Hispanics seems to be down less than among the electorate overall and I wouldn't assume all people that disapprove of him wont vote for him.  Some don't like him but will vote for him for ideological reasons.

At this level, a difference of 1% is statistical noise. Participation may matter more.


This looks like an outlier, but we will have some corroboration if it should prove valid.
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« Reply #1901 on: October 06, 2017, 03:18:38 PM »


More than how low that approval number is, the disapproval is what's really shocking.
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« Reply #1902 on: October 06, 2017, 03:36:28 PM »

The AP poll appears to be an outlier.

No other poll even comes close to the cross tabs

33% of republicans do not disapprove of trump

That is about a 5 standard deviation difference than other recent polls
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« Reply #1903 on: October 06, 2017, 03:38:22 PM »

The AP poll appears to be an outlier.

No other poll even comes close to the cross tabs

33% of republicans do not disapprove of trump

That is about a 5 standard deviation difference than other recent polls
Look at marty, all grown up after taking STAT 100.
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« Reply #1904 on: October 06, 2017, 03:40:49 PM »

That AP poll is an outlier.

Only 67% of Republicans approve of Trump.....yeah right.
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« Reply #1905 on: October 06, 2017, 03:41:00 PM »

The AP poll appears to be an outlier.

No other poll even comes close to the cross tabs

33% of republicans do not disapprove of trump

That is about a 5 standard deviation difference than other recent polls
Look at marty, all grown up after taking STAT 100.

Come on, Ebsy. How can you not think it's an outlier?

You seriously think in our polarized climate that 33% of republicans disapprove of trump? It's about ten points off every other poll overall, and like 20 points off on the republican voter ratings

I think gallup has it exactly right
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« Reply #1906 on: October 06, 2017, 06:43:25 PM »

It's probably an outlier, but outliers have been right before. It's worth taking into account
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« Reply #1907 on: October 06, 2017, 07:39:00 PM »

As long as the poll isn't by Breitbart, Emerson, Rasmussen, or any other lesser known or often inaccurate pollster, I'll take it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the beginning of the rest of the pollsters showing his numbers tanking. This has been a bad week for Trump.
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« Reply #1908 on: October 06, 2017, 07:40:41 PM »

It could be the start of a trend, but unless and until we see some other pollsters with similar numbers, I'm inclined to think it's an outlier.
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« Reply #1909 on: October 06, 2017, 08:20:12 PM »

It could be the start of a trend, but unless and until we see some other pollsters with similar numbers, I'm inclined to think it's an outlier.
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« Reply #1910 on: October 06, 2017, 10:45:13 PM »

The AP poll appears to be an outlier.

No other poll even comes close to the cross tabs

33% of Republicans do not disapprove of trump

That is about a 5 standard deviation difference than other recent polls

In 2016 the polls suggesting that Donald Trump was closing in on Hillary Clinton and that Democratic edges in Senate races vanishing looked like outliers. Then they proved true in the 2016 election. Just when you think that approval ratings for President Trump have recovered a little from their lowest comes a poll like this. But then comes some erratic and discreditable behavior, including the "calm before the storm" nonsense.  

Watch for more polls. They could corroborate or disavow this polling result.  
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« Reply #1911 on: October 07, 2017, 05:12:01 AM »
« Edited: October 07, 2017, 06:17:29 AM by bruhgmger2 »

It could be the start of a trend (and I hope to god it is), but unless and until we see some other pollsters with similar numbers, I'm inclined to think it's an outlier.
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« Reply #1912 on: October 07, 2017, 12:26:34 PM »

Gallup (October 6th)

Approve 39% (nc)
Disapprove 56% (-1)
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« Reply #1913 on: October 07, 2017, 01:59:33 PM »

Gallup (October 6th)

Approve 39% (nc)
Disapprove 56% (-1)
Clearly the previous survey was rubbish
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« Reply #1914 on: October 07, 2017, 02:06:48 PM »

Gallup (October 6th)

Approve 39% (nc)
Disapprove 56% (-1)
Clearly the previous survey was rubbish


Your contributions to this forum are rubbish too, yet here you are.
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« Reply #1915 on: October 07, 2017, 02:22:31 PM »

Gallup (October 6th)

Approve 39% (nc)
Disapprove 56% (-1)
Clearly the previous survey was rubbish


We'll see. While the AP poll is probably an outlier, we need to see the numbers from this week to determine that. Gallup and Rasmussen should not used to determine a trend.
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« Reply #1916 on: October 07, 2017, 02:29:09 PM »

Another possibility is that AP/NOPR is just one of those pollsters that tends to the low side for Trump.  Their previous survey in the 538 list (June 8-11) had Trump at 35/64 and was among the lowest around that time, too.
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« Reply #1917 on: October 07, 2017, 02:33:27 PM »

Another possibility is that AP/NOPR is just one of those pollsters that tends to the low side for Trump.  Their previous survey in the 538 list (June 8-11) had Trump at 35/64 and was among the lowest around that time, too.

I'm guessing perhaps the respondents in the AP polls tend to be more urban and suburban, and not enough rural/exurban?

I don't think it's out of the question that trump is unpopular among many suburban and urban republicans.
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« Reply #1918 on: October 07, 2017, 10:50:54 PM »

Gallup (October 6th)

Approve 39% (nc)
Disapprove 56% (-1)
Clearly the previous survey was rubbish


But I thought any poll showing Trump underwater was fake.
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« Reply #1919 on: October 08, 2017, 02:37:23 AM »

Another possibility is that AP/NOPR is just one of those pollsters that tends to the low side for Trump.  Their previous survey in the 538 list (June 8-11) had Trump at 35/64 and was among the lowest around that time, too.

I'm guessing perhaps the respondents in the AP polls tend to be more urban and suburban, and not enough rural/exurban?

I don't think it's out of the question that trump is unpopular among many suburban and urban republicans.

I feel a lot of these "suburban and urban republicans" are abandoning their party because of Trump. He's pushing many Republicans leftward on immigration, healthcare, and LGBT rights. See Ana Navarro, Jennifer Rubin, Rick Wilson, etc.
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« Reply #1920 on: October 08, 2017, 07:59:31 AM »

Another possibility is that AP/NOPR is just one of those pollsters that tends to the low side for Trump.  Their previous survey in the 538 list (June 8-11) had Trump at 35/64 and was among the lowest around that time, too.

I'm guessing perhaps the respondents in the AP polls tend to be more urban and suburban, and not enough rural/exurban?

I don't think it's out of the question that trump is unpopular among many suburban and urban republicans.

I feel a lot of these "suburban and urban republicans" are abandoning their party because of Trump. He's pushing many Republicans leftward on immigration, healthcare, and LGBT rights. See Ana Navarro, Jennifer Rubin, Rick Wilson, etc.

Also, see me. Before Trump, I voted Republican. Post Trump, I’m a Democrat committed to never voting Republican again for any race. The entire party went completely crazy in 2016 so much so that I’ll never again be able to trust any of them with my vote.
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« Reply #1921 on: October 08, 2017, 12:54:19 PM »

Yeah I personally went from a right leaning independent to a democrat after seeing Donald Trump and Ted Cruz being the top two contenders in the GOP primary.
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« Reply #1922 on: October 08, 2017, 01:16:41 PM »

Gallup (October 7th)

Approve 38% (-1)
Disapprove 57% (+1)
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« Reply #1923 on: October 08, 2017, 04:03:19 PM »

Ipsos

Disapprove 58.7%
Approve 35.6%
Mixed feelings 5.6%

http://polling.reuters.com/#poll/CP3_2/
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« Reply #1924 on: October 08, 2017, 04:04:22 PM »


Thereby proving that really bad poll the other day wasn't an outlier.
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