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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2017, 01:52:00 PM »

I can't wait to see how Thomas Jackson and EnglishPete spin this.
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2017, 01:52:36 PM »

By the way, for those of those harping on obstruction, solely using these opening remarks, there is no obstruvtion.

FBI investigations are not considered procedures under 18USC 1505.

I know you wish it was that simple, but it isn't.

Trump may or may not have engaged in obstruction of justice under normal judicial standards, but that’s irrelevant — the only thing that matters is whether Congress decides he did so under whatever standards they believe are appropriate.


Anticipatory obstruction is also a thing.

(Thank you for that excellent lawfare link, btw.)
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2017, 01:57:26 PM »

Trumpers: No. This is not good news and today wasn't good news for you either. Deal with it. Grasp reality by the horns and get with it. A President with this kind of testimony by the ex-FBI Director and the DNI/CIA chiefs issuing a non-denial on if he asked THEM to drop the investigation is NOT the successful presidency you imagined six months in.

Please grasp reality or at least, stop making it easy to mock you.

*Sanchez and Grumps (mostly) are exempted from this. I like them. So I have biases. Sue me.
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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2017, 02:00:37 PM »

So much for all those "HA!  Anonymous Source on WaPo??!?!  Give me a break, FAKE NEWZ!!"  posts.....
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2017, 02:01:48 PM »

I can't wait to see how Thomas Jackson and EnglishPete spin this.

EnglishPete has often tended to just invent conspiracy theories if something is completely undeniable. TJ is a krazen-type troll who will just spin it in a way that suggests they don't care, or will latch onto any justification, no matter how weak, to back themselves up.
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2017, 02:03:52 PM »

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This seems to be an important sub-note on Comey telling Trump he wasn't personally being investigated.
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2017, 02:08:07 PM »

FOX "News" headline on this:

Ex-FBI boss to testify he assured Trump he was not personally under investigation; was pressed for 'loyalty'

The White House propaganda outlet is hard at work on spinning this one.

Note that it is a subtitle to the main headline: "Comey Clears the Air"
Or heir, or whatever.
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2017, 02:10:19 PM »

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This seems to be an important sub-note on Comey telling Trump he wasn't personally being investigated.

I'm getting flashbacks to 2016. Looks like he knew he screwed up with Clinton investigation and didn't want to make the same mistake again.
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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2017, 02:14:39 PM »

There is going to be a movie about this some day.
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2017, 02:17:17 PM »

There is going to be a movie about this some day.

It's gonna be so weird to watch it
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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2017, 02:18:54 PM »

There is going to be a movie about this some day.

Who'll play Trump?
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2017, 02:21:45 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.
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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2017, 02:21:55 PM »

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This seems to be an important sub-note on Comey telling Trump he wasn't personally being investigated.

I'm getting flashbacks to 2016. Looks like he knew he screwed up with Clinton investigation and didn't want to make the same mistake again.
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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2017, 02:24:14 PM »


Trumpgate: The Movie
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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2017, 02:26:45 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.

I don't think there has been much evidence of this to begin with, the dangerous parts for the President have involved his handling of the Flynn case.
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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2017, 02:27:51 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.

I don't think there has been much evidence of this to begin with, the dangerous parts for the President have involved his handling of the Flynn case.

This.

However, the wider Russian probe, however, remains troubling, in that the President won't reveal areas that would clear him. Such as his tax returns and his cabinet and aides did not report all the meetings with the Russian ambassador and other Russian operatives.

The President really just needs to lay it out there if he wants to kill this cloud. This is why I think there's more to the smoke here.
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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2017, 02:30:25 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.

This neglects the fact that Trump fired Comey subsequent to these meetings to end the wider Russia probe.
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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2017, 02:31:40 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.

This neglects the fact that Trump fired Comey subsequent to these meetings to end the wider Russia probe.

The wider probe was going to end with Comey's firing?  That's news to everyone, even the Donald.
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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2017, 02:35:29 PM »

This confirms nothing. He stopped short of calling it obstruction of justice. The prosecution can move forward but how can they make a case when the literal investigators can't pin an actual crime. This was a good day for Trump judging by what I've read.

Seriously, I heard a long excerpt read on MSNBC and even they say this supports the Presidents claim that he did not try to end the wider Russia probe.

This neglects the fact that Trump fired Comey subsequent to these meetings to end the wider Russia probe.
He fired Comey for a variety of stated reasons. You're projecting your hopes into reality. You can't change reality. The reality is, nothing connects Comey's firings to these conversations.
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2017, 02:37:33 PM »

It's also worth noting that Trump threatened Comey with some sort of tape. He's either making a perfect bluff (which I'm sure he's skilled at) or he does have tapes, and if those tapes are in his possession, he wouldn't publicize them if they contained anything incriminating. That ought to be the focus of Mueller going forward IMO if I were him and assuming he's actually serious about ending this McCarthyite witch hunt probe.
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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2017, 02:54:44 PM »

There is going to be a movie about this some day.

Michael Cera IS Donald Trump IN Oliver Stone's Trumped: The Untold Story of the Pee Pee Tape
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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2017, 02:58:58 PM »

what time is comey's intestines tomorrow?

I assume you meant testimony, and if so that's one of the funniest autocorrects I've ever seen.
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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2017, 03:00:49 PM »

From Comey's friend and Brookings fellow Benjamin Wittes:

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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2017, 03:14:30 PM »

what time is comey's intestines tomorrow?

Comey as the committee spills open his intestines:

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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2017, 03:22:19 PM »

Wow.
Obstruction of justice IMO.
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