What do you think would have happened in 1992 without Perot?
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« on: May 21, 2017, 10:57:19 AM »
« edited: May 21, 2017, 11:01:06 AM by PennsyltuckyDem »

If it was just Bill Clinton and George Bush, who would have won and what would have been the percentages?  I think it would have been maybe 52-47 Clinton, something similar to what Barack Obama got in 2008.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2017, 11:22:00 AM »



Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 394 EV - 52.5%
President George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 141 EV - 46.7%

Bush would've held on to those Western states he lost, but Clinton would make up for it by flipping EV-rich states like NC and FL, leading to a more lopsided electoral map.
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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2017, 11:49:35 AM »
« Edited: May 21, 2017, 11:51:45 AM by MT Treasurer »

Clinton wins 294-244 without Perot.



Close, but not close enough for Bush to win. Closest states: LA, WI, NJ, KY, TN.
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2017, 06:08:11 PM »

The only states that definitely would have flipped to Bush are Montana, Nevada, Colorado, New Hampshire. I know GA was the closest state that year, but Perot did not do well in the South so not sure how much of an impact it would have made. I also think Clinton would have kept Ohio and New Jersey.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2017, 09:42:21 AM »

Voter turnout would have dipped under 50%, as it did in 1996 and almost did in 2000.
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« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2017, 11:40:51 PM »


284: Bill Clinton/Paul Tsongas - 47.3%
254: George Bush/Dan Quayle - 47.0%
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 12:12:51 AM »




Clinton 285 49%
Bush 253 49.1%
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 12:17:48 AM »

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 06:50:24 PM »

Perot was essentially a big voice as a critic of George H. W. Bush, and being an independent made the criticisms seem far less partisan.
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« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2017, 04:25:59 PM »

Bush Sr had a 39% approval rating, he was dead on arrival in 1992 with or without Perot.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2017, 06:07:10 PM »

Bush Sr had a 39% approval rating, he was dead on arrival in 1992 with or without Perot.

Truman had a 39% approval rating and he was reelected in 1948.
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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2017, 01:15:53 PM »

Clinton wins by 13 points, 474-64.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2017, 04:25:20 AM »

Poppy Bush was too unpoluar in 1992 to win a head-to-head contest. The econmy was simply not good enough and he was seen as too out of touch.



Governor William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Albert Arnold Gore (D-TN): 324 EV. (51.33%)
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 214 EV. (45.36%)
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2017, 11:49:21 AM »

 
. 55-42.
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2017, 04:06:31 PM »

Poppy Bush was too unpoluar in 1992 to win a head-to-head contest. The econmy was simply not good enough and he was seen as too out of touch.



Governor William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Albert Arnold Gore (D-TN): 324 EV. (51.33%)
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 214 EV. (45.36%)
                                                                                                                                                                                         
I will never understand people who think Bush could have won WI, a Dukakis state, in 1992. Never.
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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2017, 08:28:05 AM »

Clinton still wins big
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« Reply #16 on: June 23, 2017, 11:04:40 PM »

Poppy Bush was too unpoluar in 1992 to win a head-to-head contest. The econmy was simply not good enough and he was seen as too out of touch.



Governor William J. Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Albert Arnold Gore (D-TN): 324 EV. (51.33%)
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President J. Danforth Quayle (R-IN): 214 EV. (45.36%)
                                                                                                                                                                                         
I will never understand people who think Bush could have won WI, a Dukakis state, in 1992. Never.

The Upper Midwest trended pretty R in 1992, after hitting rock-bottom there due to the farm crisis. Persuading 20% of Perot voters to switch to Bush in Wisconsin does not seem like such an unreasonable assumption, especially when you go through the county-by-county swing numbers.
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2017, 08:29:43 PM »

Clinton still would've won.
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2017, 12:37:17 PM »



Clinton/Gore (D) 289 EV
Bush/Quayle (R) 249 EV

I'd give the popular vote something like 50-49 or 51-48 to Clinton. 
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2017, 02:31:23 PM »

Clinton would have won a solid majority of the popular vote and probably about the same electoral map.
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