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« on: May 23, 2017, 10:58:03 AM »

The Sassanids? The latter day Ottomans? Tokugawa shogunate? Rome under Diocletian?
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2017, 03:31:49 PM »

ISIS, perhaps?
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2017, 05:14:23 PM »

North Korea. Some Islamic states. Parts of France during the Revolution.
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2017, 06:17:29 PM »

Albania under Hoxha.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 12:23:52 PM »

Name a communist country. Any of them.
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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 12:42:44 PM »

Name a communist country. Any of them.

There was a very big difference between a Communist country where Christianity was allowed but subject to monitoring and restrictions (Poland, the GDR), one where only state churches are officially allowed and non-state/unofficial churches are officially banned but generally tolerated as long as they don't threaten the government directly (the contemporary PRC), and one where churches and religious rituals are banned altogether and taking part in them can lead to lengthy imprisonment or death (Hoxha's Albania, the DPRK)
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 05:02:29 PM »
« Edited: May 24, 2017, 05:08:48 PM by Filuwaúrdjan »

Before the modern period the clear leader is the Sassanid Empire with a special mention to the Tokugawa Shogunate. Not to say that these were the only regimes to persecute Christianity heavily (not that periodic Roman persecution wasn't very bad, but it's significance comes from the fact that it happened at a formative stage, rather than that it was unusually bad. At it's worst it was really awful, but they were pussy cats in comparison to the Sassanids at their most tolerant...), but that they did so with unusual intensity and (frankly) sadism. As we move into modernity... while, the status of Revolutionary France in this is complex for various reasons, we cant really ignore that what happened in the Vendée was probably the first modern genocide and that there was an overt anti-Christian motivation for this.

Now, the twentieth century being the twentieth century, suddenly you have a very long list and oh my God are the death tolls appalling. The Communist states are the first places to examine; all of those mentioned in the thread so far are 'good' candidates but I'm surprised that the most obvious candidate of all - the Soviet Union - has not been mentioned given that the number murdered for their beliefs was clearly in the millions (that this isn't well known largely reflects, I'm sorry to say, traditional Western distaste for Orthodoxy). The second place to look is also quite obvious and, yeah, the Ottoman Empire in its death throes is hard to ignore. You'd think the same would also be true of its successor state, but traditional Western sucking up to Kemalism (and I suppose also, again, that distaste for Orthodoxy) means that people ignore certain grotesque crimes that they would not in a different context. The deliberate elimination of Christianity in the first places where it had a serious foothold cannot be ignored; you read your Bibles, so many of the churches mentioned were in Asia Minor. Moving into the twenty first century, well, the only question is whether ISIS counts as a regime or not...
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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2017, 06:00:29 PM »

traditional Western distaste for Orthodoxy)

I've naught heard of this before. How "traditional", exactly, is it?
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« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2017, 06:38:53 PM »

Russian separatists/terrorists are currently targeting and murdering Christian minorities in Donbass as a method of political power.
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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2017, 07:19:45 PM »

Russian separatists/terrorists are currently targeting and murdering Christian minorities in Donbass as a method of political power.

But that's a conflict between (presumably) two Christian groups
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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2017, 11:38:35 PM »

The Cristero War: Mexico under Plutarco Elías Calles. Anti-Catholic (and anti-Christian in general) sentiment was rampant in much of Mexico at that time.
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« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2017, 07:54:14 AM »

Rome until about 300, communist bloc and external communist regimes, NK, Asian nations, especially pre-1800s Japan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Japan#Persecution_under_the_Shogunate (watch Scorcese's Silence)
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« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2017, 05:08:48 PM »

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« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2017, 08:33:36 PM »

Isis, USSR, China, North Korea, Saudi Arabia, Any USSR satellites
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