Should Georgia and Ukraine be allowed to join NATO?

[TDAS04]

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[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

no, because that would almost certainly be inviting war.

[Santander]

Not as long as our relationship with Russia is the way it is.

[dead0man]

Yes, screw Russia.

[Dereich]

If the other alliance members would agree that they would actually support an Article 5 collective action if either Georgia and Ukraine were attacked I'd say yes, but right now I doubt you could get NATO members to agree to that. So no, for now.

[nicholas.slaydon]

Yes, we should do everything in our power to stop Russian aggression into Eastern Europe.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Get rid of NATO (sane).

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Get rid of NATO (sane).

[Mr. Reactionary]

Probably not, especially with the ongoing border disputes. If Ukraine were to be admitted and Russia took no effort to withdraw from Crimea, would that then constitute war against a NATO power, evem though the initial dispute started before Ukraine's ascension?

[ApatheticAustrian]

Yes, we should do everything in our power to stop Russian aggression into Eastern Europe.

[Middle-aged Europe]

No.

[Beet]

No, but more economic and defense assistance should be provided to Ukraine.

[DavidB.]

Georgia only.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If the other alliance members would agree that they would actually support an Article 5 collective action if either Georgia and Ukraine were attacked I'd say yes, but right now I doubt you could get NATO members to agree to that. So no, for now.

This is obviously the correct answer.

[Cashew]

Get rid of NATO (sane).

[TheSaint250]

I definitely think Ukraine should.  Georgia, maybe.

[Green Line]

Eventually yes.  Not right now.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Yes. All liberal, all the time.

[DavidB.]

I definitely think Ukraine should.  Georgia, maybe.

I think the case for Georgia is much clearer than the case for Ukraine. Georgia hasn't seen war for almost a decade and merely needs to be protected against new Russian acts of hostility. The country also became much less corrupt under Saakashvili and is slowly but surely becoming a successful democracy under the Georgian Dream government. Ukraine, on the other hand, is currently in conflict with Russia, which is a much bigger risk for NATO. The political situation remains relatively unstable and corruption is entrenched.

[mvd10]

I definitely think Ukraine should.  Georgia, maybe.

I think the case for Georgia is much clearer than the case for Ukraine. Georgia hasn't seen war for almost a decade and merely needs to be protected against new Russian acts of hostility. The country has also become much less corrupt under Saakashvili and is slowly but surely becoming a successful democracy under the Georgian Dream government. Ukraine, on the other hand, is currently in conflict with Russia, which is a much bigger risk for NATO. The political situation remains relatively unstable and corruption is entrenched.

Must've been his wife. We're making the whole world great again!

Yes to both btw.

[Cory]

Yes in theory, but only if we interpret Article 5 in a way that doesn't obligate us to go to war with Russia to "maintain national sovereignty" in areas of those nations that Russia/Russian aligned actors currently occupy.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

No, we can't let members join that would either be a massive liability or would make people ignore Article 5. Moldavia and Azerbaijan are also problematic.

[Del Tachi]

Yes.  Meet the Russians head on.

[Rookie Yinzer]

Yes, screw Russia.