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Question: President Wilson:
#1[American] did the right thing by going to war  
#2[American] did the wrong thing by going to war  
#3[non American] did the right thing by going to war  
#4[non American] did the wrong thing by going to war  
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KillerPollo
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« on: August 09, 2005, 10:29:00 am »
« edited: August 09, 2005, 10:33:35 am by Mexican StatesRights™ (AKA: KillerPollo) »

wrong thing. No good guys or bad guys in that war, just two sets of opposing powers. Didn't involve the US at all.
^^^

The treaty of versailles engineered by the Americans was the tool of ANGER and HATE that fueled Hitler's ideology of a great Germany. This treaty angered a lot of germans as much as the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo INFURIATES me! Proportionally, over the years, From the German Empite in 1878 until Germany today, it has lost about the same percentage of Territory that Mexico lost to the US.

Germany, I feel your pain! Too bad we dont have the power to take back our territory by force like the Germans did in WWII
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KillerPollo
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2005, 08:27:42 am »

wrong thing. No good guys or bad guys in that war, just two sets of opposing powers. Didn't involve the US at all.
^^^

The treaty of versailles engineered by the Americans was the tool of ANGER and HATE that fueled Hitler's ideology of a great Germany. This treaty angered a lot of germans as much as the treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo INFURIATES me! Proportionally, over the years, From the German Empite in 1878 until Germany today, it has lost about the same percentage of Territory that Mexico lost to the US.

Germany, I feel your pain! Too bad we dont have the power to take back our territory by force like the Germans did in WWII

You realize that the US held Mexico by the balls in 1848, and probably could have taken much more territory (in theory, the US could have conquered Mexico outright; they did make it to Mexico City, after all).
World War I, on the other hand, ended with the Germans still occupying Belgian and French soil.

That is not the point i was trying to make!
The point was the anger and hatred instilled unto hitler because of the magnitude of the humiliation.

I too feel infuriated at the United States for what it did to my beloved home and native land. But i at least leave that behind, unlike Hitler.

Just imagine if they would have done some Versailles-like treaties after WWII! There would have been another Hitler by now.
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KillerPollo
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2005, 08:39:16 am »

Did the right thing.

From Australia's perspective, it's a bit more clear cut. We were also on the other side of the world, but we were still very much British then, and England was still reffered by many to be 'home'. We were one of the first nations to declare war, and we sent more troops per capita then any other allied nation-without conscription-to a war that didn't directly affect us. It might seem stupid in a modern context, but the empire came first back then. As a reward, Australia had a 'baptism of fire' so to speak, both on the western front and in the middle east (most notably gallipoli), and we proved ourselves as a nation.

I find the Australian contribution at Versailles rather amusing. Our PM, Billy Hughes, was Welsh, as was the British PM (Lord George). They shouted at eachother in welsh about nobody knows what, because no-one else in the entire palace spoke welsh. Also, he was one of the major opponents of Wilson's internationalism ideas and was probably, after the french, the person who wanted to punish the 'bloody krauts' the most. As a reward, Australia got a colonial empire...Papua Cheesy

as to the poll question; yes, the US should have been involved. Earlier.

Nice post
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