UK General Election, 2017 - Election Day and Results Thread

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Sporting Index markets has around

CON         361.5
CON         206.5
LIB            12
SNP           46
PC               3.5
Greens        1
UKIP            0.5

I'd hate to be one of the 0.5 of a politician!  Do they chop off vertically or horizontally?

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What is the TV situation for watching this in America?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y60wDzZt8yg

That's not available in Canada, but it can be viewed on BBC News Channel twitter feed.  Anybody know where to get a free stream of today's U.S men's national soccer team game?

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If this exit poll is correct, where would Labour gain these seats mostly from? Scotland? Additional seats in London?

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With the Tories as they are, they could govern on a vote-by-vote basis...

They don't need quite 326 if Sinn Fein doesn't take its seats in Parliament.

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If this exit poll is correct, where would Labour gain these seats mostly from? Scotland? Additional seats in London?

Most in the South and London, yes.

Thanks!

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I'd like to be up on the stage with all the candidates, get 0 votes and jump up and down like I had won.

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I'd like to be up on the stage with all the candidates, get 0 votes and jump up and down like I had won.

One council candidate got 0 votes, but the record for a GE is only 1 vote in 200 (Cardiff North)

Thanks for the information

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Any party leaders who might lose their riding? (Of those who hold their ridings at present.)

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Is there a sense of whether or not there's going to be a rush of results at any point in time? Or are they going to trickle in?

Thanks for the answers to my question!

The results usually start to rush in an hour or two after the first results come in.  Then the stragglers come in slowly hours later.

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I think we can junk the exiit poll then...

All the results so far are from the same region.  Swings could be completely different elsewhere.

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Any chance of a Grand Coalition like in Germany?

I think I asked this same question in 2015 when the exit polls showed a minority government with the large loss of seats for the Liberal Democrats.

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1.Unfortunate Alex Salmond lost.  Whatever you may think of Scottish independence, whenever I've seen him interviewed, it's clear he is a brilliant person and a capable economist.

2.From BBC, it sounds like the Conservatives are trying to pin the blame on Lynton Crosby, just as the Canadian Conservatives did.  I don't know if he's really to blame, but it seems conservatives are really slow to learn that you can't just take mindless negative cookie cutter slogans and apply them indiscriminately to every English speaking country.

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Feel free to ignore if this has already been discussed, but what has the relationship historically been between the Tories and DUP? Is a coalition all but inevitable, or will there be a good deal of wrangling between the two?

I don't know about the long ago history of the two parties, but in the late days of the John Major government from 1992-1997, the Conservatives fell to a minority situation and had to depend on the DUP for support (or maybe it was the UUP.)  Whichever it was, the Conservatives did not want to be closely associated with either party. However, this was before the Irish agreements. So, maybe the DUP is nowhere near as toxic as it was back then, especially now that the vile Ian Paisley is no longer leader.

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This election is kind of disgusting:

"We have a well hung parliament and we wait to see who can erect a majority government."

British people should be ashamed of themselves!

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How in the hell is corbyn winning these upper income areas in outer london?

Looks like upper income suburbs are doing in the UK what they did in the US- trend to the left.

The difference of course is that hillary was a "moderate" democrat with much safer, less radical economic views than corbyn.

Corbyn winning some of these upper income districts is something I simply cannot explain.

Literally everything I thought I knew about suburbs was destroyed tonight. I truly thought corbyn was going to get crushed in them, because they seemingly disagree with him on nearly every issue.

Yet here we are.

Why in the HELL are rich english voters voting for this man? How does it even make sense? What did May do?

This is part of the vagaries of the FPTP system.  It's possible a lot of these people were voting for Labour as a protest against the Conservatives and BREXIT believing that Labour and Corbyn had no chance of actually getting into power. 

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One good things about this election we wont have a hard brexit,
As a Leave voter, Hard brexit would've been catastrophic    
I hope we adopt the Norwegian model

Let hope Tory Moderates of the likes of Anna Soubry have decent influence

I saw Anna Soubry interviewed yesterday.  Both she and Ruth Davidson are very impressive.

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UKIP voters screwed the Tories tonight and for they are big fools as they voted for a far right candidate in 2015 and then far left in 2017.


If UKIP voted torie we would have had the tories up to 350 seats maybe instead of 319 .

Do you realize that many of the UKIP voters were actually working-class folks that felt abandoned by both political parties?

Unfortunately in the US, as opposed to the UK, there was no reason to come back home in '16 vs UK in '17.....

Both political parties in the US have sold working folks under the bus for decades.... in the UK there is still a fighting spirit left in working-class communities, and you actually had a "Left" or "Progressive" Labour Dem who wasn't afraid to speak truth to power to someone like Clinton (Vs Bernie) who talked the language and themes of the minority of upper income voters, while neglecting the reality of the rest of us 75% of Americans....

Anyways.... here's one of my favorite Scottish Folk songs from the 1950s...

Damnit, love me, I'm a liberal.

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This doesn't really fit the discussion.  But, I notice some commentators prior to the election were asking questions like "Are young people really supporting Jeremy Corbyn who is a genuine socialist?  Didn't they learn about the failures of nationalized businesses?"

I don't disagree with any of that.  But, many of these same commentators still mindlessly promote the false idea that tax or regulatory cuts are automatically good for economic growth.

I can only put this down to the power that the neoliberal liars had throughout the 1990s in promoting this false ideology, especially Rupert Murdoch.  I would have liked to have thought that the Financial Collapse of 2007 would have completely discredited this, but, as Forest Gump said "stupid is as stupid does."

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The fact that Scotland is part of the problem doesn't make it less of a problem.

But yeah, the results out of England are somewhat promising. Does anyone have the vote totals by regions?

I was hoping to find this on a British site because I'm boycotting CNN for firing Kathy Griffin but not firing Jeffrey Lord et al, but CNN is the only place (or the first place) I found this:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/08/europe/uk-election-2017-full-results/index.html

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This is CNNs breakdown (I don't know if everybody would agree with how they broke down England into regions)

Southwest
Conservative: 51.4%
Labour: 29.1%
Liberal Democrats: 15.0%

Southeast
Conservative: 53.8%
Labour: 28.6
Liberal Democrats: 10.5%

London (1 riding outstanding)
Labour: 54.6%
Conservative: 33.0%
Liberal Democrats: 8.8%

Eastern
Conservative: 54.6%
Labour: 32.7%
Liberal Democrats: 7.9%

East Midlands
Conservative 50.7%
Labour: 40.5%
Liberal Democrats: 4.3%

West Midlands
Conservative: 49.0%
Labour: 42.5%
Liberal Democrats: 4.4%

North West
Labour: 54.9%
Conservative: 36.2%
Liberal Democrats: 5.4%

Yorkshire and the H.  (H...?)
Labour: 49.0%
Conservative: 40.5%
Liberal Democrats: 5.0%

North East
Labour: 55.5%
Conservative: 34.6%
Liberal Democrats: 4.6%

(CNN also gave the vote percentages for the smaller parties, but did not give the seat totals)

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I'm just wondering back to the beginning of the campaign if anybody made an issue regarding the inherent contradiction in Theresa May's argument on the need for the election, to provide "strong and stable leadership."

Theresa May already led a government with a majority.  That she couldn't command her own party to provide a stable government was an implicit admission of weakness, not strength.

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This is CNNs breakdown (I don't know if everybody would agree with how they broke down England into regions)

Southwest
Conservative: 51.4%
Labour: 29.1%
Liberal Democrats: 15.0%

Southeast
Conservative: 53.8%
Labour: 28.6
Liberal Democrats: 10.5%

London (1 riding outstanding)
Labour: 54.6%
Conservative: 33.0%
Liberal Democrats: 8.8%

Eastern
Conservative: 54.6%
Labour: 32.7%
Liberal Democrats: 7.9%

East Midlands
Conservative 50.7%
Labour: 40.5%
Liberal Democrats: 4.3%

West Midlands
Conservative: 49.0%
Labour: 42.5%
Liberal Democrats: 4.4%

North West
Labour: 54.9%
Conservative: 36.2%
Liberal Democrats: 5.4%

Yorkshire and the H.  (H...?)
Labour: 49.0%
Conservative: 40.5%
Liberal Democrats: 5.0%

North East
Labour: 55.5%
Conservative: 34.6%
Liberal Democrats: 4.6%

(CNN also gave the vote percentages for the smaller parties, but did not give the seat totals)

The English regions used are the constituencies into which the country is divided for multi member European Parliament elections. They were weak local administrative units in the Blair-Brown era, which Cameron's government abolished.

H stands for Humber, which is the area to the south of the river Humber, which was the north of the historic county of Lincolnshire.

Thanks!  Humberside! The Smiths mentioned a lot of regions and cities in their song "Panic"  (Hang the DJ!)

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Theresa May already led a government with a majority.  That she couldn't command her own party to provide a stable government was an implicit admission of weakness, not strength.

It was a government without a working majority though - less than 20.

That's my point though. If she was really a strong leader she should have been able to control it like a solid majority.

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The Democratic Unionist Party are the Christian Taliban largest political party in Northern Ireland, which is enough to make any sane human being sh**t their pants.

The party was founded in 1971 by Ian Paisley and is now lead by Arlene Foster.
They are violent, sectarian extremist fundamentalist creationist homophobes with a long history of crossing from terrorism to police to military to politics and back again, and they're just as responsible for supporting paramilitaries as Sinn Féin are. The DUP is an anchor around the neck of the Tory government, but the Tories need them on their side to guarantee a strong position in NI, and after the 2017 election to form a government at all.

That they're full of creationists is the least worst thing about them.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Democratic_Unionist_Party


Theresa May warned against having a government led by a terrorist sympathizer.  It turned out though, she was was referring to herself.

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