Joe Manchin (D-WV) vs. Charlie Baker (R-MA)

[DPKdebator]

What would a hypothetical presidential election between conservative Democrat Joe Manchin and moderate Republican Charlie Baker look like?

If Baker won, it would probably be this:

364 - 174

If Manchin won, it would probably be this:

364 - 174

[Kingpoleon]

272: Charlie Baker/Condoleeza Rice - 45.2%
266: Joe Manchin/John Bel Edwards - 44.6%
Katrina Pierson/Austin Petersen - 4.5%
David Cobb/Thom Hartmann - 4.3%
Others - 1.2%

[SingingAnalyst]

Interesting, and of course utterly unthinkable in today's political economy. Perhaps a more interesting question is, what ONE thing could be changed since, say, 1920, to bring about a world in 2016 or 2020 where these would be viable candidates? Coolidge/Hoover do more for civil rights? Eisenhower spares the lives of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Stevenson wins in 1952 and the Rosenbergs are executed anyway? Mainstream GOP embraces Roe v. Wade? Teddy Kennedy remains pro-life, as he was until 1972? Ditto for the Rev. Jesse Jackson? The possibilities are endless.

[Kingpoleon]

Interesting, and of course utterly unthinkable in today's political economy. Perhaps a more interesting question is, what ONE thing could be changed since, say, 1920, to bring about a world in 2016 or 2020 where these would be viable candidates? Coolidge/Hoover do more for civil rights? Eisenhower spares the lives of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg? Stevenson wins in 1952 and the Rosenbergs are executed anyway? Mainstream GOP embraces Roe v. Wade? Teddy Kennedy remains pro-life, as he was until 1972? Ditto for the Rev. Jesse Jackson? The possibilities are endless.

I suggest the most likely is Ford/Brooke defeats McCarthy/Symington. In 1980, Gov. Sam Yorty/Sen. Howell Heflin defeats VP Brooke/Speaker Millicent Fenwick. From there, the reversal of OTL accelerates as Democrats become right-populists and Republicans become left-libertarians.

[Lord Admirale]

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Governor Steve Bullock (D-MT) - 325 EV ✓
Governor Charlie Baker (R-MA)/Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 213 EV
 

[Spark]

[Politician]

[bagelman]

516-22 Baker

[Figueira]

Baker wins, maybe he does slightly better than average in New England but other than that it's a pretty boring election.

[MR DARK BRANDON]

[Medal506]

Baker makes John Kasich look like Ted Cruz, that's how much of a fake Republican Baker is!

Manchin wins the popular vote with over 60%

[aaroncd107]

Baker Manchin makes John Kasich Joe Biden look like Ted Cruz Bernie Sanders, that's how much of a fake Republican Democrat Baker Manchin is!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Baker would win, ironically I think both would lose their home states though.

[darklordoftech]

Is this using Atlas colors or non-Atlas colors?